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Uh... that's a horrible Idea and will only weaken the 7990 brand name. I hope this is fake. If they are going to make a 7990 then they too should add a fancy bling bling cooler to it and make it run 2 7970s
The Ares 2, Devil and PowerColor 7990 are doing a great job holding the touch for AMDs absent 7990.
The Ares 2, Devil and PowerColor 7990 are doing a great job holding the touch for AMDs absent 7990.
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Yeah, I know, what a shockerOriginally Posted by supergamer
What a nice day they chose to leak this news.![tongue.gif]()
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Well if they can outdo an AresII ....why the hell not?
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2 slot>3 slot.
Probably hotter and noisier, but slimmer, sleeker, lighter, and more appealing than a couple kg behemoth. plus AMD's reference cooler beats the crap out of the Devil13 in looks.
I'm sorry, not catching here.Originally Posted by th3illusiveman
Uh... that's a horrible Idea and will only weaken the 7990 brand name. I hope this is fake. If they are going to make a 7990 then they too should add a fancy bling bling cooler to it and make it run 2 7970s
The Ares 2, Devil and PowerColor 7990 are doing a great job holding the touch for AMDs absent 7990.
2 slot>3 slot.
Probably hotter and noisier, but slimmer, sleeker, lighter, and more appealing than a couple kg behemoth. plus AMD's reference cooler beats the crap out of the Devil13 in looks.
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Fast was about it's only saving grace and even then it was challenged heavily by the GTX590 which was a better card in every other way (Except the VRMs - those sucked) 590 with better Vrms would have been a mighty beast!
The 6990 was a mess.Originally Posted by Artikbot
I'm sorry, not catching here.
2 slot>3 slot.
Probably hotter and noisier, but slimmer, sleeker, lighter, and more appealing than a couple kg behemoth. plus AMD's reference cooler beats the crap out of the Devil13 in looks.
Fast was about it's only saving grace and even then it was challenged heavily by the GTX590 which was a better card in every other way (Except the VRMs - those sucked) 590 with better Vrms would have been a mighty beast!
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that's what made the 6990 a really nice card
maybe so but a 590 could not do 3 way sli with a gtx 580Originally Posted by th3illusiveman
The 6990 was a mess.
Fast was about it's only saving grace and even then it was challenged heavily by the GTX590 which was a better card in every other way (Except the VRMs - those sucked) 590 with better Vrms would have been a mighty beast!
that's what made the 6990 a really nice card
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We need an accessible aggressively clocked R7990 that is eyefinity 5 capable. ARESII is but that's it and they are stupid expensive and hard to find and come with that stupid water cooling solution. Powercolor R7990 is a powerhouse but not capable of eyefinity. I want a two slot reference design with an EK block.
And seriously if they release this, GTX Titan can suck it. Will be far cheaper.
No they aren't.Originally Posted by th3illusiveman
Uh... that's a horrible Idea and will only weaken the 7990 brand name. I hope this is fake. If they are going to make a 7990 then they too should add a fancy bling bling cooler to it and make it run 2 7970s
The Ares 2, Devil and PowerColor 7990 are doing a great job holding the touch for AMDs absent 7990.
We need an accessible aggressively clocked R7990 that is eyefinity 5 capable. ARESII is but that's it and they are stupid expensive and hard to find and come with that stupid water cooling solution. Powercolor R7990 is a powerhouse but not capable of eyefinity. I want a two slot reference design with an EK block.
And seriously if they release this, GTX Titan can suck it. Will be far cheaper.
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*cough* 8800 series.
*cough* 9800 series.
*cough* GTX2 series.
*cough* GTX4 series.
Need I to continue? nVIDIA's coolers only work since the GTX5 series half decently, and only with the GTX6 series they got their stuff sorted out.
AMD's coolers have been fine since the HD4890 (hell was it noisy). That their double slot dual GPU coolers are noisy is to be expected.
They're switching from single central turbine to triple push fan, that will cut in noise for sure.
HD6990 was noisy and hot, but ran up to expectations and didn't miserably burn itself when overclocked.Originally Posted by Seid Dark
Interesting. I guess this will use binned chips, just like GTX 690. 6990 was horribly noisy and hot, let's hope that AMD finally starts to make decent coolers. All AMD reference coolers pretty much suck.
*cough* 8800 series.
*cough* 9800 series.
*cough* GTX2 series.
*cough* GTX4 series.
Need I to continue? nVIDIA's coolers only work since the GTX5 series half decently, and only with the GTX6 series they got their stuff sorted out.
AMD's coolers have been fine since the HD4890 (hell was it noisy). That their double slot dual GPU coolers are noisy is to be expected.
They're switching from single central turbine to triple push fan, that will cut in noise for sure.
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Every cooler has a targeted TDP value it is designed to handle, plus there's a size limitation for power hungry card, as you do have a limited amount of space to deal with.
So by your logic, when we see 680 running below 70 consuming 195W it is solely because it has a superior cooler to say a 580 with it's 243W TDP, that actually went over 300W when overclocked and overvolted?Originally Posted by Artikbot
HD6990 was noisy and hot, but ran up to expectations and didn't miserably burn itself when overclocked.
*cough* 8800 series.
*cough* 9800 series.
*cough* GTX2 series.
*cough* GTX4 series.
Need I to continue? nVIDIA's coolers only work since the GTX5 series half decently, and only with the GTX6 series they got their stuff sorted out.
AMD's coolers have been fine since the HD4890 (hell was it noisy). That their double slot dual GPU coolers are noisy is to be expected.
They're switching from single central turbine to triple push fan, that will cut in noise for sure.
Every cooler has a targeted TDP value it is designed to handle, plus there's a size limitation for power hungry card, as you do have a limited amount of space to deal with.
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To AMD, the Titan is smoke and mirrors, a PR stunt. AMD only had to address Titan and rumors as of late as there were false negative rumors stirring about AMD in the press and online and Titan was coming out at the same time. The timing made it look bad for AMD, like they had no new cards, had delays and problems, and had no answer to the Titan. Letting such a perfect storm of rumors run wild would be very bad for them, so they addressed it. But like much of what was reported in their teleconference has come true. Titan isn't that much of a threat, and has no real market. AMD has picked its markets and is winning on price/performance along its entire line. They have no interest in this niche market the Titan is aimed at, and feel there is enough in the market to combat it anyway. As I said, you can get similar performance for far cheaper. And very few workloads make use of Titans muscle. And few users have a need to run such workloads. Titan is said to be best for SLI. But you need such an overpriced uber rig to not bottleneck (Ivy-E). This limits its market further. I feel like a broken record.
Edit> As for being future proofed... by the time these things are put to use (software catching up) there will likely be better offerings in the channel with newer archs on smaller nodes using less power, being quieter, etc. In the short and long terms, these are bad price/performance and good for niche markets and those who want/need it regardless of how overpriced it is...
AMD has nothing to fear from Titan as its not competing with AMD or affecting any of AMD's market right now...
This ref 7990 interests me though. Based on Tahiti XT? Interesting. I wonder how this will affect OC vs the "7990"s that are out now from third party vendors. Anything new is nice. I don't like the timing though... Since the Titan is underwhelming, they should have leaked it a lil later, adding insult to injury rather than making it look like an answer to the launch...
Obviously what I say is my opinion only, not trying to say its truth for all people/circumstances/workloads...
It's hard to have a hard stance on a topic and be opinionated, while still trying to come off as unbiased an unoffensive... Hence me always rambling and ranting and over-explaining myself and having to state its an opinion.
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Titan has such a miniscule market to sell in that AMD doesn't care. Selling FirePro cards as Radeons would cost them money, and do little for most consumers. It's just bragging rights and very niche workload that will benefit realistically from such a setup. It doesn't blow away any of the competing single GPU's enough to make the price make sense, and Xfire and SLI are cheaper while performing similar to better. Titan SLI will require an extremely expensive rig just to not bottleneck thus further shrinking its target market.Originally Posted by MoGTy
AMD better come up with their own Titan quickly. I think they have such a GPU (as seen with FirePro), but are unwilling to release (maybe Titan will change that).
To AMD, the Titan is smoke and mirrors, a PR stunt. AMD only had to address Titan and rumors as of late as there were false negative rumors stirring about AMD in the press and online and Titan was coming out at the same time. The timing made it look bad for AMD, like they had no new cards, had delays and problems, and had no answer to the Titan. Letting such a perfect storm of rumors run wild would be very bad for them, so they addressed it. But like much of what was reported in their teleconference has come true. Titan isn't that much of a threat, and has no real market. AMD has picked its markets and is winning on price/performance along its entire line. They have no interest in this niche market the Titan is aimed at, and feel there is enough in the market to combat it anyway. As I said, you can get similar performance for far cheaper. And very few workloads make use of Titans muscle. And few users have a need to run such workloads. Titan is said to be best for SLI. But you need such an overpriced uber rig to not bottleneck (Ivy-E). This limits its market further. I feel like a broken record.
Edit> As for being future proofed... by the time these things are put to use (software catching up) there will likely be better offerings in the channel with newer archs on smaller nodes using less power, being quieter, etc. In the short and long terms, these are bad price/performance and good for niche markets and those who want/need it regardless of how overpriced it is...
AMD has nothing to fear from Titan as its not competing with AMD or affecting any of AMD's market right now...
This ref 7990 interests me though. Based on Tahiti XT? Interesting. I wonder how this will affect OC vs the "7990"s that are out now from third party vendors. Anything new is nice. I don't like the timing though... Since the Titan is underwhelming, they should have leaked it a lil later, adding insult to injury rather than making it look like an answer to the launch...
Obviously what I say is my opinion only, not trying to say its truth for all people/circumstances/workloads...
It's hard to have a hard stance on a topic and be opinionated, while still trying to come off as unbiased an unoffensive... Hence me always rambling and ranting and over-explaining myself and having to state its an opinion.
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6990's TDP was 375W. GTX590 was 365. nVIDIA's cooling solution was more efficient. We agreed on that before. Both boards had other issues, aside from cooling performance.
Meaning? If the coolers were underpowered for their applications, it's nVIDIA/AMD's sole fault.Originally Posted by Nowyn
So by your logic, when we see 680 running below 70 consuming 195W it is solely because it has a superior cooler to say a 580 with it's 243W TDP, that actually went over 300W when overclocked and overvolted?
Every cooler has a targeted TDP value it is designed to handle, plus there's a size limitation for power hungry card, as you do have a limited amount of space to deal with.
6990's TDP was 375W. GTX590 was 365. nVIDIA's cooling solution was more efficient. We agreed on that before. Both boards had other issues, aside from cooling performance.
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Yeah, look on the bright(er) side. 4GB+ vRAM on affordable next gen cards anyone ?Originally Posted by Fuell
Titan has such a miniscule market to sell in that AMD doesn't care. Selling FirePro cards as Radeons would cost them money, and do little for most consumers. It's just bragging rights and very niche workload that will benefit realistically from such a setup. It doesn't blow away any of the competing single GPU's enough to make the price make sense, and Xfire and SLI are cheaper while performing similar to better. Titan SLI will require an extremely expensive rig just to not bottleneck thus further shrinking its target market.
To AMD, the Titan is smoke and mirrors, a PR stunt. AMD only had to address Titan and rumors as of late as there were false negative rumors stirring about AMD in the press and online and Titan was coming out at the same time. The timing made it look bad for AMD, like they had no new cards, had delays and problems, and had no answer to the Titan. Letting such a perfect storm of rumors run wild would be very bad for them, so they addressed it. But like much of what was reported in their teleconference has come true. Titan isn't that much of a threat, and has no real market. AMD has picked its markets and is winning on price/performance along its entire line. They have no interest in this niche market the Titan is aimed at, and feel there is enough in the market to combat it anyway. As I said, you can get similar performance for far cheaper. And very few workloads make use of Titans muscle. And few users have a need to run such workloads. Titan is said to be best for SLI. But you need such an overpriced uber rig to not bottleneck (Ivy-E). This limits its market further. I feel like a broken record.
Edit> As for being future proofed... by the time these things are put to use (software catching up) there will likely be better offerings in the channel with newer archs on smaller nodes using less power, being quieter, etc. In the short and long terms, these are bad price/performance and good for niche markets and those who want/need it regardless of how overpriced it is...
AMD has nothing to fear from Titan as its not competing with AMD or affecting any of AMD's market right now...
This ref 7990 interests me though. Based on Tahiti XT? Interesting. I wonder how this will affect OC vs the "7990"s that are out now from third party vendors. Anything new is nice. I don't like the timing though... Since the Titan is underwhelming, they should have leaked it a lil later, adding insult to injury rather than making it look like an answer to the launch...
Obviously what I say is my opinion only, not trying to say its truth for all people/circumstances/workloads...
It's hard to have a hard stance on a topic and be opinionated, while still trying to come off as unbiased an unoffensive... Hence me always rambling and ranting and over-explaining myself and having to state its an opinion.![tongue.gif]()
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I mean this is a move that really puts the Titan in such a tight spot, tighter than it already is. The Titan is being marketed to either rich kids or people who have tons of cash already, most of which comprise the ~3% range of computer users, if not less. This 7990 if it makes it to the market, will be so much more of a cost effective GPU that when paired with a 7970/7950, will perform around where the Titan is, I'm guessing higher. Titan really has it's work cut out for it if AMD plans on releasing the 7990 at a very aggressive price range.
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Call it the 7980?
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