[j8ninja]

hi everyone, this is basically what i had posted in my ati cooling thread but since this isnt about cooling anymore, i wanted to post it here:

something weird has been going on with my setup starting just a couple of minutes ago:

when i first tested my 910 MHz in furmark 1.9.1, after a bit it actually restarted my computer after a Blue screen( something about display drivers crashing), i thought that this was because i had oc'ed my cpu to much so i set my i5 from 4.5 GHz to 4.4 GHz.

then i ran furmark again fro about 10 min at stock settings and it was fine.

20 minutes ago, i had tried playing crysis because i hadnt played it after i had blue screened so i wanted to know if it would be ok to play a game. turns out, i was loading the game, and turned on full screen in the settings menu, and crysis freezes and crashes with the tray icon telling me: " amd drivers were unresponsive and crashed, but were able to be brought back". well, it basically said that, but i cant quite remember. this usually happens when i oc to much and the card cant take it.

seconds after that, i blue screen(drivers crash) again, and i restart my computer. i play crysis again, and after setting the screen to full again, i manage to get into my last save and play as normal.

but im worried about the blue screen, this has happened twice now, would it be because of my cpu overclock or did something go wrong with my gpu?

edit: also, i have overclocked my XFX radeon hd 6870 to 970 MHz before and it was fine like that, after i adjusted the voltage. this was before i had gotten my second 6870 though.

 

[Mr. Moon]

It could possibly be an unstable CPU overclock. Try running prime95 on your cpu for an hour or two to see if it blue screens or crashes your computer. If it does then you know there is something wrong with the cpu overclock and you either need to back off the clocks or up the voltage if you want to retain the same performance level.

I think the GPU is fine, just run it at stock until you can verify that the cpu is not the issue. If the cpu is stable and you still have issues try running older, more stable driver versions for your gpu or up the voltage on the stock clocks to see if the issue is solved. If you are overclocking the GPU memory and it is still unstable, try just overclocking the core and leaving the memory at stock. Sometimes higher memory clocks can cause an unstable overclock.

 

[j8ninja]

its just that the day before, i ran prime 95 for 8 hours while i was sleeping at 4.5 GHZ and when i woke up, i saw that my computer had restarted so i knew that it had crashed. (the voltage is at about 1.32 V btw) , i rose the voltage from the offset mode in the bios from .01 V to .015V and ran prime 95 again for 3-4 hours while i was studying and it ran fine.

i guess ill run prime 95 again today, heres to hoping its just an undervolted overclock!!

 

[Ken1649]

Don't set computer to auto restart after BSOD to see the error code.

This might help you to identify the instability.

BSOD codes for overclocking
0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT...have to test to see which one it is
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r

 

[j8ninja]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken1649;15339530
Don't set computer to auto restart after BSOD to see the error code.

This might help you to identify the instability.

BSOD codes for overclocking
0x101 = increase vcore
0x124 = increase/decrease vcore or QPI/VTT...have to test to see which one it is
0x0A = unstable RAM/IMC, increase QPI first, if that doesn't work increase vcore
0x1E = increase vcore
0x3B = increase vcore
0x3D = increase vcore
0xD1 = QPI/VTT, increase/decrease as necessary
0x9C = QPI/VTT most likely, but increasing vcore has helped in some instances
0x50 = RAM timings/Frequency or uncore multi unstable, increase RAM voltage or adjust QPI/VTT, or lower uncore if you're higher than 2x
0x109 = Not enough or too Much memory voltage
0x116 = Low IOH (NB) voltage, GPU issue (most common when running multi-GPU/overclocking GPU)
0x7E = Corrupted OS file, possibly from overclocking. Run sfc /scannow and chkdsk /r

where do i see this when i get a blue screen? i have an ASROCK motherboard that comes with a dr. debug, though i dont know how to use it, would it be helpful?

im running prime 95 with blend right now, btw, holding out pretty well.

 

[Ken1649]

Quote:

Originally Posted by j8ninja;15339597
where do i see this when i get a blue screen? i have an ASROCK motherboard that comes with a dr. debug, though i dont know how to use it, would it be helpful?

im running prime 95 with blend right now, btw, holding out pretty well.

Just set the system to halt at the blue screen to read the code, otherwise hard to read as it moves so fast.

It would be helpful to narrow it down and adjust accordingly based on the error code.

 

[j8ninja]

yea, id love to find out the code for you and me... i dont know hwo to get it to blue screen again though. so far its been ok, though i only played a couple of minutes of crysis, and now im running prime 95.

is there any way to get a blue screen besides possibly just overclocking to a really big number?

also, to set the system to halt? im assuming you would do that in the bios, or just press alot of random keys on the keyboard when the screen shows up?

 

[Ken1649]

No, set it in control panel and follow the step 1, 2, 3 and 4 in the screen shot above.

 

[j8ninja]

umm, i dont see any screen shots. are you talking about the BSOD codes?
edit:

ok i did all of that, now i just need to blue screen =]... for that ill probably wait until the morning, if i dont get a blue screen sometime tonight.

though i still dont know how i would go about it, at first i was thinking of just setting the multiplier for the cpu to 46, but then that would make it the cpu's fault that i had blue screened. then we wouldn't know if the original blue screen was the cpu's or gpu's fault

 

[Diabolical999]

Quote:

Originally Posted by j8ninja;15339399
a Blue screen( something about display drivers crashing)

the tray icon telling me: " amd drivers were unresponsive and crashed

Yeah, your BSODs are from flaky graphics card drivers. What version of Catalyst are you on? Try the latest Catalyst 11.10 PRE 2: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/GPU122AMDCat1110PreDriverV2.aspx

And, as always, run Driver Sweeper right after you uninstall old drivers.

 

[j8ninja]

thanks for all the help you guys,

reading the info for those beta drivers, it seems that its only made for rage and BF3?

ill probably do a driversweeper in safe mode and re install 11.9, just in case, but the 11.10 drivers dont seem to have anything i need, right?

thanks for the help

 

[Ken1649]

Quote:

Originally Posted by j8ninja;15339939
thanks for all the help you guys,

reading the info for those beta drivers, it seems that its only made for rage and BF3?

ill probably do a driversweeper in safe mode and re install 11.9, just in case, but the 11.10 drivers dont seem to have anything i need, right?

thanks for the help

To clean up driver related, try this:

Atiman Uninstaller v.6.0.0.msi. Download LINK
(Run it with administrator privilege. Some antivirus software will give a false positive. Let it restarts to complete the uninstallation).

Install Catalyst 11.9.

 

[Section_25]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken1649 To clean up driver related, try this: Atiman Uninstaller v.6.0.0.msi. Download LINK (Run it with administrator privilege. Some antivirus software will give a false positive. Let it restarts to complete the uninstallation). Install Catalyst 11.9.

That Atiman Uninstaller for x64 x32 or both? Thinking of using it if I have any uninstall issues....

 

[Ken1649]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Section_25 That Atiman Uninstaller for x64 x32 or both? Thinking of using it if I have any uninstall issues....

That's for x64, never tested on x32. Give it a try, the worst Windows will tell you "incompatible". Not going to hurt anything

 

[fashric]

Do you crash with the cards at stock? If the answer is no then the overclocks are unstable. This is the first thing to test. Not sure why people are suggesting other things yet.

 

[Mr. Moon]

Quote:

Originally Posted by j8ninja thanks for all the help you guys, reading the info for those beta drivers, it seems that its only made for rage and BF3? ill probably do a driversweeper in safe mode and re install 11.9, just in case, but the 11.10 drivers dont seem to have anything i need, right? thanks for the help

They might not have anything that you think you need but they could well help the issue. Give them a try at least and see what happens.

 

[j8ninja]

well i didnt crash at stock, but it was only 10 MHz from stock, so i was really surprised that it crashed.

i guess ill try them out, but im at school right now so i wouldnt be able to test them yet.

thats the first thing im going to do when i get home, run furmark with everything at stock, except cpu overclock.

sorry i didnt post this in this thread, but i couldnt find it for some reason so i made a new one:

my question is the same as i have in this thread: http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/1144891-6870-crossfire-overclock-questions.html#post15347954

confused about overclocking crossfire =[

 

[Ken1649]

Quote:

Originally Posted by j8ninja;15347959
well i didnt crash at stock, but it was only 10 MHz from stock, so i was really surprised that it crashed.

i guess ill try them out, but im at school right now so i wouldnt be able to test them yet.

thats the first thing im going to do when i get home, run furmark with everything at stock, except cpu overclock.

sorry i didnt post this in this thread, but i couldnt find it for some reason so i made a new one:

my question is the same as i have in this thread: http://www.overclock.net/amd-ati/1144891-6870-crossfire-overclock-questions.html#post15347954

confused about overclocking crossfire =[

Do these:

1. Reset Afterburner and uninstall, when prompted to keep the settings, seleck "no" > restart.
2. Restore to Factory Default in CCC and Uninstall > restart.
3. Uninstall CAP > restart
4. Install Catalyst 11.9 > restart
5. Instal Catalyst 11.9 CAP2 > restart
6. Install Afterburner 2.2.0 beta 8 > restart

Disable ULPS. To disable ULPS (Ultra Low Power Saving):

1. Go to regedit (start > search programs and files > "regedit").
2. In drop down menu: find file > type "enableulps".
3. For ALL instances (keep pressing F3) change the "1" value to a "0".
4. Reboot PC.
5. Force constant voltage in Afterburner

Install only Catalyst 11.9 + Catalyst 1.9 CAP2 http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx

 

[j8ninja]

cool, sounds like a plan =]

now if youll excuse me.... i need to get off this site for a while... 3 threads at the top of the amd/ ati forum..... i feel the shame -.-"