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What do you guys think: Game developers...

  • only concentrate on the graphics and looks of the games and not the game play.

    Votes: 15 50.0%
  • concentrate more on the game play and not on the graphics or sounds.

    Votes: 5 16.7%
  • balance both and give equal attention to everything.

    Votes: 10 33.3%

What are game developers doing?

624 Views 18 Replies 13 Participants Last post by  TheSandman
What do you guys think that game developers have started concentrating on?

I personally think that now mostly all they care for is the graphics and not the gameplay.

EDIT: I mean in PC games, not about console games.
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they care about console sales only MW2 is proof of that
I kinda agree. Alot of gameplay was lost with the "3d revolution"

Some of my favorite games are 2d
Developers go where the money is ... CONSOLES. Piracy is lower and profits are significantly better. Some of us buying games for pc suffer because of the majority.90% them concentrate on graphics and the WOW effect. Most of the story lines and game play suck more than a vampire
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I added a poll so you guys can vote.
i think graphics are really important to, looko at crysis, the gameplay is good Because the graphics and physics are good
Unless its a AAA title with a huge budget and a lot of hype surrounding it (MW2) the developers will only concentrate on making it look nice. There are exceptions, but games like Age of Conan and Aion (both are MMOs where gameplay is the most significant detail and should take more time and effort to get down than a normal single player game) prove that pretty graphics will sell.
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i think graphics are really important to, looko at crysis, the gameplay is good Because the graphics and physics are good


I agree Crysis is a work of art but it has everything else. Storyline, gameplay and keeps you on your toes. Take another example ... NEED FOR SPEED SHIFT. Graphics are amazing, sounds are super, best NFS game out, but ... it is missing something. You don't have a certain goal or feel that man, i gotta finish it. Level 50 ... you can attain that whenever. With the previous NFS games, you had to get your M3 back, you had to get the baddie reputation, etc. Those had poor graphics compared to SHIFT but ... had something else.
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I agree Crysis is a work of art but it has everything else. Storyline, gameplay and keeps you on your toes. Take another example ... NEED FOR SPEED SHIFT. Graphics are amazing, sounds are super, best NFS game out, but ... it is missing something. You don't have a certain goal or feel that man, i gotta finish it. Level 50 ... you can attain that whenever. With the previous NFS games, you had to get your M3 back, you had to get the baddie reputation, etc. Those had poor graphics compared to SHIFT but ... had something else.

Well said
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They definitely only care about graphics. Console gamers have come to a stage where graphics sells over story line (for the majority of the time, there are exceptions).

For PC gamers, games have pretty much always been the next generation compared to console, and thus, PC gamers choose their games based more on story line, because even an older game from 2003-2004 will still look very nice on today's graphics systems.

Thus, because console have a bigger market share than PC's, developers cater to them, and thus they make games to look as good as possible on the consoles.
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A good example are the KOTOR games. Storyline was simply stunning. Gameplay had a few kinks but where solved by the KOTOR community. OSIDIAN did not really care that there were more bugs in the game than piece of software a 5 year old can write
. Graphics were not bad but the games were very enjoyable. It made you forget your were hungry or that you had to take out to dinner the missus
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I think game design is important too. Like in Diablo 1 and 2 the graphics are not great,
but it has some dark gothic design which makes it cool.

Or Thief 1 and 2 games have really great design work notwithstanding the crappy graphics,
in contrast to thief 3 which has better graphics but the design is too boring and generic.
I don't know which to choose...
They only concentrate on the graphics yet the games look like crap compared to Crysis/Crysis WarHead...
Console ports should be banned and they should instead have PC ports.
That way nobody can be displeased since the games won't be stripped.
The graphics in the Diablo games were great for their time.

And I could point to Dragon Age here too. The game has ok graphics, but Bioware obviously spent time developing the storyline, gameplay and user experience. It depends on what titles you play.

And its not just games. Music, television, culture, its all lowest common denominator entertainment and most (80% +) of the people making it aren't interested with providing you with a decent experience.

They want to make a product that you will buy with money.

Half the crap getting pushed out as "Art" and "entertainment" is pure redundant drivel that is slapped together without the slightest consideration of thematic elements and style. Then its marketed appropriately and people buy it.

Take a look at Twilight, or any other of the multitude of embarrassingly trite movie titles that are being released. Its marketing. Quantity over quality.

I hate it.

Consumers keep this cycle going because they are too lazy to wake up and realize that what they are being sold are shallow products instead of interesting experiences, because they are too stuck to their computers and televisions to realize that they are being marketed and segmented like cattle.

I attempt to sift through these cultural offerings for the quality. And because of this, I don't play a LOT of titles, and don't see a LOT of movies, and don't read a LOT of books. But of the ones I do take in, there are truly amazing pieces of work available.

I'm going to vote that they balance them, to give the developers who DO this credit in a situation where it obviously pays to not worry about it and keep pushing crap onto the shelves.
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The graphics in the Diablo games were great for their time.

Define great

I think a lot of people would say 2d sprites are not great graphics,
because at the time Quake games obviously were 3d.

Would people say that 3d graphics are "better" than 2d? I think, yes.
With that being said, I think that I would rather have a 2d Diablo game, that features
remarkable sprite design over a 3d Diablo game with wrong artistic direction.
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I think they are doing a good job. Game play and graphics are very good for me and the games I play. There are a bunch of games to choose from that have good game play and graphics....nothing to worry about or complain about here. Of coarse there are also a bunch of games whos gameplay or graphics suck, but....I dont buy those.
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Define great

I think a lot of people would say 2d sprites are not great graphics,
because at the time Quake games obviously were 3d.

Would people say that 3d graphics are "better" than 2d? I think, yes.
Meh.

I'm sure the Diablo sprites were designed in 3D and exported to sprites. Either way, everything on a monitor is 2D anyway. The only real difference is that 3D models have discrete geometry that can interact with physics and allow multiple viewpoint renderings.

Personally, I think Diablo is much more pleasant looking than Quake.

Its a dangerous attitude to assume that since its 3D its automatically better than 2D static art. It probably true more often than not, but its not inherent.
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its simple as games get prettier they get shorter and have less and less and less of a plot, in 5 years where gonna be playing tech demo's oh wait futuremark already did that
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