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What do you make of these new hardware additions?

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Hey, it's been a while since I've been here before. At first I was asking for help overclocking my (extremely stubborn) Phenom 9950 BE.... which now even has the occasional BSOD problems at stock settings, lol...

Anyway, I'd like to ask you all what you make of these new additions;

New mobo; ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe

New CPU sink; TRUE Copper (I'll probably lap this and my old sink to see how much I can get for the old one. =P)

Fan for the new sink; 120mm Delta 4000RPM fan

Thermal Compound; Arctic Silver

I'm also getting Accelero AC-S1 Revision 2s for my two 4870s, plus turbo modules for both.

I already have a set of six 120mm fans mounted on the side too. They're only about 40-50 cfm I think, but I think it should definitely help, especially with NB/SB cooling.

I'm hoping the new hardware and cooling coupled with a clean Vista 64 install should get me on the right track finally. Would anyone have any recommendations for what else I should do with what I already have, or do you think I should be all set?

Although will the new mobo be man enough to hold that behemoth of a heatsink or am I going to need to jury-rig something to help take away the weight?
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Did you rule out your memory as a potential problem before?
Yes, I'm quite certain that my memory isn't the issue.
Just out of curiosity, what did you try to rule out the memory? I only ask because it looks like you and I have the same memory, and I've had problems with mine before.
Overclocking an amd is like trying to load os x on a non mac computer not impossable but so difficuilt and pointless its almost not worth it. Older amd series processor just dont oc well the phenom II do good tough and the real old ones do ok but the ones befor the phenom II say from 2006-2008 suck
you don't even know what you're talking about. from the past chipsets, the windsor core is the only one not good for ocing. phenom Is are quite good actually though not as good as a phenom II.
what i dont know what i am taking about i have 24 amd in my class all oc'ed and some quads and defin quight good please because all i am saying is maby its his oc
hmm man you're confusing me.
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I loosened the memory timings quite a bit, upped the RAM voltage and tested the computer with just one of each of the two sets of sticks. I would try memtest but I don't have anything to burn the .ISO image to a DVD.

Edit;
I did get a good number of 'rounding' errors on Prime95... please don't tell me I have a bad 9950.
You should DEFINITELY use MemTest86. I use this ISO burner, as it's free and very easy to use. I had problems with two of my four sticks, but Corsair is great about RMAs. However, they will usually not RMA without first having you run MemTest. From your descritpion, I think memory is most likely to be your problem.
Will do. Now I just need to go out and get a DVD-R =P

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Hm... I'm having a few problems burning memtest to a DVD+R (I doubt whether it's +R or -R should matter), any advice?
It should be fairly straightforward. Unzip all the files, then use the ISO Burner to put the program on a disc. It shouldn't matter what kind of disc you use, and it will fit on a CD with no problem at all. Don't waste those expensive DVDs! You could also create a bootable USB flash drive, but I don't know enough about that to be able to help you.
Never mind, I managed to get it somehow, though I don't know exactly what I did. xD

Anyway; the diagnostic confirms no memory errors.

Back on topic, what do you think of the upgrades?
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New mobo; ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe

New CPU sink; TRUE Copper (I'll probably lap this and my old sink to see how much I can get for the old one. =P)

Fan for the new sink; 120mm Delta 4000RPM fan

Thermal Compound; Arctic Silver

I'm also getting Accelero AC-S1 Revision 2s for my two 4870s, plus turbo modules for both.

New mobo: Yes, good choice.

CPU Sink: I'm really scratching my head here. You bought a $105 heatsink, but you still have a previous generation Phenom I? Sounds like a completely stupid idea, because the Phenom I's do NOT overclock much. If you get 3ghz out of that 9950, be happy. It's also not going to raise temps high enough to warrant a TRUE Copper.

Compound: AS5 is old and overrated now. MX-2, AC-7 Diamond, Tuniq or Noctua paste would have been a better choice.

S1R2's: WILL NOT FIT. With the turbo module, each card will take up 2.5 to three slots.. Do you have enough space in the case for that?
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CPU Sink: I'm really scratching my head here. You bought a $105 heatsink, but you still have a previous generation Phenom I? Sounds like a completely stupid idea, because the Phenom I's do NOT overclock much. If you get 3ghz out of that 9950, be happy. It's also not going to raise temps high enough to warrant a TRUE Copper.

Compound: AS5 is old and overrated now. MX-2, AC-7 Diamond, Tuniq or Noctua paste would have been a better choice.

S1R2's: WILL NOT FIT. With the turbo module, each card will take up 2.5 to three slots.. Do you have enough space in the case for that?

Bah... I'm kicking myself about the thermal paste choice now, but;

The sink; I will most likely upgrade to a Phenom II sometime later this year, so it won't be a complete waste; question is if the ASUS will support a Phenom II. I could try a BIOS flash, but I don't really know how to... I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, though.

As for the S1R2s, yeah, I have a pretty big case, so I'm fairly confident I'll get them in there just fine.
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Bah... I'm kicking myself about the thermal paste choice now, but;

The sink; I will most likely upgrade to a Phenom II sometime later this year, so it won't be a complete waste; question is if the ASUS will support a Phenom II. I could try a BIOS flash, but I don't really know how to... I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, though.

As for the S1R2s, yeah, I have a pretty big case, so I'm fairly confident I'll get them in there just fine.

If you're going the Phenom II route, you'll be just fine.
790 boards SHOULD support PII's right out of the box with no BIOS updates, and Asus is a company I would trust to do that correctly.

I just read you already have a DK790 board (The 790FX M2RSH right?) I tested that no less than three weeks ago with a Phenom II 940, worked fine out of the box, and there is no reason to upgrade the board... That DFI board has overclocking options out the wazoo, more than any other on the market IIRC, AND it's a 790FX/750SB board, which is the best overclocking combo on the market... Why'd you upgrade the mobo?
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Never mind, I managed to get it somehow, though I don't know exactly what I did. xD

Anyway; the diagnostic confirms no memory errors.

Back on topic, what do you think of the upgrades?

You ran the test for 1 hour, and that's stable to you? All righty then...

To answer your questions, I'd stay away from Asus. Based on my experience with the two notebooks of theirs that I own, I'd suggest going with one of their competitors. Support at Asus is sub-par, and it's difficult to get information and updates for their products. Gigabyte makes some very good mainboards that overclock well, so look into some of their offerings.

You chose a TRUE Copper, which is a very very expensive cooler. You could spend half as much and still get an outstanding performer, as you're well past the point of diminishing returns. Look into the Tuniq Tower or the Xigmatek S-1283. You also want to think about the weight of that TRUE and the mounting solution for your processor. You'd almost certainly need to add something to support the cooler, unless you lay your case on its side.

I still use Arctic Silver 5, and I have no complaints about it. Maybe it is a bit "old," but that could also be interpreted as "reliable" or "tried and true."

In any case, good luck to you.
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Yeah, like I said, I'm going to jury-rig some sort of suspension system to take weight off the board.

I went into my bios and changed some memory timings; apparently it was the strange timings were part of the problem. ^^;
It was 5-7-7-27 before and I've changed that to 6-6-6-24 and so far Prime95 is rock solid for once. Oooops. Ah well, I could still use the new motherboard; a SB750 and a more stable platform would be a great benefit, not to mention I'm getting the distinct feeling the mobo I have now isn't exactly 100%.

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You can't tell I'm a noob overclocker at all, right? /sarcasm
Wow, the TRUE Copper got my attention and the rest of the threat just disappeared. Anyway you say you'll rig a suspension system... I suggest something elastic. Taking the weight off the mobo is a good idea but if the weight distribution isnt perfectly right you may actually ruin the cpu-heatsink contact. Over all I cant say that thing is worth it but it IS damn sexy... Heck I almost bought one just for the sheer awesomeness of 5 pounds of pure copper. Treat it well
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Quick question;

I've been reading up on the Accelero S1R2s, and I'm starting to wonder; should I cut up the stock cooler to put over some of the other parts or should I just stick with the extra sinks provided in the Accelero package, or a combination of both?
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