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  • HIS 7950 - $349 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161429

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  • Sapphire 7950 - $309 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026

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  • Sapphire 7950 - $329 http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7542

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7950 or 7970

is it worth what i save? which are the best models

i dont really plan to OC but i might, i want a sturdy card and i notice the Radeons seem to outperform the GTX's in more areas so I am avoiding Nvidia
 

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Hello!
I am very happy with my MSI TFIII OC and also with my Sapphire 7950 OC w/dual x crossfire setup.
Both game @ 1100/1400 1.18V,+20 Power,comfortably(28c ambient-TFII idles 30c,games 65-68 w/50% fan,[email protected] 64)on 1080p 75hz...TFII is a little noisier.
Sapphires(w/MCW-82-7900 GPU blocks,HS 7950's & 80 mm fans for VRM)idle at 27c & game at 44c.,VRM 56c
I tested MSI TFIII on H20,(has 7970 pcb,htf w/8pin/6pin)idle 27c gamed @ 49c.VRM 70c.
ASIC 89%
I tested Sapphire's w/dual-x (air)same settings,idles 30c,games 63-65 w/50% fan,VRM 67c.
ASIC 64 & 67
Both have overall good reviews-
Both needed oe cooler removed to replace TIM (GOBS in all 3 cases)
TFIII had one thermal pad with blue film still attached,both types leave 2 memory chips exposed...(under heatpipes?)
Some x-fire issues(make sure bios switches same,#2 on all,extra volts!)
may need memory volts,otherwise great cards.

I would recommend either.
YMMV!
 

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OH MAN, while i appreciate your post so much you went into so much depth that i dont know how to cipher this lol

i def am going for 7950 now seeing as its a <300> vs >450 pricemark

did you mean you replaced the thermal paste on all heatsinks for the card? (ive never replaced a gpu's heatsink or cooler is a bit scarry) for me
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jExfK6_zZRU good video for me
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now how to figure which would be the best 7950 for performance with no oc, seeing as if i oc ill lure myself into upgrading reservoir pump and get a gpu waterblock
 

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OC Edition means it comes overclocked from the factory, so you'll get a card that comes with a core clock of 900mhz, usually this card can be overclocked even further without much effort
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. The other Sapphire card is stock at 800mhz, you can still overclock it though, but there's no guarantee that you'll get anywhere near 900mhz, i'll say go with the OC Edition.
 

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http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2293545&CatId=28

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7368469&CatId=7387

msi twin frozrs, not sure about how the OC version compares to the reg, am i paying 30$ extra to not be able to toverlcock myself or is the card more advanced than the reg?

tY VERY much for the post guys!!!! its hard to figure out where 300-400$ is going to go, and the more of you that help the more i can get an idea of what to stay away from
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magic question....

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3242918&CatId=7387

do i buy a 7950 MSI twin frozr OC and push it a bit

or do i just spend 40$ more and get a crappy 7970
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sine its an investment, i do want to make the right one, i obviousyl dont want the 9950 to come out in 3months be 5 times as good as my card for only 500$

Edit WOW... so 30$ for a 50mhz increase from the OC MSI TFIII ... is it really worth it ? :/ seems like im getting taxed for nothing
 

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overclocked means they come overclocked from the factory. its guaranteed to work at those speeds. you can overclock further . so there is no cheating. also tigerdirect pricing is not as good. go for sapphire HD 7950 boost. good cooler. unlocked voltage. get it from superbiiz. the card is 29cm long. make sure your case can fit the card.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-7950BST

fill in your config
http://www.overclock.net/t/1258253/how-to-put-your-rig-in-your-sig
 

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I'm going to have to agree with this, I have this exact card and it's amazingly cool and quiet for the value, clocks very well too. Also I have had a really good experience with HIS overall as their RMA service is top notch and cards are the best you can get fort he money.
 

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overclocked means they come overclocked from the factory. its guaranteed to work at those speeds. you can overclock further . so there is no cheating. also tigerdirect pricing is not as good. go for sapphire HD 7950 boost. good cooler. unlocked voltage. get it from superbiiz.

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=AT-7950BST
do you think the triple slot ASUS 7950's are good at all?

Sapphires got my eye, its cheap and looks cool, and clocks seem high
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do you think the triple slot ASUS 7950's are good at all?

Sapphires got my eye, its cheap and looks cool, and clocks seem high
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asus cards are voltage locked. their cooler is excellent though. go for sapphire.
 

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asus cards are voltage locked. their cooler is excellent though. go for sapphire.
i see few vouches for the HIS, wish more people would post
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the cooler on his scares me , wonder how it does with temps

so 299 for sapphire or 299 for his, which one would you go for raghu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=SAPPHIRE+HD+7950&x=0&y=0 << HERES AN OC sapphire but its only 10mhz more, is that just a complete troll or is there anything different on that card lol
 

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Originally Posted by JrWhopper View Post

i see few vouches for the HIS, wish more people would post
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the cooler on his scares me , wonder how it does with temps

so 299 for sapphire or 299 for his, which one would you go for raghu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=SAPPHIRE+HD+7950&x=0&y=0 << HERES AN OC sapphire but its only 10mhz more, is that just a complete troll or is there anything different on that card lol
I've had 2 sapphire cards die on me, just like to chime that in. A x1950 xge, and a 6970 vietnam. I've only ever had 2 sapphire cards. I have had 2 HIS cards as well, both of which are still alive, a 3870 i sold to a friend who put it in his daughter's computer, and this 6970 i am currently running.

Of the companies I've used, (pny, bfg, xfx, his, sapphire.) Sapphire is the only manufacturer where the card hasn't lasted.
 

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i see few vouches for the HIS, wish more people would post
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the cooler on his scares me , wonder how it does with temps

so 299 for sapphire or 299 for his, which one would you go for raghu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=SAPPHIRE+HD+7950&x=0&y=0 << HERES AN OC sapphire but its only 10mhz more, is that just a complete troll or is there anything different on that card lol
the newegg model is a newer update of the sapphire HD 7950 boost. it comes with a shorter PCB at 27 cm. the dual x cooler has as slight change in look. the connectors are different too. dual link dvi, single link dvi, HDMI , dsiplayport

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1157&pid=1841&psn=&lid=1&leg=0

the original Sapphire HD 7950 boost is 29 cm long. dual link dvi, HDMI, 2 mini displayport.

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1157&pid=1713&psn=&lid=1&leg=0

also newegg does not show the game bundle with the card you listed. so go for sapphire HD 7950 boost from superbiiz. the best price for that card.
 

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the newegg model is a newer update of the sapphire HD 7950 boost. it comes with a shorter PCB at 27 cm. the dual x cooler has as slight change in look. the connectors are different too. dual link dvi, single link dvi, HDMI , dsiplayport

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1157&pid=1841&psn=&lid=1&leg=0

the original Sapphire HD 7950 boost is 29 cm long. dual link dvi, HDMI, 2 mini displayport.

http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1&gid=3&sgid=1157&pid=1713&psn=&lid=1&leg=0

also newegg does not show the game bundle with the card you listed. so go for sapphire HD 7950 boost from superbiiz. the best price for that card.
out of those two which would you pick?

problem is im buying from tigerdirect because i have some in store credit
 

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I've had 2 sapphire cards die on me, just like to chime that in. A x1950 xge, and a 6970 vietnam. I've only ever had 2 sapphire cards. I have had 2 HIS cards as well, both of which are still alive, a 3870 i sold to a friend who put it in his daughter's computer, and this 6970 i am currently running.

Of the companies I've used, (pny, bfg, xfx, his, sapphire.) Sapphire is the only manufacturer where the card hasn't lasted.
Did you OC and were you able to RMA it?

:S im not a fan of sapphire but im seein good deals for them, im leaning towards the msi tfiii
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3332167&SID=u00000687

400$ fora 7970 but sapphire, if it ry to get a msi 7970 im looking for 450+
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i wonder if the 100$ si worth the difference of the 7950 id rather save if it really isnt worth it
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Did you OC and were you able to RMA it?

:S im not a fan of sapphire but im seein good deals for them, im leaning towards the msi tfiii
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=3332167&SID=u00000687

400$ fora 7970 but sapphire, if it ry to get a msi 7970 im looking for 450+
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i wonder if the 100$ si worth the difference of the 7950 id rather save if it really isnt worth it
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No OC, yes i tried to rma but it was out of warranty.
 

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