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I would not trust that chart
There is absolutely no way OCZ Freeze can be better than Shin Etsu's X23-778D or whatever it is, from what I've heard about it.
 

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I would not trust that chart
There is absolutely no way OCZ Freeze can be better than Shin Etsu's X23-778D or whatever it is, from what I've heard about it.

yes it actually could...it its not properly installed haha
I think I have air pockets in my cooler so on sunday Im gonna reseat it..again to see if I get anywhere this time
 

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Yeah. When you reseat it, try cleaning the cooler and CPU thoroughly and use the dot-in-center method I detailed; let us know what the temps are after you've done that.
 

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Hey, I'm back to let you guys know that I idle around 30*C (will check this after a cold boot overnight), and probably not more than 42*C highest so far (haven't stress-tested the cpu yet).

I used the finger-in-a-plastic baggy method, which seemed to work really well for spreading an even, thin layer on my i7.

Also, the venomous-x is a kickass cooler, don't worry about the paste if you can upgrade the cooler instead. XD
 

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I used the finger-in-a-plastic baggy method, which seemed to work really well for spreading an even, thin layer on my i7.

Even though I very clearly warned against this?
Well, as long as you're happy with it, I suppose.
 

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I would not trust that chart
There is absolutely no way OCZ Freeze can be better than Shin Etsu's X23-778D or whatever it is, from what I've heard about it.


I wouldn't trust you! Have you tested them????? Nope.....You heard about it.......LOL...... BTW it list it as "freezer extreme". I have no idea if that animal exists or it is freeze.
 

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Well I usually use AS5...but I am starting to have my doubts about it now. Should I use the Noctua thermal compound? I saw somewhere that it dropped by a degree when overclocked...every degree counts IMO.

That and what if I didn't put enough AS5 on..should I try putting a bit more on? because the last time I reseated it I saw that it had like barely any contact between them.

Thanks and have a good day.


I have used AS5 and is crap compared to IC7. Although IC7 is expensive, it is worth it. I saw a 5C drop just with using it!

There are 4 really good ones:

IC7
MX-2
MX-3
OCZ Freeze
 

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Hey, I'm back to let you guys know that I idle around 30*C (will check this after a cold boot overnight), and probably not more than 42*C highest so far (haven't stress-tested the cpu yet).

I used the finger-in-a-plastic baggy method, which seemed to work really well for spreading an even, thin layer on my i7.

Also, the venomous-x is a kickass cooler, don't worry about the paste if you can upgrade the cooler instead. XD

That is the wrong method... I cannot believe we told you that and you still did it. Here is the video again bro....



 

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When I use MX2, I use a Razor to spread it.
 

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I have used AS5 and is crap compared to IC7. Although IC7 is expensive, it is worth it. I saw a 5C drop just with using it!

There are 4 really good ones:

IC7
MX-2
MX-3
OCZ Freeze


AS5 is not that bad. I saw at least a 3-5 degree(can't remember) drop with IC7 but remember, it takes 200 hours for AS5 to cure. The temps do drop 2 degrees or so when it fully cures.
 

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I have always liked OCZ Freeze the best out of all of them I have used, and I have used all of them LOL
 

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how long is the curing time for IC7
 

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how long is the curing time for IC7


I think nothing. It is pretty thick. I saw 3-5 temp drops immediately but I forget the exat temp drop due to brain freeze.

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I have always liked OCZ Freeze the best out of all of them I have used, and I have used all of them LOL


Bad if you used IC7, you would not use anything else my friend. It smokes freeze.
 

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I'm going to elaborate on pea-sized dot in the center vs. manually spreading, so this is put to bed (but probably not for very long):

Spreading it yourself does NOT guarantee an even spread, even if you think you've done it right. It doesn't matter what tool you used to spread it manually, there will always be discrepancies in how thin the coat is in one spot vs. in another spot x amount of millimeters away, even if you made every effort to be as even as possible. As I said before it also carries the risk of air bubbles, even ones you can't see, which is obviously detrimental to the performance of the material (and to an extent, defeats the purpose of it). This risk is carried no matter what tool you use, but it's readily evident if you use the plastic baggie method, since the surface of a plastic bag is extremely malleable and, wrapped around a finger, CANNOT be completely smooth unless you've just taken it out of the box or roll; even then it'll change as you form it around your finger and lose the smoothness.

These issues are all avoided with putting a pea-sized dot of TIM in the center of the CPU's IHS, and then letting your cooler or water block spread it (though there is still a very minute risk of air bubbles, it's rare if you're careful), and will always yield a more even and consistent spread; however the gain in temps between application methods may not always be obvious. Note that with HDT (heatpipe direct touch) coolers like my own Thor's Hammer, the best application method is still a single line between each heatpipe; Benchmark Reviews showed this some time ago with the HDT-S1283 and it's very clear that this yields the best spread with that type of cooler.
 

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I'm going to elaborate on pea-sized dot in the center vs. manually spreading, so this is put to bed (but probably not for very long):

Spreading it yourself does NOT guarantee an even spread, even if you think you've done it right. It doesn't matter what tool you used to spread it manually, there will always be discrepancies in how thin the coat is in one spot vs. in another spot x amount of millimeters away, even if you made every effort to be as even as possible. As I said before it also carries the risk of air bubbles, even ones you can't see, which is obviously detrimental to the performance of the material (and to an extent, defeats the purpose of it). This risk is carried no matter what tool you use, but it's readily evident if you use the plastic baggie method, since the surface of a plastic bag is extremely malleable and, wrapped around a finger, CANNOT be completely smooth unless you've just taken it out of the box or roll; even then it'll change as you form it around your finger and lose the smoothness.

These issues are all avoided with putting a pea-sized dot of TIM in the center of the CPU's IHS, and then letting your cooler or water block spread it (though there is still a very minute risk of air bubbles, it's rare if you're careful), and will always yield a more even and consistent spread; however the gain in temps between application methods may not always be obvious. Note that with HDT (heatpipe direct touch) coolers like my own Thor's Hammer, the best application method is still a single line between each heatpipe; Benchmark Reviews showed this some time ago with the HDT-S1283 and it's very clear that this yields the best spread with that type of cooler.
this. Rep + I just reseated it using the hs method and Im getting much better temps... well was
 

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ive used shin etsu or mx depending on what I can get my hands on in my opinion as5 got dethroned long ago but like mentioned these two are on the top atm hope this helps

EDIT: ive always used the dot method btw
 

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Used the plastic baggy + finger method for spreading AS5, works great for me. Maybe in a year I'll switch out for a better paste (since AS reccomends doing that once a year anyway....).

Not liking the cure time too much though, but it won't make a huge difference. XD
 
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