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I had a question... My 3700 is clocked at 3.024 and I was wondering what it compairs too... I was thinking about an upgrade in the 939 range, but if this will do just fine compared to lets say a dual core then I don't think I'll upgrade. I just wanna know what would be my next step I could take to improve performance on the 939 side. Dual core maybe??!!?? FX maybe??? Opteron??? Please help me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grouphug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Grouphug">
 

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Only thing that would be better would be an FX57 on phase (most aren't cold bugged, unlike 3700+s), or a dualcore at 3+ Ghz. Probably a 165. I wouldn't upgrade within 939, though. 3 Ghz is fast enough to hold me over until K8L or my core 2 setup.
 

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Wow a fx57 on phase <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Stick out tounge caps">. I was looking at the x2 4800 toledo on newegg, would that be anything different? Some of the reviews says is a great cp just not that great at oc... Just curious <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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I doubt you'd get much higher than 2.7 with the 4800+... if you're going dual core, get a good Opty 165 stepping.
 

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I agree with Namrac. If you want to upgrade your current 939 get the Opteron 165, they are fairly cheap now and if you get a good stepping you can hit a nice OC.<br><br>
I can hit 3.0 + with my stepping but keep it at 2.9 with stock vcore (1.375). I need to crank it up to 1.55 vcore to get at or above 3.0 but can easily be done.
 

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Yeah most S939 chips wont go past 3.0GHz or so. You could increase performance by going to a dual core opty but apart from that your at your limit already <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Wink">
 

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I'd be looking also at a Opteron 165 or a X2 4400+Toledo given a suitable purchase price.
 

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Some of the X2 3800's will run at 2800 MHz+. For the price you are on a winner surely. Even mine at 2400 (or less) feels to have the edge on a single core generally.
 

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You can't really benchmark a single core cpu against dual core imo, it's faster than an FX-57 (which is 2.8Ghz stock). And that CPU was the dogs b*ll*cks this time last year and would be enough for the next year or so. The only thing i would recommend is getting a better GPU.
 

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Honestly from my own experience I'd stick with the 3700 since I really haven't noticed much of a performance increase with general PC usage (not counting Super PI or any other benchmark) at this present time. But with the 165's so cheap nowadays it' not a horrible idea to upgrade either. So flip a coin and if you do get a 165 from a retail store, hope for a good stepping.
 

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Opteron 165<br><br>
Ony $160 now, and with a good stepping 3.0GHz is possible<br><br>
Dual core folding! Yeah
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">Some of the X2 3800's will run at 2800 MHz+. For the price you are on a winner surely. Even mine at 2400 (or less) feels to have the edge on a single core generally.</div>

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</div>Yep, at around 2.4GHz is when these X2 3800+s start to feel fast. I hit 2.8Ghz the other day. They are very cheap for the performance you get. <br />
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Lonnie5000 hit 3GHz the other day with his X2 4200+ Toledo on stock voltage. It appears he has a rare chip because I hardly see any with higher overclock than 2.6GHz, but who knows. It could be a new 3700+ SD thing.<br />
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EDIT - but if you can get a Opteron 165 for $10 more, go for it. 1Mb L2 cache per core.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic">You can't really benchmark a single core cpu against dual core imo, it's faster than an FX-57 (which is 2.8Ghz stock). And that CPU was the dogs b*ll*cks this time last year and would be enough for the next year or so. The only thing i would recommend is getting a better GPU.</div>

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Why would you recomend getting a better gpu? This things only 3 months old and is great... Also which would be better: $160 upgrade or $400 easy on a better gpu??!??<br />
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I don't even have this gpu oc'd at all and everything I play with maxed out settings at 1280x1024 I don't get any "blips" in frames.
 

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That GPU is fine. The best upgrade would be a dual core CPU. Any single core CPU (including the FX series) will likely run mariginally faster than your current 3700+ when overclocked (if you can hit over3.0GHz with the FX's that is).<br />
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Your video card is good enough for now. To see a substantial improvement, you'll indeed need to spend $400+<br />
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Go get that dual core CPU. Only upgrade that makes sense to me.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That GPU is fine. The best upgrade would be a dual core CPU. <b>Any single core CPU (including the FX series) will likely run mariginally faster than your current 3700+ when overclocked (if you can hit over3.0GHz with the FX's that is).</b><br>
Your video card is good enough for now. To see a substantial improvement, you'll indeed need to spend $400+<br><br>
Go get that dual core CPU. Only upgrade that makes sense to me.</div>
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How would a 3.0ghz FX run faster than a 3.0ghz 3700 SD?
 

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Wrong phrasing. Sorry <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
what I meant to say is that you likely won't be able to overclock the FX series CPUs much more than his current 3700+ Sandy. With this possibly higher overclock, they'll run marginally faster (let's assume he gets 3.1GHz v. his current 3.0GHz on the Sandy - that's a marginal difference in my opinion, not worth gettign a new CPU for)<br><br>
Sorry for being unclear
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">Wrong phrasing. Sorry <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment"><br><br>
what I meant to say is that you likely won't be able to overclock the FX series CPUs much more than his current 3700+ Sandy. With this possibly higher overclock, they'll run marginally faster (let's assume he gets 3.1GHz v. his current 3.0GHz on the Sandy - that's a marginal difference in my opinion, not worth gettign a new CPU for)<br><br>
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Its fine, no worries. I understand your point now, and would have to agree too.
 

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But 3.1 GHZ dual core will best that 3ghz single twice over...
 

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That's why I suggested the Opty 165 <img src="/images/smilies/wink.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Wink" class="inlineimg" />
 
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