[EliteGamer83]

I was shopping around in preparation for my new system (and first build). I was planning on getting the i5-2400, but to my dismay the only ATX mobo's I can find are using the P67 chipset (which I already know is used for OC k edition sb CPU's). I'm not really looking for high-end overclocking atm which is why I didn't choose the i5-2500k. I would like to use the onboard graphics coupled with the new i5's for awhile until I can replenish my PC budget with enough for the GTS 450.

Do you think that companies are planning at all in the future to make more ATX sized H67 chipset mobo's? Newegg only has 2 by Gigabyte which aren't what I was looking for. Also, why are the P67 motherboards so expensive? I couldn't think that they cost that much more to manufacture.

It seems like the previous generation i5's had many more motherboards to choose from to better suit your individual budget. The most I wanted to spend on the motherboard was in the park of about $115. If you couldn't tell already, this is somewhat of a budget build.

I feel like the motherboard companies here are basically making you choose between options for what you buy, a cheap-o motherboard with minimal features but sports a 1155 socket, or a super high-end board for $175+ with similar features that you would find on a $110 1156 socket mobo.

 

[appleg33k85]

Your asking about something that is a relatively new socket - the 1155 just was re-released, so to have tons and tons of boards that support all the features for the price isn't going to happen. The 1156 socket has been out much longer which is why you are seeing them with more choices (102 vs. 62 options, 10 of which have onboard HDMI and are ATX form factor) - most people that are doing budget orientated 1155 builds are using micro atx form factor not ATX. Save up a bit so that you can afford to get everything that you actually want, or compromise somewhere.

 

[Kvjavs]

Most H67 chipsets are mATX because they are mostly used for HTPCs or business PCs or just regular average everyday joe PCs who don't need a midtower case. Most are contempt or happy with mATX cases.

P67 is more geared towards gamers and enthusiasts, and since most have mid-towers, they are built as such.

 

[EliteGamer83]

Do you think we will expect any ATX sized H67 motherboards in the future? I realize the 1155 platform is still fairly new, but out of all 35 of the H61/H67 motherboards, I'm surprised to see that only 2 out of those 35 are ATX.

Being a highschool student on the minimum wage payroll, you can understand that there isn't exactly a river of in-flowing cash.

 

[Kvjavs]

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Originally Posted by EliteGamer83;13017382
Do you think we will expect any ATX sized H67 motherboards in the future? I realize the 1155 platform is still fairly new, but out of all 35 of the H61/H67 motherboards, I'm surprised to see that only 2 out of those 35 are ATX.

Being a highschool student on the minimum wage payroll, you can understand that there isn't exactly a river of in-flowing cash.

Yeah I'd wait a month or two though. If not H67, then Z68 or whatever it's called.

 

[MIKEVALL]

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Originally Posted by Kvjavs;13017345
Most H67 chipsets are mATX because they are mostly used for HTPCs or business PCs or just regular average everyday joe PCs who don't need a midtower case. Most are contempt or happy with mATX cases.

P67 is more geared towards gamers and enthusiasts, and since most have mid-towers, they are built as such.

+1 I doubt things will change much, as most people with a need for a atx board, will be using the k series with the p67 boards! ( just my opinion! )

 

[Draygonn]

You can use Micro-ATX boards in most ATX cases. Just 4 PCI slots instead of 7.

 

[Kvjavs]

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Originally Posted by Draygonn;13017479
You can use Micro-ATX boards in most ATX cases. Just 4 PCI slots instead of 7.

Yeah what's the point then though? I never could understand why people did this.

I very much believe in buying a board that matches the case (in size). I wouldn't wanna have possibly 7 expansion slots but only be able to use 4 of them. Unless I loaded the rest with eSATA and USB ports

 

[EliteGamer83]

So what do you get if you use a non-K series CPU on a P67 motherboard?

 

[DuckieHo]

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Originally Posted by Kvjavs;13017526
Yeah what's the point then though? I never could understand why people did this.

I very much believe in buying a board that matches the case (in size). I wouldn't wanna have possibly 7 expansion slots but only be able to use 4 of them. Unless I loaded the rest with eSATA and USB ports

Because mATX motherboards are cheaper.

 

[Jen]

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Originally Posted by EliteGamer83;13017646
So what do you get if you use a non-K series CPU on a P67 motherboard?

basicly if you use a non K in a p67 board and want to overclock you are limited to bclk. there wont be any unlocked multiplier for cpu

not only is it a problem for matx but look at mini itx its even worse on anyone offering one to overclock with

Jen

 

[straha]

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Originally Posted by EliteGamer83;13017646
So what do you get if you use a non-K series CPU on a P67 motherboard?

Nothing bad if that's what you are wanting to know. It will work just fine. You just won't be able to over clock much because of the non K processor, and you won't be able to use the on-chip graphics because it is a P chipset rather than H.

 

[Kvjavs]

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Originally Posted by DuckieHo;13017676
Because mATX motherboards are cheaper.

I agree yet disagree. There's plenty of ATX boards that are as cheap as, or cheaper than mATX. But I do see where you're coming from.

 

[DV9]

Full Sized ATX boards are generally enthusiast-level boards. [being larger with more features]

Enthusiast 1155 boards are P67, as they are usually OC'd.

mATX boards are for the general populous or HTPC builds. [being cheaper/smaller/less energy]

General Purpose / HTPC boards are H67, as they aren't usually OC'd.

 

[DuckieHo]

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Originally Posted by Kvjavs;13018232
I agree yet disagree. There's plenty of ATX boards that are as cheap as, or cheaper than mATX. But I do see where you're coming from.

If all else are equal, a mATX board is always cheaper to produce.... less material, simpler design, less traces, and less possible defects,