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is there ANY reason as to why fedora doesnt have nano OR pico
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had to yum install nano first thing
 

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A lot of places only ship VI, as it's all you really "need". The other text editors are considered extra, think frosting on the cake.
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A lot of places only ship VI, as it's all you really "need". The other text editors are considered extra, think frosting on the cake.
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vi can go die in a ditch XD

nano ftw
 

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take a deep breath count to 10, as i'm about to reveal another shocker, it doesn't come with sudo either...
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fedora is meant for the more "experienced" user, and nano is often considered a noobuntuser editor, so they discriminate by only including the hair pulling VI
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Am I the only person who prefers VI over nano?
Edit: Its probably because when I started in Linux VI was what everyone used.
if you started with VI and grew with it as it grew...then yes you wont see any problem with it, but starting out with the monster that is VI now...its a whole lot confusing
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i use it still, but more and more, nano is winning me over with its stupid simplicity.
 

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isn't vim the forked "VI Improved"? the one that attempted to make VI easier to use, but that got forked into nano? i get them always confused
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Don't know the history of development but yes "Vi IMproved". On my boxes vi just symlinks to vim.
 

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view is in Debian, and probably in all .deb based distros, and is another "improved" VI. I like view, it has.... Well I dunno the differences, I just like it. =P
 

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My Fedora 14 install tells me that I have nano installed from the installation DVD. So my guess is you either didn't select it at install time, or you installed from Live CD which has a more restricted package set.

Pico is non-free software and thus can't be included in distros like Fedora and Debian.
 

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My Fedora 14 install tells me that I have nano installed from the installation DVD. So my guess is you either didn't select it at install time, or you installed from Live CD which has a more restricted package set.

Pico is non-free software and thus can't be included in distros like Fedora and Debian.

how so? nano is an improved version of pico
 

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how so? nano is an improved version of pico

Nano was written from scratch, not based on non-free pico code.
 

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Nano was written from scratch, not based on non-free pico code.
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anyway XD how is vi seen as better than nano?

vi is just more difficult than nano... difficulty doesnt always mean its better
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nano is wonderful in how easy it is to use

vi, if youve never used it before... you have to consult a man page just to know how to use it... nano is simple enough you never have to even look at the man page
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vi is older, and much more light weight... but REALLY do you need to save a couple kilobytes of ram? no... nano is much more user friendly
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Am I the only person who prefers VI over nano?
Edit: Its probably because when I started in Linux VI was what everyone used.

I use vim.

I used to use nano however once I actually gave vim a shot and learned a few commands I could never ever use nano again. vi/vim are the way to go.
 

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i dont even see how a complex text editor would be any good at all...

you nano textfile

edit some text

ctrl+x to exit, y or n to save changes, then file name... done...

if your text editor requires a learning period... *** its a text editor
 
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alright

anyway XD how is vi seen as better than nano?

vi is just more difficult than nano... difficulty doesnt always mean its better
nano is wonderful in how easy it is to use

vi, if youve never used it before... you have to consult a man page just to know how to use it... nano is simple enough you never have to even look at the man page


vi is older, and much more light weight... but REALLY do you need to save a couple kilobytes of ram? no... nano is much more user friendly


Once you learn a few commands in vim you can navigate your way around a text file soooooo much faster than with nano. It's definitely a more complicated tool however it has a great deal more functionality. For smaller projects and files you may not see that value in using a more powerful editor however for larger projects its a necessity. Oh... and this is all in reference to programming (obviously)
 

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That's true. I could muddle my way around in nano, but I wouldn't be very productive. Vi(m) gives me a lot more capability.
 

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I think VI is nice for quick edits though too, I think it's much easier to hit :wq! than deal with ctrl+x, y/n, file name. :wq! saved and done.

[edit] Technically Esc, :wq!, Enter
 
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