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I lurk this sub forum and I noticed quite a few that complain about the switches on the Zowie AM and sub variants. Now I picked up this mouse last week expecting a high learning curve and at the worst switches as bad as a worn out intellimouse explorer 3.0. Quite frankly though, I don't notice a big difference between huano and omrons. I literally picked up the mouse and proceeded to own harder than ever, like I had used the mouse for years. First time I picked up the mouse I had a 30 and one free for all with a sniper vs all reg gunners lol. It almost feels like it takes slightly longer for the switch to release before you can click it again. Maybe a minuscule increase in pressure required for actuation. Is that why some don't like the switches though? It could be that I've used an old intellimouse 1.1 for ages at work so I'm used to having to click hard but quite frankly I don't see what the fuss is about. Shed some light please!

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The switches aren't great for spam clicking in RTS games or other click intensive games. Even though some StarCraft players do just fine with the Mico, it's just more comfortable to click alot with Omrons. Well atleast in my oppinion, but I like the Huanos
 

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I agree with you both.

I feel the switch has a stronger magnet and slightly stiffer spring, therefore requires a little more pressure and delays the reset. This is good for FPS games because control is very important. You don't want to accidentally press the button or press the button to much. When you need to do 4-5 shots on an opponent you want to do it deliberately so you can switch to the next target to do the same without any doubt.

When you have a switch that is very easy to press and resets super fast you can unwillingly spray your gun or shoot singles too fast to maintain the gun's accuracy. That is not to say it cannot be done with Omrons because I can use them rather well but it takes more practice. With the Huanos they force you into using them a certain way. For example I can on average, without much effort, get 66 clicks in 10 seconds with the Huanos; whereas with Omrons I can get about 10 more clicks in the same 10 seconds.

Now as I said just because I can click more times in 10 seconds with Omrons doesn't mean they are better for shooters. I rather use Huanos for shooters in all the mice I have. If I played Starcraft or LOL (any game like that) I would probably not want to use Huanos. So if you play both types of games seriously then you might want to have two different mice or buy two Zowies and change the switches to Omrons in one of them.

Does your AM's mouse 2 (right click) feel different and sound different than the mouse 1 (left click)? To me it feels like an Omron switch is in mouse 2 and a Huano in mouse 1. I have to open the mouse to find out myself but I just got it so I won't do that. If that is the case maybe some people would choose the AM for both types of games over other mice. They could just switch the button orientation in the control panel, like I do, to use the easier to actuate switch.
 

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I'll have to check when I get home but I do recall a slight difference in sound between buttons 1 and 2.

Being an ambidextrous mouse the lever geometry should be the same for both buttons so you could be right about that popups.

I was considering transplanting the omrons from my (dead) DA3.5 before I got the mouse but the huano switches were a pleasant surprise.
I've been getting more and more into RTS so I suppose it's an option if it ever becomes a problem.

I see where you're coming from, in the grand scheme of things it could lower APM (actions per minute) over the course of a round of RTS. I guess I just suck at RTS, my APM is probably laughable
 

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I really like the stiffness of the humano too, but theres a specific "problem" with the AM's shell which doesn't combine well with the switchs which makes it feels probably heavier for clicking, so as you saw around the forum - this might be problematic for some spoilled-OCN-users, I think its all about getting use to it, but sure, if you basically hate it just switch the switchs or switch a mouse. lol

What I dont like about the Humano is the durability - I have my EC1 Evo for half-a-year, and the switchs cannot be held - when you hold the main buttons (one of them, or both - doesn't matter) in game, it release itself and activates.
 

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I was considering transplanting the omrons from my (dead) DA3.5 before I got the mouse but the huano switches were a pleasant surprise.
Would you mind sending me your lens from your dead DeathAdder? I will pay postage.
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I really like the stiffness of the humano too, but theres a specific "problem" with the AM's shell which doesn't combine well with the switchs which makes it feels probably heavier for clicking, so as you saw around the forum - this might be problematic for some spoilled-OCN-users, I think its all about getting use to it, but sure, if you basically hate it just switch the switchs or switch a mouse. lol

What I dont like about the Humano is the durability - I have my EC1 Evo for half-a-year, and the switchs cannot be held - when you hold the main buttons (one of them, or both - doesn't matter) in game, it release itself and activates.
The shell has the switches further forward to decrease travel. That is done to decrease actuation time. Your finger is pretty much sitting on top of the switch. Whereas with the EC it is further back making the switch much easier to press but slower.

What do you mean by "held"? As in the mouse buttons are way to easy to accidentally press now? I know the EC1/2 Evo I used felt as easy to press as new Omrons.
 

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Would you mind sending me your lens from your dead DeathAdder? I will pay postage.
Sure thing, I'll try to find it tonight.
 

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Would you mind sending me your lens from your dead DeathAdder? I will pay postage.
The shell has the switches further forward to decrease travel. That is done to decrease actuation time. Your finger is pretty much sitting on top of the switch. Whereas with the EC it is further back making the switch much easier to press but slower.
What do you mean by "held"? As in the mouse buttons are way to easy to accidentally press now? I know the EC1/2 Evo I used felt as easy to press as new Omrons.
Yeah, exactly - the shell of the AM is "slim".

I meant that when you holding the RMB for example its release itself and being activated, which happened to me with a 3 years old Xai (omoron based)
 

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Does your AM's mouse 2 (right click) feel different and sound different than the mouse 1 (left click)? To me it feels like an Omron switch is in mouse 2 and a Huano in mouse 1. I have to open the mouse to find out myself but I just got it so I won't do that. If that is the case maybe some people would choose the AM for both types of games over other mice. They could just switch the button orientation in the control panel, like I do, to use the easier to actuate switch.
Yep mine feels the same. using my index finger as reference, I can click faster on the right click button, feels like my abyssus almost
 
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