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Alright time for another one of these threads and before i begin i want to say a few words, first off if you have one of these its not going to blow up and burn your house its not that bad its just not very good either, second this is an info thread to help and inform everyone what the flaws of the unit is, if you dont like this and you just want to rage and spam the thread becasue you dont like it then please stop reading right here and go away, thank you very much

First of the EVGA 80 plus and bronze rated units (not the B1 or B2) on paper looks like cheap 80 plus and 80 plus bronze units, but the fact is they are not very good and you should take your money elsewhere if you are looking for one of these units in a gaming and/or overclocking PC, why is that well i am going to explain in more details below.

OEM on these units are HEC or as i like to call them the kings of crap as almost everything they have ever made is not very good, the best HEC unit ever made is the gold rated AeroCool GT series which is on the OCN PSU list.

These units are group regulated as well which mean the voltage regulation is not going to be all that great.

Note that all ripple and voltage results are from the unit(s) at full load
review and pictures are from jonnyguru.com so all credit goes to them and not me as i have not reviewed this unit nor do i claim i have








Folks, what we have here is the exact same HEC design used in the 500B. Just... you know... less efficient and more rippletastic.


A CM6800 is our PWM/PFC controller of the day. That's a Capxon main filter capacitor, there.


Line filtering continues here with two more Y caps, an X cap, and a coil. No surge suppression device is present, but I tend to let that slide in APFC units anyway.


All secondary capacitors come from Teapo.


12v rail ripple suppression is crap its around 90mv and go as high as 105mv, and its been a long time since i seen anything that bad




So there you have it the EVGA 430 / 500 are cheap for a reason as they are not very good to say the least.
this time all credit goes to techpowerup for the pictures and info





The OEM of this unit is HEC/Compucase, and the 500B actually shares the platform with the be quiet! L8-500 unit we reviewed a while ago. HEC/Compucase is a popular choice for this price category because its units are affordable and perform decently. The secondary side uses a group-regulation scheme, which will give the PSU a hard time with our Haswell compliance test. Also, the components rectifying all of its rails are passive, which will reduce efficiency.
500B


600B


Same story as before lots of CapXon and Teapo caps used everywhere


Voltage Regulation is not great but it could be worse

500B


600B


12v rail ripple suppression is a little bit better on the 500B and 600B but not by much

500B

Reviews of the 80 plus rated units
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=436
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=431
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=384
hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/#.VOdngks5AuU


Reviews of the bronze rated units
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=351
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/12/16/evga_500b_500w_power_supply_review/1#.VmwrFL8WmwZ
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/500B/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/600B/

At least the bronze rated units are better then the 80 plus rated units are.

So there you have it avoid these units if you are looking for one in your mid/high end gaming and/or overclocking PC, if you are making a cheap office/media or other low end non stressful PC they are okey but still not great.
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I've seen the EVGA 500B for $29.99 on Newegg and the EVGA 430 for $19.99. Now, they aren't the best units in the world but for those prices they are perfect for cheap office builds. If you are building a cheap gaming rig I would recommend you spend a bit extra and go with an Antec Earthwatts or similar, I wouldn't want to use these units in a stressful environment.
All info and pictures came from techpowerup jonnyguru and the testing has been done by them so all credit goes to them not me.
 

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Ew. No thank you EVGA.

I mean, I understand that these are designed with a certain budget target in mind.... but why when the Rosie Capstone, etc is a MUCH better unit for not that much more...?
 

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I've seen the EVGA 500B for $29.99 on Newegg and the EVGA 430 for $19.99. Now, they aren't the best units in the world but for those prices they are perfect for cheap office builds. If you are building a cheap gaming rig I would recommend you spend a bit extra and go with an Antec Earthwatts or similar, I wouldn't want to use these units in a stressful environment.
 

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Made an edit at the end of the thread as twerk had a point
 

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Very well made thread as always! Information instead of don't buy this it's crap blah blah blah! And you're always willing to change your opinion if someone makes a valid point!
 

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Good work Shilka
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Much like the CX series from corsair, these PSUs can't be interchanged watt for watt in enthusiast/performance computing builds with more highly regarded PSU options.

Odd that they chose pretty *decent* 105C rated SC series Teapo caps for the secondaries, but then went and used semi-garbage class 85C rated capXon LP series on the main filters. Huge bummer and that is apt to be a source of degrading power quality as the unit ages.
 

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Good work Shilka
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Much like the CX series from corsair, these PSUs can't be interchanged watt for watt in enthusiast/performance computing builds with more highly regarded PSU options.

Odd that they chose pretty *decent* 105C rated SC series Teapo caps for the secondaries, but then went and used semi-garbage class 85C rated capXon LP series on the main filters. Huge bummer and that is apt to be a source of degrading power quality as the unit ages.
Yeah that didn't make sense to me either. Probably got a shipment of 100k of them for a good deal
 

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Was thinking about a W.Y.S.N.B. thread for the Fractal Design Integra R2 and the Corsair CS next but i really dont know these threads have a way of going total FUBAR, and its not like i really like doing threads like this i just think everyone have a right to know what is not very good, its not like its hate or bashing on the units or brand.
 

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None of them are good but the bronze rated models are better then the lower white 80 plus rated models.
 

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I still think its not bad if you consider it a budget psu. Certainly cant be compared to higher end models but its the cheapest decent psu and for good reason. There is the CX600 but its only rated at 30C continuous? Btw where does that info come from? Looked on the Corsair site and it says "Rated up to 600W of continuous power output at 40ºC". http://www.corsair.com/en-us/builder-series-cx600
 

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IThere is the CX600 but its only rated at 30C continuous? Btw where does that info come from? Looked on the Corsair site and it says "Rated up to 600W of continuous power output at 40ºC". http://www.corsair.com/en-us/builder-series-cx600
I never said they where bad i said they are not all that good and thats way they are so cheap and they dont belong anywhere near a high end gaming machine or any gaming machine.

As for the 30c
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
And jonnyguru says the same.
 

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I never said they where bad i said they are not all that good and thats way they are so cheap and they dont belong anywhere near a high end gaming machine or any gaming machine.

As for the 30c
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
And jonnyguru says the same.
Thanks for the info. I'll ask around to check if its really 30c. Maybe corsair or realhardtech wills ays something about it.
 

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Thanks for the info. I'll ask around to check if its really 30c. Maybe corsair or realhardtech wills ays something about it.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=416

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Guys, this thing is only rated to full power at thirty degrees. I've spoken about this kind of thing before, but not for a while, so here's my position on this: I have no use for anything that can't do full power at forty degrees or better, and I review these units accordingly. Computer cases routinely see temperatures higher than thirty at the power supply intake, and this becomes more and more of an issue the further south you live, depending on whether or not you're buying this budget unit so you can afford to run the AC.

It also becomes more of an issue depending on where your unit is located. I have family with computers next to heating vents, because that's the only place available to put them. Guess what that does to a Canadian computer? Most of their cases don't have the newer layout where the power supply pulls room temperature air in from underneath the case, so those power supplies are taking in air heated by the vent and the computer hardware. Thirty degrees? Ha!

No, folks, thirty degrees just doesn't work for me. A unit this heavily de-rated is likely only good for 650W at a more reasonable forty to fifty degrees. It may be a perfectly decent little unit, but my hot box will not stay cool enough to make this unit happy. This is by design - my methodology is to get these things to at least forty whenever possible, because that's the lowest temperature I personally expect to get full power out of a unit. Forty is more than reasonable, even for a good budget unit.

Really, here's what it comes down to... this unit has to pass hot box testing, or there will be scoring repercussions on page six. I haven't had to use those particular scoring rules in a looooong time. Corsair, I hope you had CWT give you overtemp protection, because I think this unit is going to need it.
 

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I honestly thought the 430 was a decent psu for how cheap it is, even read johnnyguru's review and he gave it an 8.5. Would it still be plausible to run an FX6300+GTX950 combo on one or would it eventually wear the psu to the bone?
 

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I honestly thought the 430 was a decent psu for how cheap it is, even read johnnyguru's review and he gave it an 8.5. Would it still be plausible to run an FX6300+GTX950 combo on one or would it eventually wear the psu to the bone?
Its cheap for a reason and that reason is its not all that good.

http://hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/#.VhDs-T2SouV
The 500B looks like its a little bit better and only a couple bucks more, I could probably use that instead.

I would like to go with something like the Corsair CS450M or a Seasonic S12II but they aren't in budget range, and even if they were, would it really benefit from having one or the other? I mean I would think so if I was running higher end hardware but as it stands I feel like the 500B would suffice. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fnpGCJ
 

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The 500B looks like its a little bit better and only a couple bucks more, I could probably use that instead.

I would like to go with something like the Corsair CS450M or a Seasonic S12II but they aren't in budget range, and even if they were, would it really benefit from having one or the other? I mean I would think so if I was running higher end hardware but as it stands I feel like the 500B would suffice. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fnpGCJ
About the best in that price range is the XFX TS which is a rebranded Seasonic S12IIB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013&cm_re=XFX_TS-_-17-207-013-_-Product

Its better then the EVGA 500B.

The 450 watt version is a litte bit cheaper
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX12V-Power-Supply-P1450SGREN/dp/B013UFQ2CG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1443977401&sr=8-8&keywords=XFX+TS
 

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The 500B looks like its a little bit better and only a couple bucks more, I could probably use that instead.

I would like to go with something like the Corsair CS450M or a Seasonic S12II but they aren't in budget range, and even if they were, would it really benefit from having one or the other? I mean I would think so if I was running higher end hardware but as it stands I feel like the 500B would suffice. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/fnpGCJ
About the best in that price range is the XFX TS which is a rebranded Seasonic S12IIB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207013&cm_re=XFX_TS-_-17-207-013-_-Product

Its better then the EVGA 500B.

The 450 watt version is a litte bit cheaper
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX12V-Power-Supply-P1450SGREN/dp/B013UFQ2CG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1443977401&sr=8-8&keywords=XFX+TS
Thanks, the 450 watt seems to be the most reasonable price wise. I keep looking at the 500B and 430 though and really I'm not seeing too much of a difference between those and the XFX TS. Keep in mind I'm looking at the portion of the tests where the unit is being tested at 230/280 watts, since that is the most realistic load scenario for this build.
 
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