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Wii - 480p or 480i?

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HeartOfAHydra
Okay so first off i have a HD CRT TV, love it. Anyway i just recently hooked my Wii up to it, via Component cables and although i do love the sharpness that 480p brings... i can't help but notice the insane amount of 'jaggies' brought up by it due to the sharp nature of the resolution. I switched it to 480i (still with the Components hooked up) and the picture is much, much smoother. The only problem is, my games don't seem as 'silky smooth' in framerate (the best way i can describe it). The 480i gives the picture i like, even if a little blurry... but New Super Mario Bros. has this ultra-smoothness to it in 480p...

So my question is is it just me or can 480p really affect how your eyes perceive the framerate?

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tK FuRY
Well with 480p you won't get the "dancing ants" as you would with interlaced. But if your TV doesn't process P well, you start getting bad response time.

In your case, you like 480i, so the question is. Does it feel more responsive to you?

EDIT: I don't think I answered your question at all. Give me a minute to rethink this lol.
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On a crt, refresh rate is a huge difference.That's what is really changing here, refresh rate. That's one of the advantages of plasma/LCD
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HeartOfAHydra
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Well with 480p you won't get the "dancing ants" as you would with interlaced. But if your TV doesn't process P well, you start getting bad response time.

In your case, you like 480i, so the question is. Does it feel more responsive to you?

EDIT: I don't think I answered your question at all. Give me a minute to rethink this lol.

What are these "dancing ants" you speak of? Screenshot perhaps?
I think the response is pretty picture perfect in both tho, considering it is a *CRT* type of HDTV
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HeartOfAHydra
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On a crt, refresh rate is a huge difference.That's what is really changing here, refresh rate. That's one of the advantages of plasma/LCD

So is the refresh rate changing when i go from 480"i" to "p"?
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So is the refresh rate changing when i go from 480"i" to "p"?

Going from P to I, or vice versa changes the FPS also IIRC.

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Simply switching from 480i to 480p shouldn't have any effect on your refresh rate at all.

The only difference in one is interlaced and one is progressive. Almost always if you can support a progressive input, then do so.
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HeartOfAHydra
Ahhh, thank you all so much for your replies.

So i wanna go progressive and all but... how do i get over the jaggies?!
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Changing to 480p isn't going to help any aliasing problems you see in Wii games. That's specifically the game itself, and unless the Wii has some sort of method to force AA then you can't get rid of them, but 480p should help clarity by some degree.
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tK FuRY
I would have to say Anti-Aliasing to get over the jaggies?
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Changing to 480p isn't going to help any aliasing problems you see in Wii games. That's specifically the game itself, and unless the Wii has some sort of method to force AA then you can't get rid of them, but 480p should help clarity by some degree.

See but in 480p the clarity clears up so much that the aliasing is wayyy more apparent, where as in 480i i hardly notice any aliasing from a distance... make sense?
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See but in 480p the clarity clears up so much that the aliasing is wayyy more apparent, where as in 480i i hardly notice any aliasing from a distance... make sense?


Interlaced images have a much lower resolution than progressive images, so yes it does
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Interlaced images have a much lower resolution than progressive images, so yes it does




Any exacts on what each resolution is exactly?
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Any exacts on what each resolution is exactly?


Quick quote - I would have came up with this myself, but it's too early in the morning for me to think logically / numerically.

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For a given bandwidth and refresh rate, interlaced video can be used to provide a higher spatial resolution than progressive scan. For instance, 1920x1080 pixel resolution interlaced HDTV with a 60 Hz field rate (known as 1080i60) has a similar bandwidth to 1280x720 pixel progressive scan HDTV with a 60 Hz frame rate (720p60), but approximately twice the spatial resolution.

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