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So I keep hearing that Aero over Basic uses more of your gpu, and that it may effect your fps in games. I have yet to see actual numbers, so i decided to this out myself. Added Classic test by request of TwoCables<br>
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Furmark 1.8.0 benchmarking with Post FX at Fullscreen 1680x1060 for 1 min.<br>
Ran each test 3 times, got the same results for each.<br><br>
These are my results<br><br><b>Aero and Transparency On:</b><br><img alt="" src="http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/7852/oncrop.png" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><b>Aero with Transparency Off:</b><br><img alt="" src="http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/8640/transoffcrop.png" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><b>Basic:</b><br><img alt="" src="http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6015/basiccrop.png" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><b>Classic:</b><br><img alt="" src="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2788/classiccrop.png" style="border:0px solid;"><br><br><br>
As you can see by turning off Aero your minimum fps greatly increases, yet the average only increased by one. I am surprised however that there is no difference between Basic and Classic, I thought at least the minimum would have increased. It is enough however to convince me to run with Basic <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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Many games actually switch Windows to basic temporarily while it is running.<br><br>
I'll trade a few FPS for a better looking experience outside of games either way though.
 

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You should run more than one test at each setting. Margin of error is telling me there is no difference between any of these results.
 

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I have run 3 tests of each, but only posted screenshots of 1, I can upload more SS if you want
 

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What happens when using the Windows Classic theme?<br><br>
By the way, csscmaster3: this is perfect timing as I was finally beginning to wonder the very same thing last night. I even went so far as to try gaming with the Windows Classic theme, but it made no difference that I could feel or see. However, I certainly understand that a benchmark would reveal any differences.
 

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Added classic benchmark
 

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hehe 2 more points with Classic, but the temperature was higher.
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but furmark doesn't gain focus of the entire desktop does it? It's been a little while since I used it.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>TwoCables</strong> <a href="showthread.php?s=5bd08cb0a2becf66ff9a516b8d226d15&p=8575637#post8575637"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="http://static.overclock.net//img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">hehe 2 more points with Classic, but the temperature was higher.</div>
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Well on the aero and basic tests i let my gpu cool down all the way to 37 in between tests, so the conditions aren't 100% the same for classic, I just did it quickly to show you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/cool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Cool">
 

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gain 9 min fps. but aside from that not really worth it
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>csscmaster3</strong> <a href="showthread.php?s=5bd08cb0a2becf66ff9a516b8d226d15&p=8575688#post8575688"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="http://static.overclock.net//img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">Well on the aero and basic tests i let my gpu cool down all the way to 37 in between tests, so the conditions aren't 100% the same for classic, I just did it quickly to show you <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/cool.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Cool"></div>
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Oh, well now I appreciate it even more! Thank you!
 

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I love classic, I dislike pretty much anything else <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/redface.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Embarrassment">
 

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I think if its not too much of your time it would be interesting to test this with say the STALKER or the Crysis benchmark utilities. I'm not saying get on it now but for future reference it would add more support to this hypothesis.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">I think if its not too much of your time it would be interesting to test this with say the STALKER or the Crysis benchmark utilities. I'm not saying get on it now but for future reference it would add more support to this hypothesis.</div>
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Ok thanks, I do that either tonight or tomorrow. I did Furmark because i knew it was a fast test.
 

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<div>Originally Posted by <strong>csscmaster3</strong> <a href="showthread.php?s=5bd08cb0a2becf66ff9a516b8d226d15&p=8575792#post8575792"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="http://static.overclock.net//img/forum/go_quote.gif" style="border:0px solid;"></a></div>
<div style="font-style:italic;">I don't own Crysis <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/frown.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Frown"> but ill benchmark it with Stalker later tonight or tomorrow. I did Furmark because i knew it was a fast test.</div>
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But you can still get the Crysis Benchmark Tool even if you don't have Crysis. Check this out:<br><ul><li><a href="http://downloads.guru3d.com/Crysis-Benchmark-Tool-1.05-Final-download-1791.html" target="_blank">http://downloads.guru3d.com/Crysis-B...load-1791.html</a></li>
<li><a href="http://crymod.com/thread.php?postid=80046" target="_blank">http://crymod.com/thread.php?postid=80046</a></li>
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There are more links, but I think this is enough.
 

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There's a free Crysis benchmark utility you can get, but I'm not sure if you need to own the game to use it or not.<br><br>
Same thing with stalker, there should be a utility, I'll get you links for both.*<br><br>
*Never mind TwoCables beat me to it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">There's a free Crysis benchmark utility you can get, but I'm not sure if you need to own the game to use it or not.<br><br>
Same thing with stalker, there should be a utility, I'll get you links for both.*<br><br>
*Never mind TwoCables beat me to it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile"></div>
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hehe <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sonic.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Sonic"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/typer.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Typer">
 

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That tool requires Crysis...i just tried it, I'm download the stalker benchmark, so I'll just use that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin">
 

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Aw damn.
 

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<div style="font-style:italic;">That tool requires Crysis...i just tried it, I'm download the stalker benchmark, so I'll just use that <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Big Grin"></div>
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Sounds good I'll keep an eye out <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">.
 
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