That's far away. I expected later this month. My fresh installation is due. NVM, going to install Windows 8 now.
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You won't regret.Originally Posted by Baghi
That's far away. I expected later this month. My fresh installation is due. NVM, going to install Windows 8 now.
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RTM is due later this month. This is just retail availability.Originally Posted by Baghi
That's far away. I expected later this month. My fresh installation is due. NVM, going to install Windows 8 now.
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Oh, I see. The title is misleading then.Originally Posted by zalbard
RTM is due later this month. This is just retail availability.
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Microsoft doesn't learn.
So they are really going forward with this stunt. It wasn't enough that they had to face consumer backlash because we were being shoved the Start Screen without an option to boot straight to the desktop, now they backtrack on that but insist you come out of your offline account, create an on-line account to access the store in order to get this.
Microsoft doesn't learn.
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The only saving grace for enthusiasts like us is that we know better and will just make a clean install from the full Windows 8.1 ISO, that one I'm sure will be made available. Still, an unnecessary hassle for many.
Let's see if they make it available as a separate ISO, for months now their PR strategy has been this: force people to create an on-line account (which acts as a sort of registration when you think about it, something that is against the privacy you should be entitled to), go into the store in order to get the update. No mention whatsoever of it being available through Windows update (like Windows XP SP2 was) or as a separate ISO.Originally Posted by Baghi
Yeah, and installing off of an ISO is a time consuming task.
The only saving grace for enthusiasts like us is that we know better and will just make a clean install from the full Windows 8.1 ISO, that one I'm sure will be made available. Still, an unnecessary hassle for many.
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Yeah pretty lame for M$. The worst part for me is, in order to use built-in SkyDrive you've to update it, and the update is only made possible via Windows Store (forcing you either to sign in/up or install a desktop version). Since ISO for Windows 8.1 Preview is already available to public I'm going to guess there'll be a separate one for the RETAIL as well.Originally Posted by tpi2007
Let's see if they make it available as a separate ISO, for months now their PR strategy has been this: force people to create an on-line account (which acts as a sort of registration when you think about it, something that is against the privacy you should be entitled to), go into the store in order to get the update. No mention whatsoever of it being available through Windows update (like Windows XP SP2 was) or as a separate ISO.
The only saving grace for enthusiasts like us is that we know better and will just make a clean install from the full Windows 8.1 ISO, that one I'm sure will be made available. Still, an unnecessary hassle for many.
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According to credible sources (Mary jo Foley being one), when it RTMs, Microsoft may not release to MSDN/Technet subscribers, who will have the same release date as everyone else.Originally Posted by ennogs
RTM is 26th Aug. So I am sure you will be able to get before Oct.
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Not really, RTM doesn't mean it will be officially released. RTM is a Manufacture only release. Its for companies like DELL, HP, etc. So they can start mass installing Windows 8.1 on their OEM machines. So when the official Windows 8.1 release time comes, they will have machines ready to stock store shelves with the new OS.Originally Posted by Baghi
Oh, I see. The title is misleading then.
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There should be an ISO, if they are releasing a retail copy like they said they would. You can expect ISO's to be on MSDN eventually. Which will eventually leak from there to torrent sites and other places. Tho you should be able to get the official ISO directly from Microsoft through their own download tool.Originally Posted by tpi2007
Let's see if they make it available as a separate ISO, for months now their PR strategy has been this: force people to create an on-line account (which acts as a sort of registration when you think about it, something that is against the privacy you should be entitled to), go into the store in order to get the update. No mention whatsoever of it being available through Windows update (like Windows XP SP2 was) or as a separate ISO.
The only saving grace for enthusiasts like us is that we know better and will just make a clean install from the full Windows 8.1 ISO, that one I'm sure will be made available. Still, an unnecessary hassle for many.
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I wouldn't doubt it, as that would keep it out of hands of people until launch day comes. If it happens to have major issues, last thing Microsoft needs is people sharing videos and pictures of all the things that you can expect wrong with it before its even for sale.Originally Posted by Raven Dizzle
According to credible sources (Mary jo Foley being one), when it RTMs, Microsoft may not release to MSDN/Technet subscribers, who will have the same release date as everyone else.
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You can still do a local account with Windows 8.1, the trick is to enter a wrong Microsoft account password. Then the installer will ask "bad login, do you wanna create a local account instead and link your Microsoft account later?" or something. Which allows you to make a local account like you normally would in Windows 8 vanilla.Originally Posted by feniks
8.1 is annoying, the installation requires Internet access for Microsoft account (no Local Account option in installer) and then can be switched to Local account (which is good, but it's an unneeded complication).
... and the win8 "Start Button" just brings the idiotic Metro UI while it could bring the useful right-click menu (which still looks butt ugly).
I like bare win8 better LOL.
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I have 8.1 running on both my main and secondary PC, and it installed perfectly fine offline (just like in 8).
BTW you guys, don't worry, we'll get a clean 8.1 .iso file directly from Microsoft as well. Bet on it.
Not true.Originally Posted by feniks
8.1 is annoying, the installation requires Internet access for Microsoft account (no Local Account option in installer) and then can be switched to Local account (which is good, but it's an unneeded complication).
... and the win8 "Start Button" just brings the idiotic Metro UI while it could bring the useful right-click menu (which still looks butt ugly).
I like bare win8 better LOL.
I have 8.1 running on both my main and secondary PC, and it installed perfectly fine offline (just like in 8).
BTW you guys, don't worry, we'll get a clean 8.1 .iso file directly from Microsoft as well. Bet on it.
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offline maybe yes, but you had to use Microsoft account. that's what I saw in VMware player when using 8.1 x64 enterprise preview ISO.Originally Posted by SlackerITGuy
Not true.
I have 8.1 running on both my main and secondary PC, and it installed perfectly fine offline (just like in 8).
BTW you guys, don't worry, we'll get a clean 8.1 .iso file directly from Microsoft as well. Bet on it.
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ah, you mean something like that? yeah I missed that text option because I entered correct credentials LOL.
I used official Microsoft 8.1 x64 Enterprise Preview ISO download, that's how it comes normally, no button for local account installation, it was on some blogs too. I ended up installing with MS account and then after installation created a local admin.
http://www.eightforums.com/installation-setup/27806-how-install-windows-8-1-preview-using-local-account.htmlOriginally Posted by Opcode
I installed and ran Windows 8.1 without a Microsoft account. Read my post a few posts up.
ah, you mean something like that? yeah I missed that text option because I entered correct credentials LOL.
I used official Microsoft 8.1 x64 Enterprise Preview ISO download, that's how it comes normally, no button for local account installation, it was on some blogs too. I ended up installing with MS account and then after installation created a local admin.
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