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Which of these CPUs would be better. The 4400 is 400MHz faster than the Opty, and both have 2 x 1MB L2. I really don't wanna get an Opteron just for the sake of jumping on the bandwagon, so would I be guaranteed to OC the Opty higher than I could OC the 4400? If possible, I would love to hit 3 GHz, but My realistic goal is 2.7 GHz. I'll be keeping my current HSF. So I guess the only real question is: Will the Opy outperform the 4400?<br />
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I think the 4400 is your best pick of the two<br />
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However, if you can get your hands on a good stepping Opty 165, then definately get it. Those CPUs are known to be able to hit 3.0GHz, which cannot be as easily said of the 170. However, a good stepping is a must. A bad stepping will still clock very well though.
 

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Is the 165 dual core? I don't really know the nomenclature for Optys. I really want to upgrade to dual core, and these seemed the best bets, and the 170 was the cheapest dual core Opty I could find.
 

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Yes the 165 is dual core, CCBBE is one of the best steppings and I've heard of most of them getting to 3ghz on air. The other steppings however do OC well and its certainly an option if you want to save some money.
 

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Would I need to look on EBay for that 165? Not sure I want to buy a CPU second hand through EBay... I'd rather get it from newegg or tiger direct unless it's truly worth the risk.
 

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Just not sure when they get back in stock:<br />
<a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103588" target="_blank">http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103588</a><br />
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Or on tiger:<br />
<a href="http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1649747" target="_blank">http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...?EdpNo=1649747</a>
 
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I saw the 165 only has a 9x multiplier, would that be a significant drawback when OCing? Do the 170 or the 4400+ have higher multipliers, making for easier OCing?
 

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now, couple the 165 with ddr500 ram and at 250 fsb they are 1:1 and at stock timmings for the memory <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smile.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="Smile">
 

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Wasn't really looking at upgrading anymore than the CPU and the Video Card, and looking for a nice cheap (under $500) upgrade before I decide to go AM2 or Core 2. The processors I've looked at have been around $200-250, as have the video cards, so I'm not going to buy new RAM.<br><br>
lol, just realized you were telling me to pretty much buy your exact rig, lol.
 

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The 170 and 4400+ might be a little easier with your RAM, but with some luck the 165 reaches higher clock speeds (depends on stepping). Just put your RAM on a bit of a divider (which like you need to do with the other CPUs also) and enjoy thata CPU.
 

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Well I found out that the 4400+ has an 11x multiplier, and the 170 has a 10x. I think I just want the 11x mult, just so I can play around with it a little more.<br><br>
Thanks for all of the help, guys, especially you Chozart. Your knowledge of everything never ceases to amaze me.
 
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