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for about $300 i would get the athlon 64 x2 3800, the opteron are too expensive and i think it is use more for servers.

Ya either the 3800+ x2 or opteron 165, which 939.

Anyone heard anything about the 165? does it overclock as well as a 3000+?
 

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Only thing that would keey me away from the Opteron is the 165 only has a x9 multiplier, so overclocking could be a little more difficult, while the 3800+ X2 has a x10 multiplier. A 170 or 175 are the ideal chips because they have x10 and x11 multiplier respectively.
 

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Only thing that would keey me away from the Opteron is the 165 only has a x9 multiplier, so overclocking could be a little more difficult, while the 3800+ X2 has a x10 multiplier. A 170 or 175 are the ideal chips because they have x10 and x11 multiplier respectively.

But most top out about 2.7ish anyway so why not get the 165 and oc it to 2.7?

or are they not that good overclockers?
 

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But most top out about 2.7ish anyway so why not get the 165 and oc it to 2.7?

or are they not that good overclockers?

Cause then you gotta run 300x9 instead of 270x10 or whatever, which means you either need to have really good RAM or spend some timing messing around with different multipliers and dividers. And hope you have a board that can run 300HTT or higher.
 

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Cause then you gotta run 300x9 instead of 270x10 or whatever, which means you either need to have really good RAM or spend some timing messing around with different multipliers and dividers. And hope you have a board that can run 300HTT or higher.


I'm pretty sure my board can, but I have never tried that much of an overclock.
 

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I'm pretty sure my board can, but I have never tried that much of an overclock.

Easy way to find out
Drop the CPU multiplier to like x8 and put the memory on a 2:1 divider and see how high it'll go
 

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Originally Posted by YiffyGriffy

Easy way to find out
Drop the CPU multiplier to like x8 and put the memory on a 2:1 divider and see how high it'll go


I ment for my future overclocking adventures
Found a sweet spot with this one already.

Just thinking about upgrading and not sure what(or even if) i should get.
 

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I ment for my future overclocking adventures
Found a sweet spot with this one already.

Just thinking about upgrading and not sure what(or even if) i should get.

Kinda in the same boat, planning upgrades for if and when...
I'm trying to decide between an X2 4400+ or a cheaper Opteron alternative though...
 

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S939 Opterons are basically locked and under-clocked FX chips...I would DEFINITELY get one over the mainstream X2. Sure, mine overclocks pretty good, but i'm willing to bet that a dual-core Opteron can run 2.8+ all day, as opposed to my 2.6.
 

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S939 Opterons are basically locked and under-clocked FX chips...I would DEFINITELY get one over the mainstream X2. Sure, mine overclocks pretty good, but i'm willing to bet that a dual-core Opteron can run 2.8+ all day, as opposed to my 2.6.

That's not entirely accurate. Not all Opterons are overclocking beasts, in fact it might even be safe to say the majority aren't. It's dependant on which stepping you get, which is just luck of the draw unless you can hand pick the chip off the retail shelf. I haven't really heard much of spectacular overclocks with the Opterons, while there are some 3800+ X2 overclocks out there that are quite impressive. Now that said, it may be in your best interest to get the Opteron because it seems like the chances of getting a good one are higher than those of getting a good X2, but you can't and shouldn't expect it to be monster overclocker.
 

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Originally Posted by YiffyGriffy

That's not entirely accurate. Not all Opterons are overclocking beasts, in fact it might even be safe to say the majority aren't. It's dependant on which stepping you get, which is just luck of the draw unless you can hand pick the chip off the retail shelf. I haven't really heard much of spectacular overclocks with the Opterons, while there are some 3800+ X2 overclocks out there that are quite impressive. Now that said, it may be in your best interest to get the Opteron because it seems like the chances of getting a good one are higher than those of getting a good X2, but you can't and shouldn't expect it to be monster overclocker.

I'm guessing you haven't seen the xtremesystems forums. Pretty much everyone there gets 3.0Ghz+ on air or water. Same with all the big OC'ers at Pimprig. I haven't seen a socket 939 Opteron that doesn't OC well.

Think about it...they have to be more solid because they are marketed towards server work. That means lots of stress, and that means choice silicon.

I'm sure there's a dud here and there...it's like that with everything.
 

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I'm guessing you haven't seen the xtremesystems forums. Pretty much everyone there gets 3.0Ghz+ on air or water. Same with all the big OC'ers at Pimprig. I haven't seen a socket 939 Opteron that doesn't OC well.

Think about it...they have to be more solid because they are marketed towards server work. That means lots of stress, and that means choice silicon.

I'm sure there's a dud here and there...it's like that with everything.

Well that's Xtremesystems and Pimprig, good for them. There have been several members here that got "duds." They don't overclock bad per se, there just wasn't much 3GHz on air or water going on. I got lucky, my Opteron does 2.8GHz on stock voltage on basically stock cooling. But go ask Mr. Mummbles what he thought of his Opteron...
I'm not saying the Opterons don't overclock well, I'm ecstatic with mine, I'm just saying don't count on it being a 3GHz+ chip because not all of them are. Call me a pesimist, I say I'm just a realist, and I'd hate to start bouting off about how all Opterons do 3GHz on air, then some poor guy spends his hard-earned money on one and gets a dud. Gotta take everything you read on the Internet with a couple pinches of salt, there's always exceptions, and they're often the things you don't read about.
 

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Do the DFI nF4 mobos support opterons?

Not "officially" i.e. DFI doesn't officially provide support for them, but they will work since they're Socket 939 processors.
 

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Since newegg wont be having the A8n32 in stock till the 31st i was considering going with the A8n SLI-premium. My question is will my system be able to boot up with an opteron 170 processor without a bios update when I first build the system. If not should I go with the x2?

This is what im ordering right now as we speak

320gb 16m WD hard drive
EVGA 7800GT
Antec True power 550w
G.Skill pc 4000 2gb
NEC DVD-RW
 
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