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Cool Thanks for the info. I will have to sign up for the card. I really am trying hard not to go into debt, but I think I can pay this all at once once I sell stuff etc. Anyway, thx
 

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Hold on mates, did you not notice these chips are designed to work with Intel 3000 and 3010 server class chipset? Did any single one of you ever tested if the chip boots in 965/975 board???? I can tell you for sure you r never gonna get a server board with any overclocking option.
 

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found this fellas


All I can say is buy it and then cry about less cache to the seller




maybe they haven't got Xeon 30** support yet. Notice that it still says E6400 and has the Core 2 Duo logo.
 

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To clarify your ram question, cheap DDR2 533 runs a 1:1 divider at stock settings with Conroe cpus (266fsb x 2 = 533mhz).

DDR2 667, or DDR2 675 would be good up to a 333mhz/338mhz FSB respectivley. Anything higher would result in overclocking your ram (which is fine by all means....some DDR2 667 & 675 is notorious for clocking up to DDR2 800 speeds). But hey, you can always run dividers if you decide to go over the 340FSB mark and memory doesn't overclock well.

Because DDR2 800 is so damn expensive now, I'd just get a quality set of DDR2 667 or 675.
 

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found this fellas


All I can say is buy it and then cry about less cache to the seller



States that it is an allendale core. The Xeon 30** are conroe cores according to newegg and intel
 

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A bit of bad news


I called Intel just now and according to them the clock speed is locked


Also, an Intel server board must be used


Dashed my hopes all over the floor just now.... oh well
 

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A bit of bad news


I called Intel just now and according to them the clock speed is locked


Also, an Intel server board must be used


Dashed my hopes all over the floor just now.... oh well

well, good thing you called first before you bought it. Get a e6300 if your on budget, it's faster than my 4400 on stock speeds. Or a e6600 for the 2 extra mb of cache if you got the cash.
 

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Yeah sorry to ehar that too, well good li=uck with an uber gaming rig.
 

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Well the Xeon build might still be on! The lady I spoke with on the phone might have been confused because she told me to look for information on the intel website. The information she told me to look for was only available for the sckt771 chips aka the 50** Xeon series. There was not any compatability information for the Xeon 30** series as she suggested. I will have to research it more, but this might still be a possibility.
 

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It's worth a shot man, if it doesn't, go B**** at Intel and say you got bad info that it would work with normal 775 and make them give you a quad core.
 
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In regards to the thread starter posting in the thread about Core 2 Duo help I will come and help this thread.
Already seen some flaws here, however I am only going to correct one technicality, you may sort the remains out yourselves


Previously mentioned in the thread was a statement that resembled that the desktop and server processors used identical instruction sets. To a degree this statement is incorrect.

Each processor does contain the following advanced processing level instruction sets:
SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3 (Supplemental), MMX, x86-64.

The grouping directive to comply with IA-32 is however slightly different.
x87 Floating Point Instruction - Same
SIMD Integer Instruction - Different
SIMD Floating Point Instructions - Different

These are the two main differences between the desktop and server variants of the Core Micro-architecture.

x87 Floating Point Instruction - A single instruction that improves x87 FPU floating point to integer conversions. This is identical to remaining Intel architectures i.e. Netburst.

SIMD Integer Instruction - One instruction that provides a specialised 128-bit unaligned data load.
With The Xeon based architecture the ability of this instruction is greater. Often more complex based instructions are interfaced with this ability for mathematical arithmetic and logic processing. These instructions can either be 32 or 64 bit designed.

SIMD Floating-Point Instructions - Three instructions that enhance LOAD/MOVE/DUPLICATE performance.
Two instructions that provide packed addition/subtraction.
Four instructions that provide horizontal addition/subtraction.

Again these are capable of interfacing with other advanced complex instructions. Including decoded x86-64 complex instructions.

I know this is far beyond overclockers knowledge but still it does show you that a Xeon is capable of working with mathematical instructions much better. However as the Xeon is capable of doing this it is less capable of using SIMD level instruction sets for game interfacing as the instructions have an advanced mathematical base, not physics/geometry.
 

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Wow. I had to re-read it but thanks for all the good info!

I guess this would post some nice superpi times and fold like a fiend! And I doubt the game performance would suffer much. From what you say it is only slightly more specialized for data processing.
 

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Originally Posted by The_Manual

In regards to the thread starter posting in the thread about Core 2 Duo help I will come and help this thread.
Already seen some flaws here, however I am only going to correct one technicality, you may sort the remains out yourselves


Previously mentioned in the thread was a statement that resembled that the desktop and server processors used identical instruction sets. To a degree this statement is incorrect.

Each processor does contain the following advanced processing level instruction sets:
SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3 (Supplemental), MMX, x86-64.

The grouping directive to comply with IA-32 is however slightly different.
x87 Floating Point Instruction - Same
SIMD Integer Instruction - Different
SIMD Floating Point Instructions - Different

These are the two main differences between the desktop and server variants of the Core Micro-architecture.

x87 Floating Point Instruction - A single instruction that improves x87 FPU floating point to integer conversions. This is identical to remaining Intel architectures i.e. Netburst.

SIMD Integer Instruction - One instruction that provides a specialised 128-bit unaligned data load.
With The Xeon based architecture the ability of this instruction is greater. Often more complex based instructions are interfaced with this ability for mathematical arithmetic and logic processing. These instructions can either be 32 or 64 bit designed.

SIMD Floating-Point Instructions - Three instructions that enhance LOAD/MOVE/DUPLICATE performance.
Two instructions that provide packed addition/subtraction.
Four instructions that provide horizontal addition/subtraction.

Again these are capable of interfacing with other advanced complex instructions. Including decoded x86-64 complex instructions.

I know this is far beyond overclockers knowledge but still it does show you that a Xeon is capable of working with mathematical instructions much better. However as the Xeon is capable of doing this it is less capable of using SIMD level instruction sets for game interfacing as the instructions have an advanced mathematical base, not physics/geometry.

Where the crap is your REP+ Button?

Hey wait.... Wheres mine???

Awesome info bro
 

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The_Manual: If it's just a regular Conroe core, would all that Woodcrest stuff apply? It should be exactly the same, instructions and all.
 

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Technically from the outside these processors are identical.

If we were to run "multiple" Floating Point Integer tests for example the scores of these two processors would be just about identical.

However due to additional interfacing ability Xeon's have always been able to outstrip a desktop based processor at mathematical calculations. It is the same in this case also with Conroe vs. Woodcrest (and equivalent).

Xeon's are based (instruction/algorithm/thread) around processing mathematical and numerical data at speeds above that of their desktop counterparts regardless of clock speed (to a degree).

Conroe and Woodcrest are “identical†apart from the slight tweaking of instructions
 

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SYSTEM ORDERED!!!!!! WOOO HOOOO!!!!!


Here is what I got:

Mobo: ASUS P5W DH DELUXE/WIFI-AP
CPU: INTEL|XEON 3060 775 2.4G 4M
GPU(s): XFX GF7950GT 2 of them
RAM: 2x 1gb CORSAIR pc8500
HDD: 150G|WD 10K 16M SATA
PSU: ROSEWILL|RP600S-2MK 600W (modular)
Sound: CREATIVE SB Audigy 4
Case: Antec p180

Cooling = stock for now, will upgrade to TEC w/liquid
 
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