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yes, Im shcoking, for rendering and mostly heavy multitasking best CPU in desktop
 

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Am I reading that link wrong or the next milestone in scores is 56 cores instead of 88 like you claim?
 

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Am I reading that link wrong or the next milestone in scores is 56 cores instead of 88 like you claim?
Ahh your right, my brain read that wrong haha, still, thats almost double the cores/threads for 300 points more.
 

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World record by a 32 core CPU which is great, but in the general rankings it's a fifth place, with the first four still occupied by Intel's Xeons, although using more than one CPU to get the record.

So, the question is, why doesn't AMD claim those four spots by using two or four EPYC CPUs? The first spot was achieved by using four 24 core Skylake Xeon Platinum CPUs, the second by using four 22 core Broadwell Xeons, third place by using two 28 core Intel Skylake Xeons Platinum and fourth place by using four 24 core Broadwell Xeons.

Is it me or AMD can easily take those four spots? When people start seeing as many categories as possible with the top spots filled with AMD products, people won't be able to ignore them. Mindshare is a thing.
 

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OOOMMMGGG thats HUGE!!!!

If you look at the rankings, this score is the highest until you hit 88 core CPU's category, yet its only a 32 core.
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebench_-_r15/
DAMN!!!!!!


Poor Intel
Poor Intel? Their 28 core Cascade Lake hit 5Ghz with a chiller. Just wait until the release of their 28 core beast and I'm sure it will take the record back.
 

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World record by a 32 core CPU which is great, but in the general rankings it's a fifth place, with the first four still occupied by Intel's Xeons, although using more than one CPU to get the record.

So, the question is, why doesn't AMD claim those four spots by using two or four EPYC CPUs? The first spot was achieved by using four 24 core Skylake Xeon Platinum CPUs, the second by using four 22 core Broadwell Xeons, third place by using two 28 core Intel Skylake Xeons Platinum and fourth place by using four 24 core Broadwell Xeons.

Is it me or AMD can easily take those four spots? When people start seeing as many categories as possible with the top spots filled with AMD products, people won't be able to ignore them. Mindshare is a thing.
EPYC Ryzen+ hasn't been released yet. When it is, I am sure some overclockers will get their hands on two or four and break the record.

Keep in mind that this is an overclocked CPU. On a multi socket board, you won't be able to reach any where near those clock speeds on each socket and core. Still probably enough to break the record though. It will be interesting to see if intel's 28 core xeons end up faster at the end of it.
 

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EPYC Ryzen+ hasn't been released yet. When it is, I am sure some overclockers will get their hands on two or four and break the record.

Keep in mind that this is an overclocked CPU. On a multi socket board, you won't be able to reach any where near those clock speeds on each socket and core. Still probably enough to break the record though. It will be interesting to see if intel's 28 core xeons end up faster at the end of it.

But they are not going to release Zen+ in EPYC form, they will jump straight to 7nm Zen 2 and will have it be released firs in EPYC form.

On the other thand, the dies in first Zen TR and EPYC already have the L2 cache latency improvements and the IPC difference is then probably lower than 3%, so why not attempt to get the record on first gen EPYC?

The original 1800X was clocked on LN2 at 5.36 Ghz and completed a Cinebench run at that speed (der8auer even managed to boot one (only) higher, at 5.8 Ghz), so why not clock some EPYCs right now, even if only watercooled (like the Xeon Platinum 8180M result), and get those records?

Maybe they are saving it for Zen 2.
 

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Poor Intel? Their 28 core Cascade Lake hit 5Ghz with a chiller. Just wait until the release of their 28 core beast and I'm sure it will take the record back.
That wasn't exactly a retail chip or even something you can buy. In any case, the Intel Core i9 7980XE 18-core maxes out at around 5.6Ghz on LN2 looking at the world records. So the proof-of-concept 28-core might do 5.4Ghz. The TR2 World Record was set with a frequency of 5.38Ghz and the 2990WX has more cores/threads, so I'm not sure it will.
 

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Poor Intel? Their 28 core Cascade Lake hit 5Ghz with a chiller. Just wait until the release of their 28 core beast and I'm sure it will take the record back.
Intel Troll much???

Yes it hit 5Ghz, on a chiller because it has cold bugs when going lower, so it cannot much higher than that.
Besides, it hit 5Ghz, but ummm... is over 1200 points lower. Thats no small difference.
 

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That wasn't exactly a retail chip or even something you can buy. In any case, the Intel Core i9 7980XE 18-core maxes out at around 5.6Ghz on LN2 looking at the world records. So the proof-of-concept 28-core might do 5.4Ghz. The TR2 World Record was set with a frequency of 5.38Ghz and the 2990WX has more cores/threads, so I'm not sure it will.
http://hwbot.org/submission/3738239_splave_cinebench___r15_core_i9_7980xe_5828_cb

Skylake was never a decent overclocker but on ln2 5.8Ghz was successfully benchmarked on all 18 cores. We haven't seen Cascade lake in any action beside scoring 7,344 at 5Ghz using a chiller.

Intel Troll much???

Yes it hit 5Ghz, on a chiller because it has cold bugs when going lower, so it cannot much higher than that.
Besides, it hit 5Ghz, but ummm... is over 1200 points lower. Thats no small difference.
Sorry I'm being realistic, Intel has the best fabrication process in the world. They have the best mix of IPC, frequency and thanks to AMD core ount. Intel is taking their time with Cascade Lake to make sure spectre hardware mitigations are builtin. Unlike AMD who's delaying hardware mitigations until Zen 2. You get what you pay for when paying the extra for Intel.

https://semiengineering.com/nodes-vs-node-lets/
 

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http://hwbot.org/submission/3738239_splave_cinebench___r15_core_i9_7980xe_5828_cb

Skylake was never a decent overclocker but on ln2 5.8Ghz was successfully benchmarked on all 18 cores. We haven't seen Cascade lake in any action beside scoring 7,344 at 5Ghz using a chiller.
Your screenshot is wrong:
Intel 28c Demo @ 5.0Ghz : 7334 cb
AMD 2990WX @ 5.387Ghz : 8532 cb
AMD has a 400mhz advantage(say 8%, being generous here)
That would still leave intel at around 8000 cb if the 28core Demo can clock to 5.4Ghz.

AMD's CPU have often clocked better than Intels under LN2 due to intels cold bug so i would be hesitant to think the Intel 28core can get to 5.4 easily but who knows..its not even out yet. In fact we have very little known info on it other than a single run where the AMD chip is out in the market to buy for anyone...
Intel squirming yet again to have a competitive product out.

This is just more great news for us, the consumers, to have 2 big companies fighting it out for the performance king
 

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Your screenshot is wrong:
Intel 28c Demo @ 5.0Ghz : 7334 cb
AMD 2990WX @ 5.387Ghz : 8532 cb
AMD has a 400mhz advantage(say 8%, being generous here)
That would still leave intel at around 8000 cb if the 28core Demo gets 5.4Ghz.

Only AMD generation that clocked better than Intel's were Bulldozer/Piledriver. https://valid.x86.fr/records.html

My screenshot is correct. AMD's 2990wx with 4 extra is 3.88% faster with a 100mhz faster overclock.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/6274...-2990wx-5-1ghz-thrashes-intel-hedt/index.html
 

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No points on the sub since the Bot isn't letting you sub Win10 scores on Ryzen.
 

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Only AMD generation that clocked better than Intel's were Bulldozer/Piledriver. https://valid.x86.fr/records.html

My screenshot is correct. AMD's 2990wx with 4 extra is 3.88% faster with a 100mhz faster overclock.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/6274...-2990wx-5-1ghz-thrashes-intel-hedt/index.html
Its not true:

Phenom II was king of OC, first modern chip who hit 7 GHz
After the OC was similar (Sandy limit were 5.5-6 GHz with LN2, Phenoms II 6.3-7.1 GHz, Thubans 6.5-6.9 GHz, Buzlldozer 7-8 GHz, Ivy Bridge 6-6.8 GHz, Vishera 7.5-8.6 GHz, Haswell 6-6.8 GHz, Haswell-E 5.5-6.3 GHz, Skylake 6-7 GHz, Broadwell-E 5-5.6 GHz, Kaby Lake 6.2-7.2 GHz, Ryzen Summit Ridge 5-5.6 GHz, Threadripper 4.9-5.3 GHz, Skylake-X 5.5-6.1 GHz, Coffee Lake 6.2-7.2 GHz, Pinnacle Ridge 5.3-5.9 GHz)

Big chip are always harder to OC for high clocks/hard behcmarks. Cascade Lake is Skylake-X architecture with mesh etc inside, so OC will be very similar as todays 7980XE. Thats mean max around 5.8 GHz with hardly binned chip. Average between 5-5.4 GHz with LN2.
 

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Its not true:

Phenom II was king of OC, first modern chip who hit 7 GHz
After the OC was similar (Sandy limit were 5.5-6 GHz with LN2, Phenoms II 6.3-7.1 GHz, Thubans 6.5-6.9 GHz, Buzlldozer 7-8 GHz, Ivy Bridge 6-6.8 GHz, Vishera 7.5-8.6 GHz, Haswell 6-6.8 GHz, Haswell-E 5.5-6.3 GHz, Skylake 6-7 GHz, Broadwell-E 5-5.6 GHz, Kaby Lake 6.2-7.2 GHz, Ryzen Summit Ridge 5-5.6 GHz, Threadripper 4.9-5.3 GHz, Skylake-X 5.5-6.1 GHz, Coffee Lake 6.2-7.2 GHz, Pinnacle Ridge 5.3-5.9 GHz)

Big chip are always harder to OC for high clocks/hard behcmarks. Cascade Lake is Skylake-X architecture with mesh etc inside, so OC will be very similar as todays 7980XE. Thats mean max around 5.8 GHz with hardly binned chip. Average between 5-5.4 GHz with LN2.
Did you even look at the CPUID validations? https://valid.x86.fr/records.html Cascade lake is a new architecture not Skylake-X. Even then, Skylake-X was a great overclocker unlike Skylake.

http://hwbot.org/submission/3666736_zer0_dan__cpu_frequency_core_i9_7980xe_6232.04_mhz
http://hwbot.org/submission/3664522_toppc_cpu_frequency_ryzen_threadripper_1950x_5496.75_mhz
 

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