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This video explains what' been going on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_dNRtLFR9I

This is the statement from the mod dev team:
ElDewrito’s 0.6 update has been everything we could have hoped for and so much more. The community response and support we have been given has been exciting, humbling, above all, appreciated. We have poured our hearts and souls into this game, and you have been the best community we could have asked for.
Unfortunately, 343 Industries and Microsoft have noticed it’s success, and have reached out to us regarding potential legal action, and have requested we temporarily halt development.
You can view their article and statement here: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/eldewrito-community-content
Microsoft had this to say about 0.6′s release.
“While we are humbled and inspired to see the amount of passion poured into this project, the fact remains that it’s built upon Microsoft-owned assets that were never lawfully released or authorized for this purpose. As this project reverberated across the community, our team took a step back to assess the materials and explore possible avenues, while Microsoft, like any company, has a responsibility to protect its IP, code and trademarks. It’s not optional in other words. “

“BTW, we’re not “shutting down the mod” or going after the Eldewrito crew - we’re enacting action to remove the Halo Online code and packages from places it’s being hosted.. “

There was no Cease and Desist, no DMCA, just an brief conversation about what they suggest we do.
What does this mean for the future of ElDewrito?
To be completely honest, we do not know the answer to this question yet. Our conversation with 343 was very brief. Since ElDewrito itself is simply an open source mod and not a Microsoft asset, the mod itself will not be taken down. However, it appears that any Microsoft assets required to play the game (MS23 builds, Full 0.6 game zips, ect) will likely be taken down by Microsoft. All we know is that have been told to temporarily halt development until more information is available, and we must honor this request. During this time, please do not make threats or harass 343 Industries.
Can We Still Play 0.6?
Yes, absolutely! Play the hell out of it. Create more incredible forge creations. You can resume playing 0.6 as normal. It is important to note that ElDewrito itself is not being taken down - just any and all of Microsoft’s assets are. In the meantime, enjoy the great game that we have poured our hearts into.
The number of people that have played 0.6 has blown us away. At the time of writing this post, there are over 8000 players playing. Here are some cool facts about the stats recorded in just 4 days of playing 0.6.
source

Long story short, There was a Russian free to play halo MP only game that flopped, the dev team released some related dev tools around the time of the flop, and the community used it to make this Halo Online game. Microsoft is required to issue a cease a desist, it is not within their power to ignore this based on their legal obligations to protect their IP, yet the game is still playable and still downloadable if you get the unfinished version and the mod update separately. I will not issue instructions here, but they are on the Eldowrito DL page.
 

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I apologize that this was double posted. Please fix.
 

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Nicely done Microsoft. If they don't do stuff like this, it's hard for them to fight other infringements in the future. So, for them to nicely define their restrictions and what they can still do is really cool. It could be like the pokemon game, where they just filed a DMCA and that's it.
 

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HO 0.6 is Fantastic!
 

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Nicely done Microsoft. If they don't do stuff like this, it's hard for them to fight other infringements in the future. So, for them to nicely define their restrictions and what they can still do is really cool. It could be like the pokemon game, where they just filed a DMCA and that's it.
This is a much better take than, like, 90% of the subreddit the past few days lol. Not even being sarcastic, it's pretty dumb over there. :thumb:

Remember, the devs never received a formal cease and desist, though they have been informally requested to pause work. They are allowed to - or rather, they are not explicitly not allowed to - continue work on the mod. Microsoft has done the bare minimum to protect their IP, namely the various Halo trademarks. Copyrighted assets would still be protected regardless of the takedown though; "abandonware" is not a thing as far as copyright law is concerned.
 

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Nicely done Microsoft. If they don't do stuff like this, it's hard for them to fight other infringements in the future. So, for them to nicely define their restrictions and what they can still do is really cool. It could be like the pokemon game, where they just filed a DMCA and that's it.
This is basically the issue, as it stands companies must go after copyright infringement or risk setting a precedent, but even bad publicity is good publicity. There must be a way to grant access to copyrighted assets on a temporary/project basis.
 

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Just remember that the game itself is not shutdown and that you can still play it just like before all this talk of legality began. Microsoft has done what they needed to do, but nothing has actually happened to the game itself. It is just a tiny bit harder to find now.
 

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You can still play the game, servers will be up. Just have to download else where instead of their official servers.
 

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Microsoft isn't shutting down the project, they're just saying "Hey, you can't use our code and our assets. Not cool." Which is, to be entirely honest, completely fair. They've basically said that if the ElDorito team could find a way to replace all of Microsoft's code and assets, even if it functioned identically, then they would have a green light.

A perfect example is Installation 01, which is literally calling itself a "Fan-made Halo game" and is copying assets from the actual Halo games, but they're still being built from the ground up and thus are not identical. Microsoft knows about it, and fully endorses it when not many companies would.
 
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