Just got a 3570K, will start testing in some hours. I'll disable HT on a 2600k to do some comparison runs.
Will be using water first, then chilled water and then some LN2 in a couple of days.
Testing rig:
Cpu
3570K, 3770K (ETA Wednesday 18th), 2600K
Motherboard
Asus Maximus V Gene 0701 bios
Ram
Comparison done on Gskill 1600Mhz 6-9-6-24 @ 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24
Cooling
Custom loop, dual HwLabs GTX360 GT-15 Push-Pull 10-15c ambient.
Temporary update:
Performance Comparison
Other Benchmark results (3570K, 3770K HT On 4.9Ghz / 5Ghz)
Thermal Testing
My thoughts around Ivy Bridge.
LN2 runs
Will be using water first, then chilled water and then some LN2 in a couple of days.
Testing rig:
Cpu
3570K, 3770K (ETA Wednesday 18th), 2600K
Motherboard
Asus Maximus V Gene 0701 bios
Ram
Comparison done on Gskill 1600Mhz 6-9-6-24 @ 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24
Cooling
Custom loop, dual HwLabs GTX360 GT-15 Push-Pull 10-15c ambient.
Temporary update:
Performance Comparison
3DMark 11
3DMark Vantage
CineBench.
Super Pi mod1.5 XS
Wprime 1.55
Wprime 2.09
Handbrake
Summarize - Improvements from Sandy bridge to Ivy Bridge
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.4Ghz (stock)
CPU Score
Run 1: 6423
Run 2: 6481
Run 3: 6429
Average: 6444.3
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 6411
Run 2: 6392
Run 3: 6386
Average: 6396.3
Improvement from SB to IB: 48P = 0.75%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 8059
Run 2: 8041
Run 3: 8095
Average: 8065
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 7728
Run 2: 7700
Run 3: 7696
Average: 7708.0
Improvement from SB to IB: 357P = 4.63%
CPU Score
Run 1: 6423
Run 2: 6481
Run 3: 6429
Average: 6444.3
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 6411
Run 2: 6392
Run 3: 6386
Average: 6396.3
Improvement from SB to IB: 48P = 0.75%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 8059
Run 2: 8041
Run 3: 8095
Average: 8065
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 7728
Run 2: 7700
Run 3: 7696
Average: 7708.0
Improvement from SB to IB: 357P = 4.63%
3DMark Vantage
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.4Ghz (stock)
CPU Score
Run 1: 18903
Run 2: 18579
Run 3: 18905
Average: 18795.3
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 18233
Run 2: 18192
Run 3: 18068
Average: 18164.3
Improvement from SB to IB: 631P = 3.47%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 24752
Run 2: 24709
Run 3: 24810
Average: 24757.0
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 23721
Run 2: 23781
Run 3: 23532
Average: 23711.3
Improvement from SB to IB: 1045,7P = 4.41%
CPU Score
Run 1: 18903
Run 2: 18579
Run 3: 18905
Average: 18795.3
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 18233
Run 2: 18192
Run 3: 18068
Average: 18164.3
Improvement from SB to IB: 631P = 3.47%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 24752
Run 2: 24709
Run 3: 24810
Average: 24757.0
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
CPU Score
Run 1: 23721
Run 2: 23781
Run 3: 23532
Average: 23711.3
Improvement from SB to IB: 1045,7P = 4.41%
CineBench.
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.4Ghz (stock)
Score: 5.67P
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
Score: 5.43P
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.24P = 4.41%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF@ 4.5Ghz
Score: 7.47P
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 7.09P
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.38P = 5.35%
Score: 5.67P
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
Score: 5.43P
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.24P = 4.41%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF@ 4.5Ghz
Score: 7.47P
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 7.09P
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.38P = 5.35%
Super Pi mod1.5 XS
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.4Ghz (stock)
32m - 10m 00.469sec (600.46 sec)
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
32m - 10m 21.443sec (621.44 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 20.98sec = 3.37%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
32m - 08m 01.261sec (481.26 sec)
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
32m - 08m 14.989sec (494.98 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 13.72sec = 2.77%
32m - 10m 00.469sec (600.46 sec)
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
32m - 10m 21.443sec (621.44 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 20.98sec = 3.37%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
32m - 08m 01.261sec (481.26 sec)
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
32m - 08m 14.989sec (494.98 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 13.72sec = 2.77%
Wprime 1.55
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.4Ghz (stock)
Run 1: 8.766 sec
Run 2: 8.766 sec
Run 3: 8.766 sec
Average: 8.766 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
Run 1: 9.205 sec
Run 2: 9.205 sec
Run 3: 9.205 sec
Average: 9.205 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.439 sec = 4.76%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 6.645 sec
Run 2: 6.645 sec
Run 3: 6.645 sec
Average: 6.645 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 6.941 sec
Run 2: 6.941 sec
Run 3: 6.941 sec
Average: 6.941 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.296 sec = 4.26%
Run 1: 8.766 sec
Run 2: 8.766 sec
Run 3: 8.766 sec
Average: 8.766 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
Run 1: 9.205 sec
Run 2: 9.205 sec
Run 3: 9.205 sec
Average: 9.205 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.439 sec = 4.76%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 6.645 sec
Run 2: 6.645 sec
Run 3: 6.645 sec
Average: 6.645 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 6.941 sec
Run 2: 6.941 sec
Run 3: 6.941 sec
Average: 6.941 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.296 sec = 4.26%
Wprime 2.09
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.4Ghz (stock)
Run 1: 10.639 sec
Run 2: 10.638 sec
Run 3: 10.640 sec
Average: 10.639 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
Run 1: 11.138 sec
Run 2: 11.171 sec
Run 3: 11.186 sec
Average: 11.165 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.526 sec = 4.71%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 8.142 sec
Run 2: 8.096 sec
Run 3: 8.095 sec
Average: 8.111 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 8.439 sec
Run 2: 8.455 sec
Run 3: 8.439 sec
Average: 8.444 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.333 sec = 3.94%
Run 1: 10.639 sec
Run 2: 10.638 sec
Run 3: 10.640 sec
Average: 10.639 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz
Run 1: 11.138 sec
Run 2: 11.171 sec
Run 3: 11.186 sec
Average: 11.165 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.526 sec = 4.71%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 8.142 sec
Run 2: 8.096 sec
Run 3: 8.095 sec
Average: 8.111 sec
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz
Run 1: 8.439 sec
Run 2: 8.455 sec
Run 3: 8.439 sec
Average: 8.444 sec
Improvement from SB to IB: 0.333 sec = 3.94%
Handbrake
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 3.4Ghz (stock) = 13m 09sec (789 sec)
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz = 14m 12sec (852 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 1m 03sec (63 sec) = 7.39%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz = 10m 14sec (614 sec)
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz = 11m 08sec (668 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 54sec = 8.08%
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 3.4Ghz = 14m 12sec (852 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 1m 03sec (63 sec) = 7.39%
Ivy Bridge 3770K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz = 10m 14sec (614 sec)
Sandy Bridge 2600K HT OFF @ 4.5Ghz = 11m 08sec (668 sec)
Improvement from SB to IB: 54sec = 8.08%
Summarize - Improvements from Sandy bridge to Ivy Bridge
3DMark 11.
3.4Ghz - 0.75% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 4.63% Improvement
3DMark Vantage
3.4Ghz - 3.47% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 4.41% Improvement
CineBench
3.4Ghz - 4.41% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 5.35% Improvement
SuperPi 32M
3.4Ghz - 3.37% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 2.77% Improvement
Wprime 1.55
3.4Ghz - 4.76% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 4.26% Improvement
Wprime 2.09
3.4Ghz - 4.71% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 3.94% Improvement
Handbrake
3.4Ghz - 7.39% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 8.08% Improvement
Note: Later tests have shown that 3770K HT OFF is ~1% faster then a 3570K at the same clocks in all tests but CineBench (Due to 2Mb extra L3 Cache), so the 3.4Ghz comparison is not 100% correct ATM. Will be updated later.
3.4Ghz - 0.75% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 4.63% Improvement
3DMark Vantage
3.4Ghz - 3.47% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 4.41% Improvement
CineBench
3.4Ghz - 4.41% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 5.35% Improvement
SuperPi 32M
3.4Ghz - 3.37% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 2.77% Improvement
Wprime 1.55
3.4Ghz - 4.76% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 4.26% Improvement
Wprime 2.09
3.4Ghz - 4.71% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 3.94% Improvement
Handbrake
3.4Ghz - 7.39% Improvement
4.5Ghz - 8.08% Improvement
Note: Later tests have shown that 3770K HT OFF is ~1% faster then a 3570K at the same clocks in all tests but CineBench (Due to 2Mb extra L3 Cache), so the 3.4Ghz comparison is not 100% correct ATM. Will be updated later.
Other Benchmark results (3570K, 3770K HT On 4.9Ghz / 5Ghz)
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 7.47P
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
32m - 08m 05.002sec (485.00 sec)
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 6.691 sec
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 8.185 sec
Ivy Bridge 3770K @ 4.9Ghz
Cpu Score: 34523
Score: 9.86
Ivy Bridge 3770K @ 5Ghz
Score: 4.772 sec
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 7.47P
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
32m - 08m 05.002sec (485.00 sec)
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 6.691 sec
Ivy Bridge 3570K @ 4.5Ghz
Score: 8.185 sec
Ivy Bridge 3770K @ 4.9Ghz
Cpu Score: 34523
Score: 9.86
Ivy Bridge 3770K @ 5Ghz
Score: 4.772 sec
Thermal Testing
Cooling
Custom loop, dual HwLabs GTX360 GT-15 Push-Pull, Dual Laing D5 @ Setting 5 = 285 L/H (1.255 GPM) 10-15c ambient.
All results are in Celsius, load done with Prime95.
@ 1.1V IB runs 4,25C hotter then SB with HT off. (16.03%)
@ 1.2V IB runs 10,75C hotter then SB with HT off. (36.44%)
@ 1.3V IB runs 15,00C hotter then SB with HT off. (44.11%)
@ 1.4V IB runs 24,75C hotter then SB with HT off. (65.56%)
Note, start temps (Idle) on 3570K is not showing correct values on core 2,3 and 4
Custom loop, dual HwLabs GTX360 GT-15 Push-Pull, Dual Laing D5 @ Setting 5 = 285 L/H (1.255 GPM) 10-15c ambient.
All results are in Celsius, load done with Prime95.
@ 1.1V IB runs 4,25C hotter then SB with HT off. (16.03%)
@ 1.2V IB runs 10,75C hotter then SB with HT off. (36.44%)
@ 1.3V IB runs 15,00C hotter then SB with HT off. (44.11%)
@ 1.4V IB runs 24,75C hotter then SB with HT off. (65.56%)
Note, start temps (Idle) on 3570K is not showing correct values on core 2,3 and 4
My thoughts around Ivy Bridge.
I have seen a lot of people commenting that they are dissapointed in Ivy Bridge performance and so on, and that it's a sidegrade or a downgrade over Sandy Bridge.
This is my thoughts around the subject.
I honestly don't think IB is to bad, i think that when the large number of chips start rolling out i would guess that 50% of them will do ~4.4Ghz on 1.2v with HT ON , at that voltage a good air cooler will be good enough.
On an average water loop most chips will see 4.7Ghz and a good water loop will be able to push most chips towards 5Ghz (that is close to a 5.2Ghz SB). Find a good chip and a good water loop and i would not be surprised if we see 5.2Ghz 24/7 runs and that is the equivalent of a 5.4Ghz SB.
So in short 50% of chips will do:
- ~4.4Ghz on Air with HT on, this is about 4.7Ghz on a Sandy Bridge
- ~4.7Ghz on a decent custom watercooling loop = 5Ghz Sandy Bridge
- ~5.0Ghz on a good custom watercooling loop = 5.3Ghz Sandy Bridge.
Good/ Golden chips will be ~300Mhz more then that so that is the same as a 5Ghz Sandy Bridge on air, and close to a 5.5Ghz Sandy Bridge on a good watercooling loop
In addition to that we have PCI-EX 3.0 support, and some other goodies.
We also have much better overclocking on Phase, Dice and LN2 for those interested in that.
But this are all just speculations and estimates based on what i have seen, to be 100% sure we just have to wait another week.
This is my thoughts around the subject.
I honestly don't think IB is to bad, i think that when the large number of chips start rolling out i would guess that 50% of them will do ~4.4Ghz on 1.2v with HT ON , at that voltage a good air cooler will be good enough.
On an average water loop most chips will see 4.7Ghz and a good water loop will be able to push most chips towards 5Ghz (that is close to a 5.2Ghz SB). Find a good chip and a good water loop and i would not be surprised if we see 5.2Ghz 24/7 runs and that is the equivalent of a 5.4Ghz SB.
So in short 50% of chips will do:
- ~4.4Ghz on Air with HT on, this is about 4.7Ghz on a Sandy Bridge
- ~4.7Ghz on a decent custom watercooling loop = 5Ghz Sandy Bridge
- ~5.0Ghz on a good custom watercooling loop = 5.3Ghz Sandy Bridge.
Good/ Golden chips will be ~300Mhz more then that so that is the same as a 5Ghz Sandy Bridge on air, and close to a 5.5Ghz Sandy Bridge on a good watercooling loop
In addition to that we have PCI-EX 3.0 support, and some other goodies.
We also have much better overclocking on Phase, Dice and LN2 for those interested in that.
But this are all just speculations and estimates based on what i have seen, to be 100% sure we just have to wait another week.
LN2 runs
The 3570K was horrible, gave problems even at 5.7Ghz so did not bother to try it much.
One of the 3770K's was doing 6100Mhz with 4c/8t and 6245Mhz with 2c/2t.
The other did 6250Mhz with 4c/8t and 6365Mhz with 2c/2t. Had a bit limited time, and a lot of time went between every chip change, and so on so have not really done much 3D benching.
Some of the screenshots that where taken was damaged for some reason so this are the ones that is OK, and with good scores.
HwBot:
http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2276135_eggy88_superpi_core_i7_3770k_5sec_756ms
http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2276137_eggy88_pifast_core_i7_3770k_11.61_sec
One of the 3770K's was doing 6100Mhz with 4c/8t and 6245Mhz with 2c/2t.
The other did 6250Mhz with 4c/8t and 6365Mhz with 2c/2t. Had a bit limited time, and a lot of time went between every chip change, and so on so have not really done much 3D benching.
Some of the screenshots that where taken was damaged for some reason so this are the ones that is OK, and with good scores.
HwBot:
http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2276135_eggy88_superpi_core_i7_3770k_5sec_756ms
http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2276137_eggy88_pifast_core_i7_3770k_11.61_sec
