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The green and blue wires are the PWM and tach wire for the D5 connector.

That mod goes right on the D5's 4 pin connector that plugs onto the A6.

The easiest way to do it might actually be to make up a short extension cable with the mod on the extension cable's plug.

Google Zener Diode, and you'll see how they work so they can create a 5V source from the 12V that's present on the power pins of the A6 fan connectors.

Darlene

But why do you have 2 of each wire ?? and did you solder the diode and resistors on to the fan terminals?

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I see now.. you have 2 D5 pump cables underneath your sleeving smile.gif right ?



Yes, that cable was made as a Y cable for a dual D5 setup, but could seem confusing with the extra wires.

The diode and large resistor are each soldered to a terminal.

Here's the easiest way to implement the mod, . . . . as a short, 2 wire extension for the PWM and tach signals
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Darlene


Update:

Here's the little modded extension cable installed, note that the pullup resistor is a 3.3K, basically a workable compromise for either single or dual D5's, but really better suited to a single:




Here's the scope with only 1 of the D5's PWM line connected, notice that the pulse voltage is right about 3.4V max, and very near 0V min.

Ideally, the max should be right at 5V, but the D5's electronics load the circuit down some.





Now here's the scope with both D5's PWM line connected, notice it's now loaded down to about 2.5V.

The lower max pulse voltage can be accounted for with slightly higher percentage settings in Aquasuite.




Note also that max voltage for both single and dual setups does go up a little as the pulse width is increased.


What's really important in both cases, is that the pulse's "off time" voltage stays very close to 0V.

If the pullup resistor is lowered to 1k or so, the max voltage comes up very close to 5V, but the "off time" voltage climbs up closer to .8V or so, and then the pump doesn't see it as off time any more , and runs full speed with no regards to the pulse width.

That's why if you have a dual D5, use a 2.2K when you make your cable, and a 3.3K if you have a single D5.



Darlene

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Subbed § Can I join please thumb.gif A6 XT

Btw Darlene.. any solution yet to controlling the PWM D5 on A6 ? doh I didnt read your topic blushsmiley.gif
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Yes, . . . .

There's a really good way with an add-on PCB, but there's also a quick and easy way that yields acceptable results without having to run wires and plug into a 5V molex pin somewhere.

Here's copied from the "old" A6 thread with some additional information:

For the capable DIY'er . . .

While not as optimal a solution as the active component based solutions, this is a workable solution to the issue of having a PWM D5.




I've tried it on a single and a dual D5 setup and it works satisfactorily with pullups optimized for each case, and it's dead nuts simple, though not exactly elegant.

At issue is that the D5 needs a fairly "strong" pullup, (lower resistance) . . . while the A6 works best with weaker pullups, (higher resistance).




This setup uses the 12V available from the first 2 of the 4 PWM fan pins on each channel of the A6.

The Zener diode and larger resistor form a 5V regulated source that the smaller resistor connects the PWM line to.

The diode is a 5.1V Zener diode, and the larger resistor, the 1/2 W one, is a 560 Ohm, but 470, 680, 820, or 1K will work as well. 1K may be the easiest to find.

Be sure you have the Zener diode polarity connected as in the pic.

The smaller resistor, 1/4 W, is a 2.2K which I'd suggest for a dual D5 setup, but for a single D5, a 3.3K would be fine.

The smaller size, 1/6W or 1/8W are electrically OK, but the smaller physical size makes lead breakage more of an issue, so stay with 1/4W.


Everything shown is available from RadioShack.


Hope that helps,

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K that looks way out of my the range of my abilities... I will just connect the pumps to the motherboard for now.
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K that looks way out of my the range of my abilities... I will just connect the pumps to the motherboard for now.

I am sure you can do it as it is not as hard as it looks...
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K that looks way out of my the range of my abilities... I will just connect the pumps to the motherboard for now.


Using the mobo will be fine . .

You'll loose having the pump info in the Aquasuite overview etc., but pumps are pretty much a set and forget thing once you get the system bled.

Find a sweet spot where faster doesn't get lower temps and the noise level is comfortably acceptable and just leave it there.
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I really appreciate your helpful replies! I have the flow meter and temp sensor for the Aquacomputer which lets me validate flow and i can set the pump speed in the bios. Thats good enough for me. May be i will post a build log in this forum to show how its possible to fail badly smile.gif. Somehow i still order cable and stuff everyday as my planning changes whenever some parts come in and its easy tomunderestimate the amount of fittings necessary... ( ordered 14 and i will be at least3 short...).
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Ok, so it's been a REALLY long time since I've been on this forum. I started building my new PC in 2015, a ton of stuff came up making me put everything on the backburner, but I've started working on it again a couple weeks ago and am just about finished.

I do need a little advice here. At the time, I knew this backwards and forwards, but after sleeving some of my Aquaero cables and having them sit in a box for months, I forgot which cable goes where, so I'm hoping someone can lend a hand so I can finally get this finished.

First, I'm using an Aquaero 6XT, 2 x Poweradjust 3 Ultras, and 2 x Farbwerk Bluetooth modules. I have everything mounted up, but I need some help remembering where these cables go. I'm running 2 x D5 pumps (I don't intend to do the Diva Mod, I just want to finish this project now), I also have the PWM banks on the Aquaero filled. Right now, the only thing hooked up to my Aquaero, Poweradjusts, and Farbwerks are the power supplies and the fans for the Aquaero. I'm running a leak check, so no other components inside my computer are powered on either. I know one of the following pictures is a Y adapter for the aquabus, I think the blue 3 pin cables are RPM cables that I sleeved, but what are these cables with a 3 pin connector on one end and a MOLEX plus this other small cable on the other end? The MOLEX only has 2 wires in it, the smaller cable, which looks like a fan would hook to it if it had more than 1 wire, looks like it supplies power to the 3 pin connector. The 2 wire from the MOLEX connector are black and yellow, but I have no idea where these hook up. I have 2 of them. I also have a handful of USB cables, the aquabus cables, so I'm hoping someone can familiarize ,myself with this again so my project can finally be completed. I've attached pictures of the cables I'm referring to.




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Hi guys,

Quick question: I have the Flow Sensor for my Aquaero and a dual D5 pump so I expect to be able to turn down pump speed quite significantly in my 1 GPU 1 CPU 1 Res 1 FLOW Sensor 2 560mm Radiator configuration.

What is the ideal flow rate i should strive for?

Cheers,

Stefan
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So 3.8 Liter per minute. Thanks a lot. Will try to go for that.
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Np the general idea is 1gpm-1.5gpm you can read up more on martins liquid lab if you want
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Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
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OCZ Agility 3 120GB  Seagate Barracuda 1TB  Segate Barracuda 3TB Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... 
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Blu-ray Writer Swiftech H20-220 EDGE HD Liquid Cooling Kit Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech MCP-35X2 
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Swiftech MCP35X2 Heat Sink Swiftech MCP35X Reservoir Swiftech Komodo 7970 Swiftech Komodo 7970 
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Alphacool 240mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm XT45 Alphacool 120mm UT60 FrozenQ PC Mods UV Meteor Light Limited Edition... 
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Koolance Radiator Mounting Bracket with Quick-R... Swiftech Komodo 7970 Windows 7 Windows 8  
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ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms  XFX FXTRISTAND Triple Display Monitor Stand  
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Sony 2.1 Razer Megalodon XFX pro 1250w black edition 
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8350 batch 1229 pgn  Asus Crosshair V Formula-Z gigabyte 7770 OC gigabyte 7770 OC 
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F3-2400C10D-16GTX OCZ agaility 3 120  OCZ Agility 3 120gb  Seagate 7200rpm 1tb 
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Pioneer BDR-208DBK Rosewill RCR-IM5001 USB2.0 75 in 1 internal Car... Swiftech MCP-35X White Top Swiftech Quiet Power 240  
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Swiftech Apogee HD Windows 7 Windows 8 LG E2242 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG E2242 RAZER Black Lycosa Mirror Special Edition Seasonic x660 Cooler Master Storm Stryker 
Mouse
Razer Lachesis 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX 6100 Sabertooth 990fx R2.0 XFX 7770 Core Edition Samsung 1600 2x4 
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Samsung 1600 2x4 Unknown as of now  Piorneer BDR-208DBK Swiftech H220  
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Windows 8  Samsung 60" 120hz 3d LED TV Unknown Seasonic x750 
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