Wow, so it's a timed demo... and they called that "sharing"?

 

If true it's not a surprise to me at all. I've been expecting the real details to be severely gimped of what people were expecting.

Besides, why go through all of that trouble implementing DRM to just give games away for free 10-fold? I'm surprised anyone would have thought otherwise, actually.

 

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This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour.

Real garbage

Was this the game sharing people were crazy about?

 

I read something about this last night. IF true, that would be dirty and underhanded as they touted it as one of the biggest features and then fail to mention that it is technically a timed demo. Poo poo MS.

 

Pretty sure I read somewhere in one of the other threads that this article was false.

 

I was going to wait and see what would happen, the consoles aren't even out. Even though I am a proclaimed playstation fan, I kept telling my self to wait and see what would transpire. If this truly was the case though, why didn't they just come out and explain this stuff before hand to avoid the backlash? Since Microsoft did not openly talk about policy regarding the ecosystem surrounding the X-box one, and after the myriad of comments from officials about what little they did talk about, I have a hard time swallowing some of what they say now. However nothing is set in stone and anything can be changed on both sides after they debut both consoles. so some of this discussion is kind of moot in my opinion because its like talking about computer hardware that has not even released yet.

 

so you can pay more for the family plan to show demos to 9 people of your choice? right.
Does this mean they will stop releasing demos on the xbox marketplace and expect people to share games they already bought?

 

When I heard that Microsoft went back on their word, I was shocked. The fact that they would try to get rid of bad publicity by making a feature seem like something it's not doesn't surprise me at all coming from them. With all of the unfair things that they've been doing to try to make the XBox One more popular I couldn't imagine them actually listening to their consumers at this point. This is just my opinion though.

Edit: As other posters said, this may be fake. I hope so.

 

Fake.

 

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Originally Posted by Faint

Pretty sure I read somewhere in one of the other threads that this article was false.

Was never outright proven as false. But, there is no evidence to support it as completely legit, either.

Only time will tell. Wouldn't be surprised, though.

 

fake lol

Website needs clicks

 

I'm getting real tired of all of this "OMG WERE STUCK WITH PHYSICAL COPIES FOREVER BECAUSE THE INTERNET RUINED EVERYTHING!!!!" that's been going around.

There's absolutely no reason why Microsoft couldn't have turned around and went, "well, you can use discs traditionally or you can download the games and share them, not worry about discs, etc"

I don't see what is so hard about this. Microsoft is acting like we just killed their puppy and making us choose between discs and download.

I just don't get why you have to choose. As I said before, there are games on 3DS that you can download AND buy the cart for, each side has its advantages and disadvantages but it's up to the customer to choose.

Microsoft still doesn't get it, they don't want to let the customers choose. They want to tell us we can either have discs or we can have no online anything.

My guess is that this is all a ruse, Microsoft will "suddenly have an epiphany" and decide that "they can do both through some really high tech stuff!" and give everyone the best of both worlds. Sales would go insane after that and it'd be pitching an ancient idea as brand new (you could buy physical copies of games and activate them on Steam since forever), but MS could get a lot of the "OMG call of duty ghosts is so goood it has a dog!!!" to say "omg MS just invented to kewlest thing brahhhhh"

 

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Originally Posted by sdlvx

There's absolutely no reason why Microsoft couldn't have turned around and went, "well, you can use discs traditionally or you can download the games and share them, not worry about discs, etc"

Exactly. But instead we got

 

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Originally Posted by sdlvx

I'm getting real tired of all of this "OMG WERE STUCK WITH PHYSICAL COPIES FOREVER BECAUSE THE INTERNET RUINED EVERYTHING!!!!" that's been going around.

There's absolutely no reason why Microsoft couldn't have turned around and went, "well, you can use discs traditionally or you can download the games and share them, not worry about discs, etc"

I don't see what is so hard about this. Microsoft is acting like we just killed their puppy and making us choose between discs and download.

I just don't get why you have to choose. As I said before, there are games on 3DS that you can download AND buy the cart for, each side has its advantages and disadvantages but it's up to the customer to choose.

Microsoft still doesn't get it, they don't want to let the customers choose. They want to tell us we can either have discs or we can have no online anything.

My guess is that this is all a ruse, Microsoft will "suddenly have an epiphany" and decide that "they can do both through some really high tech stuff!" and give everyone the best of both worlds. Sales would go insane after that and it'd be pitching an ancient idea as brand new (you could buy physical copies of games and activate them on Steam since forever), but MS could get a lot of the "OMG call of duty ghosts is so goood it has a dog!!!" to say "omg MS just invented to kewlest thing brahhhhh"

What are you talking about, you can still download games....

 

download for six hours, play for 1 hour. i really can't comprehend how someone will defend this, but i'm sure someone will.

inb4 developer defends

 

Can't trust these companies and Microsoft even less than usual. I bet the agreement wording would go something like "we have the right to change this without notice" and once enough people have the console they will start making changes. Or maybe not. But these are the types of things one thinks once trust is out the window.

 

I remember a time when this section used to be filled with actual video game news.

 

I actually prefer physical media.

 

... Well I guess sharing games sucks. Well that was pretty much the coolest thing thing that they were talking about. Too bad MS can't just be straight up about stuff. But then again if they had said that in the beginning there may have been no hope for the xbox1.

 

if this is true or not, I can't see that you would of been able to share the game with out some restrictions, Because 10 friends get 10 different games and play them all the way through wouldn't make sense for a publisher, but an hours demo of a game could be enough to convince some one to buy it especially if they already have it download, installed and just getting to the first boss/objective

 

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Originally Posted by Greenback

if this is true or not, I can't see that you would of been able to share the game with out some restrictions, Because 10 friends get 10 different games and play them all the way through wouldn't make sense for a publisher, but an hours demo of a game could be enough to convince some one to buy it especially if they already have it download, installed and just getting to the first boss/objective

you mean you couldn't play it all the way through, like you could if you simply lended them a physical copy? physical copy ftw again

 

I remember the day I used to swap games with my friends and my family....got my uncle hooked on morrowind...then fallout. Guess I'll remember the day swaping got stomped.

 

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I remember a time when this section used to be filled with actual video game news.

This.

 

This is just that Pastebin post...I could hop on there and say the complete opposite. Heh, or make my comment about how the PS4 is coming with a former Russian Spetsnaz for DRM purposes. Would that make it actually become official?

The MS statement on it was:
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Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend's house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.

"Just like today" was said and the disks don't have self destruct timers on them. It also would have been quite the stretch to turn "At a given time" into actually only one time for 30 to 60 minutes.

Plus this one:
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"It's not ten different people all playing the game concurrently, but when you think about a real usage scenario, and we thought about it around a family, and I know certain people will create a family group of people that aren't all part of the same family, and I do think that's an advantage, and people will use that," Spencer explained.

Thinking about a real usage scenario of a family is also not a timed demo.

I guess it could be real, the whole idea sounded way too good to be true, but at this point is doesn't matter.

 

If this is true I guess people will need to get into speedrunning games.