Something always ready to record? Yes, I am a bit weary.

 

I would say it's likely some sort of legislation might be passed to clarify / reinforce definitions around this type of device as the product reaches the mass market. Bars and restaurants and shopping malls aren't public places, they are private places where you are allowed in, many of them already state that you can't take pictures, and those that don't assume it's not an everyday occurrence exactly because of what you said, because people tend to notice if you're pointing a camera or a smartphone at someone / something.

With Google Glass you never know when it's recording, so it's akin to create an uncomfortable environment for the people surrounding it. Especially because you can actually be recording video, instead of just the occasional photo as people mostly do with a smartphone.

 

Why is recording any different than watching in a bar. I mean sure in like a movie theater or a comedy club that is ok. But in my opinion cell phones are worse. In high school guys would use their cell phones going up the stairs to take pictures etc, you get the idea. At least with glass you can see what they are recording.

 

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Why is recording any different than watching in a bar. I mean sure in like a movie theater or a comedy club that is ok. But in my opinion cell phones are worse. In high school guys would use their cell phones going up the stairs to take pictures etc, you get the idea. At least with glass you can see what they are recording.

How is it different than watching? Is that a serious question?

 

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How is it different than watching? Is that a serious question?

Business and the government record everything, yet we aren't allowed. The only difference is you can replay it again. Which i can already do with my memories.

 

Meh. This whole thing is absolutely stupid. Trying to fight or "ban" Glass is only going to encourage someone to make a new alternative that is incredibly sleek and stealthy, to the point that you can't even tell it's a smart device.

 

Private users tend to tweet and facebook their videos and photos.

 

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How is it different than watching? Is that a serious question?

Business and the government record everything, yet we aren't allowed. The only difference is you can replay it again. Which i can already do with my memories.

that's cool, but if someone happens to be at a bar drunk, you replaying it in"your memory"is irrelevant, you uploading it onto YouTube,etc, where everyone in the world can see, including co workers, your boss,etc is a different story imo

 

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that's cool, but if someone happens to be at a bar drunk, you replaying it in"your memory"is irrelevant, you uploading it onto YouTube,etc, where everyone in the world can see, including co workers, your boss,etc is a different story imo

Then don't drink in a public place if you don't want your private life to be known.

 

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that's cool, but if someone happens to be at a bar drunk, you replaying it in"your memory"is irrelevant, you uploading it onto YouTube,etc, where everyone in the world can see, including co workers, your boss,etc is a different story imo

Then don't drink in a public place if you don't want your private life to be known.

There are laws specifically to protect people from this sort of thing. If a bar decided to ban a device from being used in their establishment, it is the owners RIGHT to do so. If you invited a man into your house, and he decided to start smoking, you have the right to ask him to put it out or leave. Sure, it isn't illegal to smoke inside of a private establishment, but the owner can decide that it is unwelcome if he chooses.

9/10, would drink at this bar

 

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Then don't drink in a public place if you don't want your private life to be known.

are you for real?

so... your in a bar (fyi im old enough to be able to drink in them so have experience) and its quite a large bar / pub, your saying everyone in that bar has a right to hear your conversation even if its between two closed people sat at a table.. not only that but broadcast to the entire world

your literally insane if you think that's ok

 

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that's cool, but if someone happens to be at a bar drunk, you replaying it in"your memory"is irrelevant, you uploading it onto YouTube,etc, where everyone in the world can see, including co workers, your boss,etc is a different story imo

Then don't drink in a public place if you don't want your private life to be known.

A bar isn't a public place, even shopping malls that sometimes look like streets with a glass ceiling aren't public places.

Public places are streets and beaches and the like.

Also, while the shopping mall has security cameras, there are strict provisions on what can be done with those and who can access them and penalties for the staff that infringes on the rules. Just because both the governments and private companies sometimes have people in them that don't comply with the law and do the exact opposite, doesn't mean that the law is wrong.

 

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A bar isn't a public place, even shopping malls that sometimes look like streets with a glass ceiling aren't public places.

Public places are streets and beaches and the like.

Also, while the shopping mall has security cameras, there are strict provisions on what can be done with those and who can access them and penalties for the staff that infringes on the rules. Just because both the governments and private companies sometimes have people in them that don't comply with the law and do the exact opposite, doesn't mean that the law is wrong.

I think there's different interpretations of public. "public place" as in legally if its public or private, and "public place" as in how private are your conversations and actions. A mall based on the second interpretation is not public (at least in the main areas of the mall)

 

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A bar isn't a public place, even shopping malls that sometimes look like streets with a glass ceiling aren't public places.

Public places are streets and beaches and the like.

Also, while the shopping mall has security cameras, there are strict provisions on what can be done with those and who can access them and penalties for the staff that infringes on the rules. Just because both the governments and private companies sometimes have people in them that don't comply with the law and do the exact opposite, doesn't mean that the law is wrong.

I think there's different interpretations of public. "public place" as in legally if its public or private, and "public place" as in how private are your conversations and actions. A mall based on the second interpretation is not public private (at least in the main areas of the mall)

I think that is what you mean (small edit in the quote above).

Yes, true, but still, there is an innate right to a sphere of privacy, even in public places. For example, it's not acceptable for you and a friend to be walking on the street, talking to each other, and someone deliberately walking 30cm behind you two with a microphone and a camera pointed at your faces.

 

well t least if you see a google glass wearer you will be more aware of whats possible unlike someone wearing something you have no idea could be recording.

 

I don't see a problem at all. It's a private esatblishment and if the owner doesn't want google glasses in there then so be it.

 

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Yes, true, but still, there is an innate right to a sphere of privacy, even in public places. For example, it's not acceptable for you and a friend to be walking on the street, talking to each other, and someone deliberately walking 30cm behind you two with a microphone and a camera pointed at your faces.

somebody who gets it

 

POV anyone?

 

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I think that is what you mean (small edit in the quote above).

Yes, true, but still, there is an innate right to a sphere of privacy, even in public places. For example, it's not acceptable for you and a friend to be walking on the street, talking to each other, and someone deliberately walking 30cm behind you two with a microphone and a camera pointed at your faces.

I think this is semi relevant to the topic http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/05/us/massachusetts-upskirt-photography/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Might not be appropriate though...

 

LOL. bars, shopping malls, restaurants are public places, they might be privately owned but they are public places, there are some exceptions though.

GOOOGLE it before you reply to my comment.

 

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are you for real?

so... your in a bar (fyi im old enough to be able to drink in them so have experience) and its quite a large bar / pub, your saying everyone in that bar has a right to hear your conversation even if its between two closed people sat at a table.. not only that but broadcast to the entire world

your literally insane if you think that's ok

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There are laws specifically to protect people from this sort of thing. If a bar decided to ban a device from being used in their establishment, it is the owners RIGHT to do so. If you invited a man into your house, and he decided to start smoking, you have the right to ask him to put it out or leave. Sure, it isn't illegal to smoke inside of a private establishment, but the owner can decide that it is unwelcome if he chooses.

9/10, would drink at this bar

While i understand these arguments you have to understand how some people would use the product. Having lost my dad a month ago having some records would hold an immense amount more value to me. Example last feburary my brother announced his wife was pregnant and we were all out to dinner at an olive garden. If i had a google glass there, sitting at our table recording it would hold an immense amount of value, and i wouldn't have been recording anyone else on purpose. If i even had someone else's voice on the recording i wouldn't care.

All of your thoughts are malicious. You think people will be using it to spy on people on purpose. Sure some people will use it maliciously, just like people drive aggressively. Things are misused its pretty much a fact of life. I don't see how this misuse is any different than the misuse, and should be treated differently. I mean if someone is recording you i'm sure you would be able to tell. In a bar that loud you'd have to be very close to hear anything, And if you do something embarrassing it's equally embarrassing if you do it in public regardless. A google glass doesn't have enough space on it to walk around, and record just to catch funny moments. It would need to have meaning to record as it doesn't have space for 24/7 recording.

 

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While i understand these arguments you have to understand how some people would use the product. Having lost my dad a month ago having some records would hold an immense amount more value to me. Example last feburary my brother announced his wife was pregnant and we were all out to dinner at an olive garden. If i had a google glass there, sitting at our table recording it would hold an immense amount of value, and i wouldn't have been recording anyone else on purpose. If i even had someone else's voice on the recording i wouldn't care.

All of your thoughts are malicious. You think people will be using it to spy on people on purpose. Sure some people will use it maliciously, just like people drive aggressively. Things are misused its pretty much a fact of life. I don't see how this misuse is any different than the misuse, and should be treated differently. I mean if someone is recording you i'm sure you would be able to tell. In a bar that loud you'd have to be very close to hear anything, And if you do something embarrassing it's equally embarrassing if you do it in public regardless. A google glass doesn't have enough space on it to walk around, and record just to catch funny moments. It would need to have meaning to record as it doesn't have space for 24/7 recording.

and MANY will use it innocently passively and capture the next scandal as much as they capture a personal moment, conversation or land someone in deep crap at work etc..

btw sry for your loss. Personally i dont like having video footage of loved ones, id just sit there replaying it and depressing myself. Im happy with my own fond (perhaps too glossy and kind) memories.

 

What is the feasibility of establishments implementing technology similar to this to blind/jam cameras en masse?

 

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and MANY will use it innocently passively and capture the next scandal as much as they capture a personal moment, conversation or land someone in deep crap at work etc..

btw sry for your loss. Personally i dont like having video footage of loved ones, id just sit there replaying it and depressing myself. Im happy with my own fond (perhaps too glossy and kind) memories.

Just because something isn't captured on camera doesn't make it any less of a scandal. You are seriously paranoid and might want to go grab a tin foil hat.

And if someone that records it knows you well enough to know where you work you might want to re evaluate your friends.

 

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Then don't drink in a public place if you don't want your private life to be known.

Wise words for Mayor Ford.