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765 views 17 replies 3 participants last post by  Aesthethc  
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#2 ·
Questions:

What/how many components are you trying to cool?

What type of pump?

The clamps you posted are for 3/8" OD (outer diameter) so they will not work with the tubing you selected which is 3/8" ID - 1/2" OD
Considering you have multiple radiators you should probably stick with 1/2" ID tubing which comes in either 5/8" or 3/4" OD
 
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Originally Posted by bavarianblessed View Post

Questions:

What/how many components are you trying to cool?

What type of pump?

The clamps you posted are for 3/8" OD (outer diameter) so they will not work with the tubing you selected which is 3/8" ID - 1/2" OD
Considering you have multiple radiators you should probably stick with 1/2" ID tubing which comes in either 5/8" or 3/4" OD
im water cooling two graphics cards and one cpu. And i kinda wanna stay with 3/8 ID tubing.... just found this one and it seems like pretty good tubing

http://www.amazon.com/PrimoChill-PrimoFlex-Advanced-Tubing--Crystal/dp/B00A0Q55MC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1393825931&sr=8-5&keywords=PrimoFlex+LRT+clear
 
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I won't claim to know a whole lot about water cooling but with that many components in the loop you'd be shooting yourself in the foot by restricting flow with a smaller ID tubing. Even with a single GPU and the CPU you are pushing it with 3/8" ID.
 
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Originally Posted by bavarianblessed View Post

I won't claim to know a whole lot about water cooling but with that many components in the loop you'd be shooting yourself in the foot by restricting flow with a smaller ID tubing. Even with a single GPU and the CPU you are pushing it with 3/8" ID.
So you suggest a larger tube that allows more water to flow?
 
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Originally Posted by bavarianblessed View Post

I won't claim to know a whole lot about water cooling but with that many components in the loop you'd be shooting yourself in the foot by restricting flow with a smaller ID tubing. Even with a single GPU and the CPU you are pushing it with 3/8" ID.
and as for the pump i was thinking about going with a tube pump/res combo
 
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Originally Posted by bavarianblessed View Post

I won't claim to know a whole lot about water cooling but with that many components in the loop you'd be shooting yourself in the foot by restricting flow with a smaller ID tubing. Even with a single GPU and the CPU you are pushing it with 3/8" ID.
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Originally Posted by Mralternation View Post

So you suggest a larger tube that allows more water to flow?
This would be my best bet?

http://www.amazon.com/PrimoChill-PrimoFlex-Advanced-Tubing--Crystal/dp/B00A0PUH3K/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1393827099&sr=8-3&keywords=primoflex+lrt+1%2F2id
 
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Originally Posted by bavarianblessed View Post

I won't claim to know a whole lot about water cooling but with that many components in the loop you'd be shooting yourself in the foot by restricting flow with a smaller ID tubing. Even with a single GPU and the CPU you are pushing it with 3/8" ID.
please no misinformation if you are not sure dont spread it.

3/8 ID tubing is fine.

I use 3/8 tubing in my build. I have a motherboard block, CPU block, two GPU blocks (when i had 670's), two radiators, and tons of 90 degree fittings everywhere and my MCP35x pump is lightly running at 30% power.

My GPU's dont get past 34C on load and CPU doesnt get past 55C. (this was before i switched to a 780 classy)

 
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

please no misinformation if you are not sure dont spread it.

3/8 ID tubing is fine.

I use 3/8 tubing in my build. I have a motherboard block, CPU block, two GPU blocks (when i had 670's), two radiators, and tons of 90 degree fittings everywhere and my MCP35x pump is lightly running at 30% power.

My GPU's dont get past 34C on load and CPU doesnt get past 55C. (this was before i switched to a 780 classy)

I was simply repeating what I had read in other threads in the past. By all means, fill the man in.
 
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

please no misinformation if you are not sure dont spread it.

3/8 ID tubing is fine.

I use 3/8 tubing in my build. I have a motherboard block, CPU block, two GPU blocks (when i had 670's), two radiators, and tons of 90 degree fittings everywhere and my MCP35x pump is lightly running at 30% power.

My GPU's dont get past 34C on load and CPU doesnt get past 55C. (this was before i switched to a 780 classy)

But you have a 240mm rad and a 360rad lol
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. If i stick with the 3/8 ID and 1/2 OD what clamps would i need? something bigger than 1/2?
 
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Already have.
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OP: You should pick tubing and fittings with the SAME Inner Diamter and SAME Outer Diameter. (Example: Tubing is 1/2 x 3/4 then Fittings have to be 1/2 x 3/4). More experienced users in water cooling can try fitting smaller ID tubes on larger fittings by using hot water on the ends of the tubes and forcing them in, but we're not going to be doing that since youre still new.

I dont see a pump listed but i see you want a pump/res combo in a Tube Reservoir. Just make sure the pump matches the diameter of your fittings/tubing .If you arent sure you can post a link of the one you want and we can tell you if it will work or not.

Some pumps have nozzles on them, so pay attention to the fitting sizes on the pump. Some pumps have threads to screw in fittings; just make sure you get the correct fittings to screw into the pump so that your tubing can fit on them.

You should also get some sort of Biocide liquid -- look it up... its a simple concentration of Copper Sulfate that you add a drop or two to kill bacteria in the loop, or you can also use a silver "kill coil" which is just a Silver metal strip bent in a coil that you stick inside your reservoir or somewhere in your loop; this should also take care of algae problems in the loop. You dont need both; just go with either one and youll be fine. I went with the biocide.
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Also make sure you use distilled water in your loop recommended, Deionized water is okay too. Just dont use tap water. Make sure if you get tap water on your fittings or blocks, to do a quick rinse with distilled or deionized, whichever youre using.

I also didnt see any blocks for your components, are you listing that separately?

You will need a CPU block that will match the socket of your motherboard, most CPU blocks will mount onto all the sockets; but just be wary as some may only come with specific generations, so outdated generations like LGA775 may be a little harder to get, but they do exist.

Also need a GPU block that is compatible with your GPU, or you can go with a universal GPU block too.
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Originally Posted by Mralternation View Post

But you have a 240mm rad and a 360rad lol
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. If i stick with the 3/8 ID and 1/2 OD what clamps would i need? something bigger than 1/2?
I have two 360mm radiators. The top one is a 360mm. Is there a problem?

If you go with 3/8ID and 1/2OD then get clamps for 1/2OD. You need to match it with your fittings sizes or else it wont fit. Just make sure the only numbers you see are all the same ratio. Its really simple. You should try to go for 3/8 x 5/8 as 3/8 x 1/2 can kink much easier if youre going for tight bends.
 
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

Already have.
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OP: You should pick tubing and fittings with the SAME Inner Diamter and SAME Outer Diameter. (Example: Tubing is 1/2 x 3/4 then Fittings have to be 1/2 x 3/4). More experienced users in water cooling can try fitting smaller ID tubes on larger fittings by using hot water on the ends of the tubes and forcing them in, but we're not going to be doing that since youre still new.

I dont see a pump listed but i see you want a pump/res combo in a Tube Reservoir. Just make sure the pump matches the diameter of your fittings/tubing .If you arent sure you can post a link of the one you want and we can tell you if it will work or not.

Some pumps have nozzles on them, so pay attention to the fitting sizes on the pump. Some pumps have threads to screw in fittings; just make sure you get the correct fittings to screw into the pump so that your tubing can fit on them.

You should also get some sort of Biocide liquid -- look it up... its a simple concentration of Copper Sulfate that you add a drop or two to kill bacteria in the loop, or you can also use a silver "kill coil" which is just a Silver metal strip bent in a coil that you stick inside your reservoir or somewhere in your loop; this should also take care of algae problems in the loop. You dont need both; just go with either one and youll be fine. I went with the biocide.
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Also make sure you use distilled water in your loop recommended, Deionized water is okay too. Just dont use tap water. Make sure if you get tap water on your fittings or blocks, to do a quick rinse with distilled or deionized, whichever youre using.

I also didnt see any blocks for your components, are you listing that separately?

You will need a CPU block that will match the socket of your motherboard, most CPU blocks will mount onto all the sockets; but just be wary as some may only come with specific generations, so outdated generations like LGA775 may be a little harder to get, but they do exist.

Also need a GPU block that is compatible with your GPU, or you can go with a universal GPU block too.
I have two 360mm radiators. The top one is a 360mm. Is there a problem?

If you go with 3/8ID and 1/2OD then get clamps for 1/2OD. You need to match it with your fittings sizes or else it wont fit. Just make sure the only numbers you see are all the same ratio. Its really simple. You should try to go for 3/8 x 5/8 as 3/8 x 1/2 can kink much easier if youre going for tight bends.
okay cool dude thanks a bunch! no joke this helped me a lot lmao!
 
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Originally Posted by Mralternation View Post

okay cool dude thanks a bunch! no joke this helped me a lot lmao!
Yes yes, glad it helped! Why did you say :
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Originally Posted by Mralternation View Post

But you have a 240mm rad and a 360rad lol
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I listed two radiators, which is the same as your two radiators: a 240mm and a 120mm. The difference in radiator sizes dont really make a huge difference on restriction; most of your restriction will come from your blocks and sometimes your radiators. That alphacool and XSPC radiator you listed is not on the very restrictive side; so you will be fine.

What pump are you using?
 
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

Yes yes, glad it helped! Why did you say :
I listed two radiators, which is the same as your two radiators: a 240mm and a 120mm. The difference in radiator sizes dont really make a huge difference on restriction; most of your restriction will come from your blocks and sometimes your radiators. That alphacool and XSPC radiator you listed is not on the very restrictive side; so you will be fine.

What pump are you using?
probably this one
http://www.amazon.com/XSPC-Photon-Reservoir-Vario-Combo/dp/B00FJHFREI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1393829581&sr=8-1&keywords=D5+Photon+270+Reservoir%2FPump+Combo
 
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Oh thats just good
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That Vario D5 means youll have Variable Speed and be able to manually adjust pump speed and lower it down if you dont need it to always run on maximum. Plus when you dial it down its going to be pretty quiet.

Yeah, that should easily handle two GPU's and a CPU, maybe some 90 degree fittings you really want to add some. Try to avoid them as they can affect restriction, but i have like 5 in my loop and it doesnt seem to be a problem!
 
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

Oh thats just good
smile.gif


That Vario D5 means youll have Variable Speed and be able to manually adjust pump speed and lower it down if you dont need it to always run on maximum. Plus when you dial it down its going to be pretty quiet.

Yeah, that should easily handle two GPU's and a CPU, maybe some 90 degree fittings you really want to add some. Try to avoid them as they can affect restriction, but i have like 5 in my loop and it doesnt seem to be a problem!
awesome, ill try not to get 90 degree fittings but if its a must then i will. thanks a bunch again man, thanks
 
#17 ·
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Originally Posted by Aesthethc View Post

Oh thats just good
smile.gif


That Vario D5 means youll have Variable Speed and be able to manually adjust pump speed and lower it down if you dont need it to always run on maximum. Plus when you dial it down its going to be pretty quiet.

Yeah, that should easily handle two GPU's and a CPU, maybe some 90 degree fittings you really want to add some. Try to avoid them as they can affect restriction, but i have like 5 in my loop and it doesnt seem to be a problem!
As for the fittings both ID and OD matter for the fittings and tubing? i Thought that it was only the ID that mattered
 
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Originally Posted by Mralternation View Post

As for the fittings both ID and OD matter for the fittings and tubing? i Thought that it was only the ID that mattered
Barb + clamp: For the fitting, the ID matters; for the clamp, the OD matters.

Compression fittings (a bit more expensive -- but looks way cleaner): Fitting will come in a ID size and OD size, you need to match this with tubing.

Think about this: You cant fit a larger ID tubing on smaller ID fitting. It will be loose and you will have yourself a leak. You can however fit smaller ID tubing on larger ID barb, but it doesnt easily go in. You will need some sort of heatgun or hot water method to mend the tubing to fit into the larger fitting. This method only works with barb + clamp. This method will not work with compression fittings.

Barbs are listed with the Screw Size (G 1/4) and listed with the Inner Diameter.
Clamps are listed with the Outer Diameter.

Compression Fittings are listed with both ID and OD.