Your build looks awesome!

 

Thanks Betroz really appreciate that!

 

Your build looks great! And I’m glad you’re happy with it. Your excitement over this reminds me of my own excitement. The same feeling that reminds me of my PC hardware addiction 🤣 lol. I thought you had an awesome 14900KS already if I remember correctly which provided the similar performance. (I’m curious how it compares to your prior system performance wise) Anyways, your build is awesome just remember the reason why we all want the new GeForce RTX5090. And it won’t be because it’s more efficient. It’ll be because it’s brutal power over the prior 4090. Building one of these Z890 rigs cost more or less the same as that thing will when you add in top Tier CPU/Memory/Motherboard cost together.

I ordered a 285K and cancelled it, I felt like I was buying a ticket to the “Save the Whales Foundation” with the whale being Intel. Newer doesn’t always mean better. 😃

I do think your system is awesome though! I’m glad it’s working well.

 

I share the same sentiment; absolutely stunning build, and i've always loved the features and looks of the Extreme boards(had a 690 Extreme, but went to an Apex encore bc of RAM OC). However, i cancelled my preorder as soon as i saw the benches and leaks coming out and am absolutely thankful that i abandoned the titanic that is Intel.

 

According to DannyzReviews there actually isn’t really that much of a difference in 14900K vs 285K in temperature once both CPUs are tuned, because the 285K just doesn’t have has much undervolting headroom. If you max undervolt a 14900K it’s going to have pretty similar temps to a 285K that’s been tuned.

 

The best i9 14900k/f i have tested did undervolt ~ 40mv to pass CB R15.
(5.7ghz all core).
A few did not undervolt even 10mv.
The old i9 13900k did undervolt better for 5.5ghz all core.

 

Beautiful gaming in 4K, I am sure that is dictated by the GPU choice my friend.

14600K is often as fast or better for less money in games and can be tuned equally.

I am happy that you are happy and the rig looks sick!.

Noticed you were on Reddit with the same post.

Look they are a bad purchase, for some reason humans need to suck a companies D and say "My honest or non sponsored review".

Like we get it, you want the new shiny, you don't care if it is worse than previously, you have more money than sense and need to rationalize your own vices.

 

I never go by what YouTube shows. Think about how fast a tuned 285k probably is now with newer bios and newer ME. It’s gonna be blistering fast. The 14600K has no chance whatsoever. It has huge IPC gains just because it ran like crap on launch doesn’t mean it’ll always be like that.

The 285K is not a bad purchase at all! Not sure why people think this.. It’s an extremely fast CPU. I merely agree that the 285K isn’t exactly an upgrade over a 14900K/14900KS and Z790.

 

I’d still rather have a 285K over a 9800X3D though lol.

It's Intel, far less software problems keeping it under the traditional hardware designed specifically for Intel Gear. AMD is always dodgy and unreliable across nearly most software and drivers.

The 285K is a do it all chip. Fast in gaming, and really really fast in multithreaded. It’s just not a solid upgrade over the already existing 13900K/13900KS/14900K/14900KS.

It is only if it uses far less POWER. That's a welcome upgrade for 2025.......

 

It's Intel, far less software problems keeping it under the traditional hardware designed specifically for Intel Gear. AMD is always dodgy and unreliable across nearly most software and drivers.

Try playing Fortnite on 285k chip.

 

Awesome build, regarding lower temps is nice however you are trading that with lower performance aswell, 14900KS fully tuned is going to be faster than 285k in most games. There are some exceptions where 285k will be slightly better but only two or so games.. Rest 14900ks better option for games.

 

Thanks! I'm not experiencing any loss in performance. There's always pros and cons though. For example, one could easily say a 14KS lifespan doesn't have the longevity a 285K has because 285K runs much cooler and is more power efficient. That in itself is an "upgrade."

 

As an early adopter of the Z890 platform, 285K has been my daily driver since its launch back in October. Previously, I was a Z790 14900KS guy (SP108 P122 E81 MC86). 14KS was a lot of fun, but 285K is bae now.

These are the top 4 things I love about Core Ultra 9 285K:

1. Runs Super Cool (delid not necessary at all) - 14KS is a hot head, even direct-die on water it doesn't take much to get temps agitated. 285K on the other hand is cool as can be. My rig is literally 99% silent under operation because it consumes a lot less power which translates to nice cool temps. Even during max 4K gaming or full production tasks, my fans/pumps RARELY ramp up. I love it and it's hands-down one of my favorite things about Arrow Lake. Take a peek at the core temps and power draw in my screenshots. With the same hardware and 4K settings, my direct-die cooled 14KS core temps were 20c-30c higher.

2. Far Lower Power Consumption Than Previous Gen - I'm not a stickler about power, but as mentioned above, the difference is very significant. With 285K I can play the same games I played with 14KS using half the amount of power and side by side I can't tell a difference in gameplay. You can use just about any cooler you want for 285K and that opens up the door for a lot of options.

Mortal Kombat
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Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine 2 - No Issues With EASY ANTI CHEAT
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Cyberpunk 2077
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Iron Harvest
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R23 10 Minutes @ 287w max power. 14KS max power was 450w.
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3. CUDIMM Memory At 9000MHz Boots on XMP 2 With Zero Tuning 😮 (**2 Dimms) - I haven't gotten heavy into overclocking ram yet and with CUDIMM on Z890 it looks like I'll never have to because every 8800Mhz kit I've tried can boot 9000Mhz+ XMP 2, with no tuning on this 4 dimm board. I was able to boot 9100MHz, but it wasn't stable, but with zero tuning it's still impressive. I definitely couldn't boot 9000MHz on XMP 2 with my 14KS. I daily drive now with stock XMP 2 settings @ 8800Mhz.

4. Sexy Z890 Motherboards - Obviously personal preference, but I love the new Z890 boards and they come with a lot of great features. Pick your poison.

My Current Z890 Extreme/285K Build.
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2x 8800MHz CUDIMM, XMP2, No Tuning, Max Speed = 9100MHz
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4x 8800MHz CUDIMM, XMP2, No Tuning, Max Speed = 6400MHz
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Fantastic build! I have some laymen's questions, as I have also recently built a 285k build. In my case, it's a 285k, Asrock z890 Nova Wifi 7 mobo, Gigabyte Gamers OC 4080 Super GPU, Corsair Dominator Platinum 64GB 6600Mhz 4x16 (4800Mhz XMP overclocked to 5066Mhz. It was a vanity choice. I love the RGB on these Dominators. Reminds me of all the terrible 1950s SciFi movies I love.) Crucial T705 2TB M.2, Lian Li Galahad2 LCD AIO, 10 Sl Infinity fans, Lian Li 011RGB case, 2x32" 1440p monitors. I love my rig, but I'm not much of a gamer. I use it primarily for running Option trading software and stock market stuff.

What is it about your ROG Extreme mobo that makes it worth the $1000 price tag? What does it have or do that my Asrock Nova can't? This is a real question, not meant to seem condescending. Are there overclocking controls in the BIOS that are different and better? Is there something else that sets it apart?

I have a feeling that the answer involves stuff I know next to nothing about, like CPU voltage controllers, VRMs, etc. But I'm all ears because I'm trying to learn the subject of overclocking, which is as opaque as any subject I've ever encountered. Currently, I'm using Intel Extreme to overclock my CPU, because no one yet has explained the best way to manually overclock a 285k in language that a tech moron like myself can understand. I know that Intel is disappointed that very few people understand how beautifully a 285k can be overclocked. But that's their own fault, as they released the thing with no guidance to the experts on best practices. For example, I hear that overclocking the E Cores and underclocking the P Cores leads to better Cinebench 23 scores.

At any rate, you've got quite a rig.

 

The 890 extreme has an OLED Panel and an mini OLED Screen, both which are programmable via Armoury crate. More power stages, the Dimm.2 card for 2x extra M.2 SSD's that can be hotswapped, larger VRM Cooling, and that's about all i can remember off the top of my head.

I had a 690 Extreme and just like the 890 it was a good looking board but way way overpriced.

 

Sick rig you have! Slick and clean looking! Hats off and that with soft "rubber/EPDM tubing" so much easier to work with and still looks badass!

Yeah im also contemplating the Arrow Lake been torn between Arrow Lake and the upcoming 9900X3D...
However i don't play games at 300fps at 1080p sure the 265k/285k run at a staggering 250 fps....compared to other chips.
I just want SMOOTH high stability and high stable support for RAM with XMP, and smooth gaming experience
I just play at 1440p and 4k. Then it becomes more even still looses at certain games compared to Raptor Lake and AMD chips. It's something i don't mind we are talking about 8 to 12% less performance. I hope Intel releases a "fix" to get a little bit more fps.

PS what is your fps in Warhammer 40 Space Marines 2? Its one of those games where Arrow Lake is performing horrible bad like 50% lower performance thats a huge number. Both in 1080p and 1440p and 4k don't know why this is basing this from the video reviews ive seen...The Raptor Lake and AMD chips run that game at example say 120fps the Arrow Lake at 60fps....

 

Sick rig you have! Slick and clean looking! Hats off and that with soft "rubber/EPDM tubing" so much easier to work with and still looks badass!

Yeah im also contemplating the Arrow Lake been torn between Arrow Lake and the upcoming 9900X3D...
However i don't play games at 300fps at 1080p sure the 265k/285k run at a staggering 250 fps....compared to other chips.
I just want SMOOTH high stability and high stable support for RAM with XMP, and smooth gaming experience
I just play at 1440p and 4k. Then it becomes more even still looses at certain games compared to Raptor Lake and AMD chips. It's something i don't mind we are talking about 8 to 12% less performance. I hope Intel releases a "fix" to get a little bit more fps.

PS what is your fps in Warhammer 40 Space Marines 2? Its one of those games where Arrow Lake is performing horrible bad like 50% lower performance thats a huge number. Both in 1080p and 1440p and 4k don't know why this is basing this from the video reviews ive seen...The Raptor Lake and AMD chips run that game at example say 120fps the Arrow Lake at 60fps....

Thank you! 285K will suit you well. That's funny you say that about Warhammer. I've been playing it for months with my friends and haven't ever stopped to think about what the fps is. I play in 4K, maxed out graphics and it's as smooth as it was with my 14KS, so to hear that it was said to perform horrible is crazy to me. I have a video of actual 4K gameplay that I will be uploading soon. Warhammer is in it.

 

Sorry to say, but for a flagship product with a premium price tag, the new Core series is kinda ass

 

This does not use CU-DIMM.

 

No idea why anyone would go from a 14900KS/Z790 platform to 285K/Z890, but each to their own i guess.

 

It's the usual business upgrade, which is mandatory. So instead of wasting money on a failed AMD setup, best go with the latest Intel Gear. 100% reliable and secure compared to any AMD disaster.

Sorry, in the world of business where there is no sponsorship involved (AMD subsidised) setups, it will always be INTEL every time. Especially now with their latest hardware.

Also, very easy in getting all the hardware with no problems from our finance unit. They simply don't care when it comes to Intel, but if you mention 'AMD' then watch the warning lights and rampant suspicion and denial, coming from them.

You'll get sacked if you make out a purchase for anything linked to AMD. Just not allowed under any circumstance. Welcome to Convict Town business ethics in charge, 100% Intel Support for 2024 and beyond .

 

Who still plays at 1080P i get it it's to really test the cpu.
But most people play at 1440p or even 4k (big tv's hooked up to a performing gpu)
Then the difference becomes smaller.
I do find the performance of the Arrow Lake extremely lackluster on Space Marines 2 we are talking about around 50% less performance then the Raptor Lake and AMD chips judging from reviews on YT. Are they going to send a fix for this? I hope Intel will bring in performance updates for the Arrow Lake.

I do like the power for non gaming tasks tho and gaming overall is plenty good. Seems like a worthy successor to my secondary workstation (an old i7-6800K). I will make a final decision once the AMD 9900X3D seems things got leaked regarding 3D cash its "single" which gamers are not to happy about either way have to wait till next year. Been awhile since i last used an AMD rig. The cost for either an Arrow Lake or AMD 9900X3D rig is about the same.

 

I've seen so many people say "nurr urr you don't need good CPU if you play at 4k"

Well how about y'all understand and learn that average FPS is not everything.

Despite FPS being the same, gameplay could be quite different in reality as FPS can be more stable on one system vs other, better 1% and 0.1% lows..


Example: (Btw this is for both platforms)

 

it seems like a lot of people running Intel CPUs are getting them for free from Asus and Intel.

 

I'm gonna be honest, if Intel/ASUS gave me a free 285k and an extreme board, i'd gladly accept it.




And then sell it off here for way way under MSRP.

 

This is either a paid/sponsored/"influenced" thread or it's just a regular person with major copium.

 

It's very obvious when they throw shade at AMD when AMD was never mentioned by anyone but themselves.

They speak like the Userbenchmark owner.

It's possible this site is also infiltrated with disguised employees to try and shift the thoughts of the new Intel lineup.

The OP took to reddit also saying how unbiased they are, why so defensive?

That or they really think it is FX vs Sandy bridge again, except they have the FX product.

 

I planned to buy Z890 Taichi OCF too, but when i saw the leaked performance i already switched rather to AMD. 285K would be slower in gaming than my previous i5-12400@5.4GHz. With Asus X870E Hero i have the same good looking as you, plus everything else with a cheaper 9700X and much better gaming performance as it is power limit unlocked and memory optimization happened to 55ns latency,

 

Do you always play in a room at 18c?

 

Oh, nice, so it is even overclocked then? Well, 24H2 being slower is a bug, it should be fixed or will be fixed soon.

Are you sure?

They mention that they indeed used cu-dimm for 285k since day 1.

Except his testing is likely garbage given he shows 7200 to be exactly the same. (Techspot is HUB) Not sure if he was in gear 4 or what the deal is. Results like that make me lose confidence in anything he does.

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K Review

Intel is ready to unveil its latest Core Ultra desktop CPU series. With a tile-based design, Arrow Lake marks a major architectural shift, aiming for improved performance...

www.techspot.com

 

Except his testing is likely garbage given he shows 7200 to be exactly the same. (Techspot is HUB) Not sure if he was in gear 4 or what the

Intel Core Ultra 9 285K Review

Intel is ready to unveil its latest Core Ultra desktop CPU series. With a tile-based design, Arrow Lake marks a major architectural shift, aiming for improved performance...

www.techspot.com

In my MSI motherboard any slight manipulation and it goes to Gear 4.

Well, this will have to be redone as soon as this comes out [FIRMWARE] Intel ME (Z890) (or maybe even newer than this v2.2 Intel ME).

 

I like my 285k more also. Have my evga dark z790 and 14900k just sitting on my speaker. Probably give to my son soon.

 

Miss EVGA and wish they were still in it the way they were...

 

What are the voltages for P57 E51? Seems a lot better than mine. The best I can get is P56 E50.

 

hey guys was wondering if someone here with a new Intel CPU can run some Cinebench R23 runs multicore? thank you and looking good here from what I seen..

 

This is awesome - I like mine as well. However, where are you getting CUDIMM kits?

 

 

Considering you only have a 2080 Ti anyway.. faster CPU's are a moot point and these chips are no slouch for work loads.