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good choice but no 4 way Sli or Quad fire if using dual slot cards, unless you put them under water.
I was planning on only doing 2 graphics cards not anything crazier then that. No need, so I should be fine.
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And the HAF X has a million freaking fans. lol
 
Id stay away from MSI, but it doesn't seem bad, not many people have them. In general motherboards are very important part of your system, if you want 4 way sli you need a very capable board with nf200 chips, such as the UD9 has 2xnf200 chips so you can do real 4way 16x sli.
 
I got the MSI big bang xpower, and over all it works pretty good (was able to overclock higher then my other 2 boards ), if you plan to tri-sli you only gonna have 16x 8x 8x speed and quad sli.. err.. lets not mention that, the sata 6gb control form what i read (since im not using 6gb) is not so good with raid and you are better off using the sataII's but overall good board.

I was deciding between the 3way classified and the rampage III at the time and this was the most for the money then (got it for $240) but now these other boards are alot cheaper so its just all about what your looking for
 
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This is what I planned on getting,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130289
is that good "enough" as compared to the others?

I'd prefer not to wait to get the huge classified because I don't have the money to tie up in a rebate and I wouldn't even use all the bloody features, lol. But if it is really worth it I'd do it.

I planned on getting the MSI one because of the PCI slots and the onboard 3.0 and 6.0gb/s.
The MSI as well as several others are "good enough". There are several mb from msi, evga, asus, and gigabyte that offer usb3.0 and sata6. I'm not sure what you mean about pci slots on the msi mb you linked, since it doesn't have any. All the slots are pci-e. My mb has all pci-e slots and I certainly don't need them. Matter of fact, I use only one right now and have used two in the past. I never actually tried tri or quad sli.

There are several mb's from the mentioned manufactures that will do what you need. It comes down to price, warranty, support, looks, and maybe slot spacing.

I honestly haven't read too much about that msi in particular, so I can't really comment on it. It doesn't seem like many people use msi for the x58 compared to asus, gigabyte, or evga. Now for the P55, msi motherboards are very popular.
 
Im loving my ASUS P6X58D-E i run 4000-4200 and got it up to 4700 for benchmarking. Also got my gskill ddr1600 pi ram to 1900mhz with 7-9-7 timings.
 
FYI i forgot to mention something i have not seen from asus or msi or evga, that is that every new bios gigabyte releases, they have an update for the marvell sata III controller onboard, the most recent update, seems to have fixed 99% of the issues with the marvell controller being crappy. The most recent one was released 3-4 days ago, and my c300 saw improvements in benchmarks, and now the raid bios for the marvell controller is very nice. Just get a x58a-ud5 rev 2.0 and call it a day. If you want true 4x sli x16 get the UD9, 2xnf200 chips unlock the extra bandwidth needed for 16x for each card, but thats only if you are using cards that see a big jump from 16x opposed to 8x, only a few do like the 480.
 
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First off don't trust newegg, i never do, this is what gigabyte says: Support for DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800 MHz memory modules

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3450#sp

I run ddr3 1600 and it works perfectly. Here is what you need to know, the motherboard is the least of your worries in the ram department, now that the internal memory controller is on the processor, you need to deal with the processor not the motherboard for ram settings, but of course you use the motherboard's bios to do so. Anyways if you are planing to run 2000mhz ram, which i very much advise against, is because 2000mhz is an overclock that is very sought after but also a catch 22, you have to pump a lot of voltage through the internal memory controller to do so, even though the ram can run at those speeds, the cpu's IMC can't do it easily. Also one more thing, intel states maximum supported ddr3 speed for 900 series is 1333mhz, Personally I would say buy a nice 1600mhz kit and dont worry about it.
 
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First off don't trust newegg, i never do, this is what gigabyte says: Support for DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800 MHz memory modules

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3450#sp

That means I can't use RAM that is as 2000 mhz or 1600 mhz, right?
 
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FYI i forgot to mention something i have not seen from asus or msi or evga, that is that every new bios gigabyte releases, they have an update for the marvell sata III controller onboard, the most recent update, seems to have fixed 99% of the issues with the marvell controller being crappy. The most recent one was released 3-4 days ago, and my c300 saw improvements in benchmarks, and now the raid bios for the marvell controller is very nice. Just get a x58a-ud5 rev 2.0 and call it a day. If you want true 4x sli x16 get the UD9, 2xnf200 chips unlock the extra bandwidth needed for 16x for each card, but thats only if you are using cards that see a big jump from 16x opposed to 8x, only a few do like the 480.


My asus updated the marvel when i flashed it from 0108 to 0303 i thk they all do but asus does not list alot about bios updates.
 
no that is definitely not true, it should say ram upto 2200mhz. You need to just get a 1600mhz kit, and google "i can't get my ram to run at 2000mhz" b/c you need skill to do that with any motherboard. The UD5 is more than capable to handle any ram that is ddr3. Just make sure its DDR3, there are 3 sticks(for tri channel), and the speed is 1600mhz or above.
 
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First off don't trust newegg, i never do, this is what gigabyte says: Support for DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800 MHz memory modules

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pro...px?pid=3450#sp

I run ddr3 1600 and it works perfectly. Here is what you need to know, the motherboard is the least of your worries in the ram department, now that the internal memory controller is on the processor, you need to deal with the processor not the motherboard for ram settings, but of course you use the motherboard's bios to do so. Anyways if you are planing to run 2000mhz ram, which i very much advise against, is because 2000mhz is an overclock that is very sought after but also a catch 22, you have to pump a lot of voltage through the internal memory controller to do so, even though the ram can run at those speeds, the cpu's IMC can't do it easily. Also one more thing, intel states maximum supported ddr3 speed for 900 series is 1333mhz, Personally I would say buy a nice 1600mhz kit and dont worry about it.


Any "nice" 1600mhz triple channel kits you would recommend?

This is what I was going to get.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231413

Also you never told me if that mobo was the rev 2 on newegg or not as I have no clue. haha
 
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My asus updated the marvel when i flashed it from 0108 to 0303 i thk they all do but asus does not list alot about bios updates.

Well thats good i would expect them too, the last bios update i did was my second marvell bios upgrade, the one before was in early september and the most recent was 4 days ago. When is that asus bios from?
 
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Any "nice" 1600mhz triple channel kits you would recommend?

This is what I was going to get.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231413

I've heard many good things about corsair dominator series. Two things to look for in ram are mhz(1600), and timing(9,9,9 or 7,7,7 or 8,8,8, or 7,6,7) whatever combination the ram is produced in. Now ram latency is better lower, and lower timings provide that. How you calculate latency is timing(the first one)/mhz so 7/1600 woudl give you the latency of ram that is marketed as DDR3 1600 (7,7,7)

It deff is rev 2.0 b/c they have been shipping rev 2.0 from newegg for a decent amount of time rev 2.0.
 
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Well thats good i would expect them too, the last bios update i did was my second marvell bios upgrade, the one before was in early september and the most recent was 4 days ago. When is that asus bios from?

thats my 1 gripe with my board the last bios update is 5 months old almost.

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Any "nice" 1600mhz triple channel kits you would recommend?

This is what I was going to get.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231413

Also you never told me if that mobo was the rev 2 on newegg or not as I have no clue. haha


Id recommed the pi ram my F3-12800CL7T-6GBPI is running stable at 1900mhz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231335
 
The MSI is a great overclocker,just not the most popular.It has outperformed the Gigabyte boards in many reviews,all which were very good.The RAM you selected is excellent.
 
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