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12Honk34

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I just got home, turned the PC on and wanted to run GTA 4 again but it crashes, every time after one or two minutes.

The screen just freezes and becomes black after about ten seconds and nothing else happens, can't even close the process, I have to reset.

The last time though a bluescreen came up and told me about some errors. Then I had to reset as well.

I already used the GTA 4 repair option and installed the latest patch again afterwards, the exceptions keep coming as before, nothing changed.

As I said, no crashes/freezes the last time I played. I shut the PC down, turned it on again a few hours later and GTA 4 starts crashing.

Any ideas? Thanks.
 
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Originally Posted by Jspoon View Post
I had this same problem. For me, it turned out that my RAM wasn't stable at the speeds I set it at
Didn't modify my ram settings.

I'm halfway through GTA IV and didn't have any crashes until today.
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Originally Posted by 12Honk34 View Post
The last time though a bluescreen came up and told me about some errors. Then I had to reset as well.
You should tell us about some errors. Or maybe be a bit more specific. BSOD's are usually a good indication of what is making your computer crash.

Aye-aye captain!!
 
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I have similar issues with GTA IV.

I believe that it has something to do with the AMD Catalyst Drivers. Before Catalyst 10.10; I had GTA IV crashing constantly, from Catalyst 10.5 to 10.9; GTA IV would crash almost within minutes of starting play.

The screen would freeze, then go black after a minute, and then the game crashes, and I can't do anything unless I hit Control Alt Delete to access my Task Manager, and force the program to shut down..

Then after Catalyst 10.10; I found that GTA IV ran much better. Now I can play the game for about 30 minutes, before it crashes.

I started with Catalyst 10.3 and 10.4 earlier in the year, and I never had problems with those on GTA IV. So I am honestly thinking it has something to do with the drivers, and I say that because I noticed both of the first two Posters, are running AMD chips, on AMD chipsets, with ATI cards, with DDR3-1600... just like me.

Perhaps the Catalyst drivers aren't liking 1600 DDR?
 
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The crashes occur as well in other games. I checked with Modern Warfare 2, it gives me the same crash and error blue screen. Don't know what the blue screen says though, it stays only a few seconds before reboot. Is the blue screen info saved anywhere?

What I noticed in Catalyst Control Center is that my idle speeds, outside games, have suddenly dropped to 157 Mhz GPU Clock and 300 Mhz Memory Clock. I don't know how high they were before but they were much higher.

The fans seem all to spin. I checked the Graphic card, CPU and PSU fans in idle.

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According to MSI Afterburner the gpu temperatures are at 61°C and 59°C in idle, no game running.



I made the screenshot a little later but temps are still at 58°C and 53°C.

I let Modern Warfare 2 rund for about 1 minute and the temps were up to 70°C and 69°C.
 
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That normal for your GPU. With my 5850 running overclocked at 950mhz; its barely topping 65c while playing things like MW2 or BF:BC2... Now mind, thats on a 5850 and its not quite the monster that a 5970 is
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GTA IV on the other hand, does not utilize the GPU as much as most games. It was a very bad port from the consoles, and instead its PC version is much more demanding on the CPU rather then the GPU. In fact, GTA IV almost requires a multi-core processor; in that the game WANTS such a chip to run better, and runs worse on single/dual core chips. In fact GTA IV literally hogs all the cores that it can, to run!

This is why it is also a possibility of Ram instability because your Ram Controller is on the CPU. you may not be tweaking the Ram, but if you're tweaking the CPU, that does also effect the Ram.

As for your Blue Screens, yes they are recorded in the Event Viewer, which can be found in the Control Panel... see THIS LINK HERE to learn how to understand the Event Viewer!
 
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