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Wait... You don't mean connection as in ping do you?
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What is that 965 BE running at? Stock speeds?
Yes.

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To elaborate, you probably aren't using your full page file as it is. WoW doesn't use that much unless you are running a crap ton of addons.
no addons. haven't updated them yet.
 
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That's also why, probably. Older addons cause LUA errors, and LUA errors cause lag.
"do not load out of date addons" IS checked. therefore *none* are loaded

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lol
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"do not load out of date addons" IS checked. therefore *none* are loaded
I wasn't even aware there was a "do not load out of date addons". I thought there was only "load out of date".
 
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I recently bought WotLK when it was on sale, so i started to get back into playing, but I get about 15-30 FPS outside on Sigrig and 1-8 FPS when high up on my flying mount and looking around. What is holding me back? all of my other games play decent at this res (6056x1080) why not WoW?

Edit just noticed there are 12 instances of svchost running. ***?
Theres an svchost imposter virus you have to watch out for, it may or may not be spelled correctly as well so make sure that isn't happening. If anything get malwarebytes, scan your computer, than keep it running while you play wow, if it catches svchost it will tell you and you can quarantine it. That's what I do and it catches "svchost" for me every time I turn on my computer.
 
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I wasn't even aware there was a "do not load out of date addons". I thought there was only "load out of date".
If it's not checked they don't load. It's the same thing, he just said it backwards. And what's with the long quote that appears to have nothing to do with the thread?
 
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I wasn't even aware there was a "do not load out of date addons". I thought there was only "load out of date".
whatever it was I have it set to not load those addons, which right now is all of them. its been a while lol
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Theres an svchost imposter virus you have to watch out for, it may or may not be spelled correctly as well so make sure that isn't happening. If anything get malwarebytes, scan your computer, than keep it running while you play wow, if it catches svchost it will tell you and you can quarantine it. That's what I do and it catches "svchost" for me every time I turn on my computer.
I've been thinking about doing a reinstall of windows bc I have so many different problems and even windows can be laggy at times. not to mention 2.25 GB of system memory in use with only firefox and malware bytes open(scanning now btw). will this help?
 
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I've been thinking about doing a reinstall of windows bc I have so many different problems and even windows can be laggy at times. not to mention 2.25 GB of system memory in use with only firefox and malware bytes open(scanning now btw). will this help?
A fresh install will fix any software issues you are having. Just use a combo of AVG MalwareBytes, and Spybot S&D. Run them in succession in safe mode and you should be 99.99% clean of anything. I suggest safe mode because there are some viruses that won't be fully cleaned if not in safe mode as well as some that can totally lock you out of using a browser or running any type of cleaning program.
 
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If it's not checked they don't load. It's the same thing, he just said it backwards. And what's with the long quote that appears to have nothing to do with the thread?
I think someone posted it here and it got deleted. click on the little blue arrow in the quote.....
 
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A fresh install will fix any software issues you are having. Just use a combo of AVG MalwareBytes, and Spybot S&D. Run them in succession in safe mode and you should be 99.99% clean of anything. I suggest safe mode because there are some viruses that won't be fully cleaned if not in safe mode as well as some that can totally lock you out of using a browser or running any type of cleaning program.
this is kind of unrelated, but ever since the third time I turned on my pc with my 5970 i have to hit the reset switch on the PSU and then start my PC again for it to post. I really doubt reinstallling windows will fix that, but what do you think? And how could I fix it?
 
My sigrig runs WoW brilliantly everywhere but Outland so far... I had everything on Ultra apart from shadows which was down by 2, to "Good"

In Orgrimmar and Dalaran I was getting a solid 60fps (Vsync on).

When I leveled a character and got to Outland my FPS fell to around 25-35 whilst flying in the air around Zangermarsh/Shattrah/Nagrand. This was causing all sorts of skipping which was unplayable (probably not for most people but when you're used to it being perfect...)

My overclock is prime95 12 hours stable, 50x IBT max stable and countless hours of gaming on black ops, new vegas and WoW stable, but I decided to test it out without the overclock - FIXED! Not. It reset WoW to full screen, when I put it back to full screen windowed and started to alt+tab a lot I got massive fps drops.

Basically, anytime I have full screen windowed mode and start alt+tabbing my FPS takes a plunge and never recovers. It's extremely annoying but not exactly sure what to do about it....
 
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this is kind of unrelated, but ever since the third time I turned on my pc with my 5970 i have to hit the reset switch on the PSU and then start my PC again for it to post. I really doubt reinstallling windows will fix that, but what do you think? And how could I fix it?
Have you checked the temperates on your CPU when you get it to boot into Windows? I can't see it being a power supply problem although it does sound like one.

I can't see an overclock in your sigrig but if you have then this can be a common error that you simply haven't got enough VCore or QPI/IMC to boot in your voltages.

*IF* you are overclocked I suggest starting by upping your QPI/IMC voltage by 0.25 (or the lowest incriment). See how that goes after a SHUTDOWN (Not a restart as this won't go to post). If you have the same problem try putting the VCore up by one incriment too, and keep going like that.
 
After reading everything here, so many good advices makes it hard to give my own. I did a ton of testing on my rig, although inferior (dual core), I have a few things to add.

In the beta, then in 4.0, SLI and ultra water would drop frames about by about half. There was something else with ultra shadows and the water, too, with SLI. I think CF was affected as well, not sure though. The new area, Vashjir, is an all water area near Stormwind and hit my system hard even with laid back settings at High, had to drop a few to Good to stay above 45fps.

I know my dual core holds back my performance a lot because I can see max cpu in a few key circumstances. In raids I get 60fps, until we engage the boss, then I drop to ~25fps even overclocked to 3.85ghz. Same drop in Dalaran at peak hours. I get it again with max distance + max shadows outdoors with a lot of trees. As others said, one notch under ultra shadows is key ("Good" shadows). "Good" view distance also seems to help [me].

Last thing I noticed. GPU ram was maxed out in some cases (1gb) and if you went over it probably would drop your fps. It does exactly that on my laptop, but to the extreme. You might be over the 2gb vram using Eyefinity, especially when other's suggest dropping AA. That's exactly what I have to do on my laptop.

I monitor my system using dual monitors and have CPU, GPU, and NET usages/temps on desktop. Even with my inferior system, I never lag when alt tabbing in windows 7. Now in Vista, alt tabbing would take a while.
I use the following gadgets and they work great, been using them for 2 months now (first one requires CoreTemp for cpu temps)
http://addgadget.com/all_cpu_meter/
http://addgadget.com/network_meter/
http://blog.orbmu2k.de/sidebar-gadge...sidebar-gadget
http://blog.orbmu2k.de/sidebar-gadge...sidebar-gadget
Hopefully this helps some people troubleshooting their system usage.
Ind

Edit: Oh also since I'm new, hello. And if it helps for rep's sake, I am Indpendent (gnome mage) of US-Bronzebeard.
 
You know I totally forgot about DirectX 11 for WoW. Most won't notice a difference but some cards it can make a 20+ fps boost.

Add -d3d11 at the end of the command line. Don't use any " or anything, just put a space, then add that, outside of the " !

For example:

"C:\\programs\\WoW\\wowlaunch.exe" -d3d11
 
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Have you checked the temperates on your CPU when you get it to boot into Windows? I can't see it being a power supply problem although it does sound like one.

I will try that although it should be cold because I only turn on my PC when I'm at home/awake which is about 50% of the time

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WoW is coded like garbage, remember that.

true.

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You know I totally forgot about DirectX 11 for WoW. Most won't notice a difference but some cards it can make a 20+ fps boost.

Add -d3d11 at the end of the command line. Don't use any " or anything, just put a space, then add that, outside of the " !

For example:

"C:\\programs\\WoW\\wowlaunch.exe" -d3d11

tried that and it crashed when I changed the resolution now all I can get is max 1920x1080 -.-
 
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You know I totally forgot about DirectX 11 for WoW. Most won't notice a difference but some cards it can make a 20+ fps boost.

Add -d3d11 at the end of the command line. Don't use any " or anything, just put a space, then add that, outside of the " !

For example:

"C:\\programs\\WoW\\wowlaunch.exe" -d3d11

Keep in mind, that although you set d3d11 and could get a fps boost, you most likely won't see it in previous CPU limiting situations.

To change back you can use a " -d3d9" switch and I think that will fix it. I've done it before, pretty sure that's how I did it.
 
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back in d3d9 mode, and after a BSOD and some settings tweaking I think I am happy with viewdistance: high and shadows: fair everything else maxed. Now to fix my boot issue. lol. I will check temps tomorrow morning when I cold boot. because that's the only time it does it
 
Your CPU is bottlenecking. WoW doesn't care that your graphics card is a God's Gift to the Earth, because it becomes CPU bottlenecked after 5770.

I don't know about AMD CPU's, but you don't have to get i980, WoW loves Ghz, so basically any 2+core intel CPU clocked to 4 - 5 Ghz will see massive fps boost.

And lastly make sure vsync, multisampling, highest shadows, reduce input lag are OFF at all times, these are huge fps killers.

Here is WoW running on my CPU, everything on Ultra, except shadows :

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