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Hi guys,

EDIT: I am based in the UK.

I want to watercool the CPU and GPU of the rig in my signature without buying a new case. My aim is to improve aesthetics, reduce fan noise and achieve higher overclocks. I will use a fan controller to achieve the lower fan speeds.

The problem is that my current case, the CM Storm Scout, is small for watercooling. However I would be happy to mod the case.

I have found a really impressive mod where someone added a XSPC RS240 rad to a Storm Scout by cutting away drive bays. Then they also added an extra XSPC RX120 rad to the back panel.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037100541&postcount=12
He says the pump of the RS240 kit is the same pump as the Rs360 kit, so it can provide sufficient flow for the second rad.

Is this setup a good idea? . As you can see from my signature I am cooling a 2500k and a 580. I would have to find a water block that fits my PNY GTX 580

Also, if I wanted to SLI and overclock another 580 in the future, (with a PSU upgrade) would the 240 rad and the 120 rad be sufficient to cool the CPU and 2 GPUS, all overclocked? Or is this just pushing it too far?
 
#2 ·
you could do it that way, but i would mount the the 240 on the top though . Cut out another whole on top so you can fit the 240 , and personally i would cut off the handle bars, my opinion. The rx 120 i would definitely mount on the bottom, and do push pull, you can get better temps that way. In the future i would get an rs or ex 360 and mount it outside, because having 2 gpu and cpu overclocked needs another rad. Currently i have a 955 at 4.2ghz and a gtx 470 watercooled with a ex 240 rad and my loop hits 55 degrees celcius while gaming. so you'll definitely need another 360.
I am gonna post a few pics and show you what i have done with my CM 690.
 
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#5 ·
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Originally Posted by lemon2 View Post

Hi guys,

I want to watercool the CPU and GPU of the rig in my signature without buying a new case. My aim is to improve aesthetics, reduce fan noise and achieve higher overclocks. I will use a fan controller to achieve the lower fan speeds.

The problem is that my current case, the CM Storm Scout, is small for watercooling. However I would be happy to mod the case.

I have found a really impressive mod where someone added a XSPC RS240 rad to a Storm Scout by cutting away drive bays. Then they also added an extra XSPC RX120 rad to the back panel.
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1037100541&postcount=12
He says the pump of the RS240 kit is the same pump as the Rs360 kit, so it can provide sufficient flow for the second rad.

Is this setup a good idea? . As you can see from my signature I am cooling a 2500k and a 580. I would have to find a water block that fits my PNY GTX 580

Also, if I wanted to SLI and overclock another 580 in the future, (with a PSU upgrade) would the 240 rad and the 120 rad be sufficient to cool the CPU and 2 GPUS, all overclocked? Or is this just pushing it too far?
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Hey, thats my rig, you can get more details in my build log, link is in my sig. I wouldn't go sli and my loop was starting to push its limits with my hardware. Let me know if you need anything and I'll do my best to help out. BTW you should check out the CMSSC link in my sig too, there is more than one way to mount rads in this case. I know of a way you could mount a 360 plus a 120.
 
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Thanks for the reply Kapar07.
I have found an incredible thread where someone modded a 360 rad onto the top of the storm scout without removing the handles.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1062397/red-alert-sr1-chopped-cm-storm-scout-with-360-top-radiator-240-coming-soon
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So if I had a 360 rad on the top and a 240 rad at the front bottom, would that be enough to reach 5GHz on the 2500k and 950MHz on SLI 580s? (Assuming I am lucky and my chips OC decently)
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the guy did a nice job with his case, but try to get one of the rads to be an RX because considering that you gonna overclock the cpu and gpu quite a bit, they are gonna put out a lot of heat.
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
My current plan is to install a thin RS360 rad in the top by using a similar method to Shadow_Foxx's Red Alert SR1 build that I linked to before. He used the Koolance SHR-1020BK shroud. I will ALSO install a thick RX360 rad vertically at the front, taking up all the space where the drivebays and 5.25 inch bays were.

Here is a schematic of my proposed mod, the paintjob and side-panel modding will not affect the water coolingl:
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Would two 360 rads be enough to stay reasonably quiet on my planned overclocks? (i5 2500k @ 5GHz and SLI 580s at 950MHz)

I could get the parts by buying an RX360 kit and a seperate RS360 rad, then the GPU waterblocks and the fans and shroud. However I would prefer to do a custom loop as the Rasa kits do not have interesting tubing, and the pump/reservoir goes in 2 5.25 inch bays, but I will have cut my bays out to make room for the RX360. Also, I don't want to be massively limited by the stock pump in that kit. I don't want to spend much more than £300-400 total. So if a custom loop will be drastically more expensive then I will get the kit.
 
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I'm no watercooling guy, but this will be interesting. I was thinking about watercooling, but than realized I would need nicer components to make it worth while to watercool.
 
#9 ·
I'm not sure if you made measurements but I'm guessing that the rads will hit at the top with the fans. If you go custom I would use the EX over the RS, and you may end up have to use the EX instead of the RX in the front too, just so the rads don't interfere with each other. If they do fit, don't forget you have to run tubing to them too.

Here is a Scout that has the 360 rad up front
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I've come too slaughter your 56k Modem!

Pics taken using my 55-200 f/4-5.6 at various Focals.

2 Seconds Exposure and an aperture of f/8

White Balance Auto, ISO 100

Tripod and Sunpac Flash used.

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This one turned out blurry somehow
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It wasn't in ACR though
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And this pic I do like
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Discussion starter · #10 ·
Ok, going with 2 EX360s seems like a much better idea. I'm definitely going custom then.

I assume my loop should go Pump/res>cpu>rad>gpu>rad>pump/res

I think the next step is for me to start sourcing these parts:
-CPU and GPU waterblocks
-Pump and reservoir
-7/16 hose
-G1/4 to 1/2 barbs x10

The Rasa kits all have 80mm to 120mm radiator brackets. I can't work out what they are or if I should get some.
 
#11 ·
The only loop order you need to know is the res goes before the pump. The water moves fast and equalizes the temp of the water. The brackets are not needed, they are for mounting the rad on the cases back fan location. You might want to look and some rad mounts unless you plan to make your own. Here is a set I like that don't break the bank.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10699/ex-rad-184/EK_UNI_Holder_5070_Liquid_Cooling_Mount_Adapter_-_EK-UNI_Holder_5070.html?tl=g30c95s162#blank

Have you thought about where to place your HDD's, it looks like you are planning on putting them behind you BR drive.
 
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Originally Posted by GoodInk View Post

The only loop order you need to know is the res goes before the pump. The water moves fast and equalizes the temp of the water. The brackets are not needed, they are for mounting the rad on the cases back fan location. You might want to look and some rad mounts unless you plan to make your own. Here is a set I like that don't break the bank.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10699/ex-rad-184/EK_UNI_Holder_5070_Liquid_Cooling_Mount_Adapter_-_EK-UNI_Holder_5070.html?tl=g30c95s162#blank
Have you thought about where to place your HDD's, it looks like you are planning on putting them behind you BR drive.
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Those rad mounts look good, but I should point out at this point that I am UK-based. I will edit the OP to say that.
I think it won't be too hard to pick up L shapes metal mounts like that.

There is a fair amount of space at the bottom of the case, in between the PSU on the left and the 360 rad on the right, so there should be enough room for the BR drive and a number of HDDs and SSDs. They might get a bit hot... but I don't think HDD heat is a big issue.
 
#13 ·
The heat shouldn't be that bad, the air coming out of rads is not that hot
 
#14 ·
i like the idea of one of the rads being in front of the case, but you presumably would want to have the hhd in a stable place.
My suugestion is that you mount the RX 360 outside on the back of the case, you can buy a rad holder, and also get this for a reservoir and pump so you dont have to worry about rad mounts.

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Discussion starter · #15 ·
I was going to create a makeshift HDD and SDD enclosure out of mostly L-shaped pieces of metal to hold them wherever they end up.
Because of this, I would much prefer to still have the CX360 at the front as I would prefer the aesthetics of that.

What is the name of that reservoir & pump?( Your image doesn't link to it.) It looks very nice and compact, but I would like to compare the technical specs of different pumps due to their effect on cooling. I'm not sure why you said that that res/pump stops me from worrying about rad mounts. Or were you referring to the fact that an external rad will not need rad mounts?
 
#16 ·
That looks like the XSPC D5 double bay res.
 
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Originally Posted by lemon2 View Post

I was going to create a makeshift HDD and SDD enclosure out of mostly L-shaped pieces of metal to hold them wherever they end up.
Because of this, I would much prefer to still have the CX360 at the front as I would prefer the aesthetics of that.
What is the name of that reservoir & pump?( Your image doesn't link to it.) It looks very nice and compact, but I would like to compare the technical specs of different pumps due to their effect on cooling. I'm not sure why you said that that res/pump stops me from worrying about rad mounts. Or were you referring to the fact that an external rad will not need rad mounts?
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It's an XSPC Dual Bay 5.25 Reservoir which also houses the pump. What i meant was that if you get this you don't have to worry about getting a separate reservoir along with its mounts. here's a link http://dazmode.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=122_168&products_id=756.
The pump is a D5 Vario which is a very good one. here's the link http://dazmode.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=157_71&products_id=1734
 
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I see you found my beloved Red Alert mod
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I managed to stumble on this thread and I have one main piece of advice: both the EX360 and the RS360 are too thick to fit in the top of the scout without conflicting with the heatsinks on motherboards. There is only 27 or so mm of space between the top of the case and where the motherboard will sit. Since the EX and RS are both 35 mm thick, there is no way they will fit in the top of this case, even with the shroud up top. I had to get the Black Ice Pro III rad as it is only 25mm thick. There is also a magicool rad that is that thin as well, but i cant find it atm. FYI, this one rad cools my 955 at 4.2 and both my 6950s overclocked, temps are 47C max, idle 32C (with Enermax magma 1500 rpm fans). I think a 360 and 240 would be fine for an overclocked 1155 and two 580s, 360s even better. PM me with any specific questions, or post in my work log or this thread, I will be checkin in to see how its goin. Hope this helps mate, glad my mod could be of some help
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Discussion starter · #19 ·
Thanks for taking an interest Shadow_Foxx, your mod is definitely inspirational! I figured this project would be much more fun than buying a Corsair 800D and sticking the rads in there.

I could not find the Black Ice Pro III on a UK website. I did find a slim Magicool radiator, but it is 30mm rather than the 25mm of the Black Ice.
Link to 30mm 360 Magicool Radiator

In other news, I've sourced the blocks now, and the res and pump were easy to find on UK sites.

RESERVOIR: XSPC Acrylic Dual 5.25" Reservoir £50
Since I will have cut out all my 5.25" bays, I will still need to mount this somewhere.

PUMP: Laing D5 Vario £80

CPU BLOCK: XSPC Raystorm £50

GPU BLOCKS: EK-FC580 Acetal and black backplate £80
As far as I can tell this block is the best value for money for reference 580s. I'm not sure how neccesary the backplate is.

Tools
Dremel 4000 w/ flex shaft
Any old jig saw and drill
Low adhesive tape
WD-40
eyes and ear protection
Rasp, file and sand paper
 
#20 ·
Hi!

You can mount the 240mm radiator at the bottom of the case, and a 120mm at the back.

Check out the CM Storm Spectre in my signature, or look at my albums and you can see how it fits.
But it may bump into the PSU cables, but it will fit
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