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How long should I run Unigine Heaven to determine the max real-world temperature of my GPU? Or should I just run it in benchmark mode and leave it until finished?
 
At least 3 loops in the game. The benchmark is what 2-3minutes long. So by the time you get to around 6-10minutes it'll top out at max temp.

Although, another thing to consider is how much heat your CPU puts out. If you've got air cooling on your CPU and your playing a heavy CPU intensive game like bf3, the CPU cooling could dump some warmer air into the case, bumping up the ambient temp in the case, and thus increasing the max temp of the GPU by a few *C when playing a game compared to heaven.
 
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At least 3 loops in the game. The benchmark is what 2-3minutes long. So by the time you get to around 6-10minutes it'll top out at max temp.
Although, another thing to consider is how much heat your CPU puts out. If you've got air cooling on your CPU and your playing a heavy CPU intensive game like bf3, the CPU cooling could dump some warmer air into the case, bumping up the ambient temp in the case, and thus increasing the max temp of the GPU by a few *C when playing a game compared to heaven.
Oh ok. So you're saying that Unigine Heaven is minimally loading the CPU?
 
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How long should I run Unigine Heaven to determine the max real-world temperature of my GPU? Or should I just run it in benchmark mode and leave it until finished?
Heaven only taxes the system to about 98%. That last 2% will get you locked up in real world games. Run a game like crysis/metro/bf3 which will tax the complete system the best, then check you temp logs.
 
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Heaven only taxes the system to about 98%. That last 2% will get you locked up in real world games. Run a game like crysis/metro/bf3 which will tax the complete system the best, then check you temp logs.
What do you mean "locked up"?

Is there a crysis/metro/bf3 benchmark program that I can run so that I won't install the whole game and play it just to see my temps?
 
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What do you mean "locked up"?
Is there a crysis/metro/bf3 benchmark program that I can run so that I won't install the whole game and play it just to see my temps?
Just run Heaven for 3 loops making sure v-sync is off
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Each run is about 7 minutes iirc!
 
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Just run Heaven for 3 loops making sure v-sync is off
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Each run is about 7 minutes iirc!
Is there a loop count there or something? Or should I just manually monitor the progress of the test?

So only vsync is off and everything else is set to max? That is:

API: DirectX 11
Tessellation: Extreme
Shaders: High
Anisotropy: 16x
Stereo 3D: Disabled
Multi monitor: unchecked
Anti-aliasing: 8x
Full screen: checked
Resolution: system

Now where do I turn off vsync and why do I need to turn it off?
 
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Is there a loop count there or something? Or should I just manually monitor the progress of the test?
So only vsync is off and everything else is set to max?
There is no loop count!
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But I've monitored Heaven and three runs gets my cards up to max temp
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And it'll take about 20 minutes to do the three runs!
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There is no loop count!
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But I've monitored Heaven and three runs gets my cards up to max temp
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And it'll take about 20 minutes to do the three runs!
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Thanks. I edited my post above for my question regarding vsync, hope you can also share info about this
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Thanks. I edited my post above for my question regarding vsync, hope you can also share info about this
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As long as V-sync is off, Heaven will basically max out your GPU
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So the settings wont matter really, so set them how you like!
I just run default settings with tessellation set to normal
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As long as V-sync is off, Heaven will basically max out your GPU
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So the settings wont matter really, so set them how you like!
I just run default settings with tessellation set to normal
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Oh ok. Do I disable Vsync in the NVIDIA control panel (force off) ?

If Vsync is enabled, Heaven won't max out the GPU?
 
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Yes, make sure it's off in the NVidia CP
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As you say, it might not max out the GPU otherwise
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But when playing games I do need to enable Vsync?
 
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But when playing games I do need to enable Vsync?
I do, but I use "Adaptive V-Sync"
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The trouble with V-sync was if the fps dropped below 60fps. V-sync would drop your fps to something like 30fps
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But they have sorted this in the new 300 drivers
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It does mean I'm using a beta driver. But the only difference between beta and WHQL drivers is that M$ has tested the WHQL ones!
So IMO the beta drivers are fine
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301.24 BETA drivers that most of us are using
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Heaven only taxes the system to about 98%. That last 2% will get you locked up in real world games. Run a game like crysis/metro/bf3 which will tax the complete system the best, then check you temp logs.
What do you mean "locked up"?

Is there a crysis/metro/bf3 benchmark program that I can run so that I won't install the whole game and play it just to see my temps?
I mean as in crash, bsod. If you want to find your max heat point, run prime + furmark for 5 minutes. Running heaven won't make as much heat if that's really what you're after. And what I was referring to with the lock up is that Heaven isn't that great of a stability tester. Spending a lot of X time tweaking in Heaven is meaningless when 3 minutes of Crysis/BF3/Metro will lock the machine up. Heaven only gets you most of the way there, and obviously that's not really enough.
 
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I mean as in crash, bsod. If you want to find your max heat point, run prime + furmark for 5 minutes. Running heaven won't make as much heat if that's really what you're after. And what I was referring to with the lock up is that Heaven isn't that great of a stability tester. Spending a lot of X time tweaking in Heaven is meaningless when 3 minutes of Crysis/BF3/Metro will lock the machine up. Heaven only gets you most of the way there, and obviously that's not really enough.
But which do you recommend I use when I'm looking for overclocking stability? Is there a standalone Crysis/BF3/Metro program only made for this purpose?
 
BF3 has a free game play that you can download. Heaven doesn't really tax the cards as already stated.

BF3 free play
 
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BF3 has a free game play that you can download. Heaven doesn't really tax the cards as already stated.
BF3 free play
Ok. My MSI Hawk GeForce GTX 560M already maxes out at 79C after running Heaven. That is already after replacing the stock TIM with Prolimatech PK-3. Is that temp normal? I imaging it to go higher with BF3 as you guys explained earlier
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Are you running the stock fan settings or have you created a custom fan curve. You may need to get more aggressive with the fan curve if you have not done so. I know folks have different ideas of what's loud, but when playing games I can't hear any fans over the sound of the game so I go aggressive. Just a thought.
 
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Are you running the stock fan settings or have you created a custom fan curve. You may need to get more aggressive with the fan curve if you have not done so. I know folks have different ideas of what's loud, but when playing games I can't hear any fans over the sound of the game so I go aggressive. Just a thought.
I'm using the stock fan settings but with the mechanical fan switch of the card set to "Turbo". Yeah, I care less about noise because I can't hear the fans too when I'm gaming. How do you modify the fan curve of the video card?

Oh and btw, my ambient temps are quite high, aroun 30~33°C. What max temps should I be expecting? I know that the Hawk has a very good cooler, right? It's the main reason I opt to buy it over other variants of the 560M.
 
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