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Discussion starter · #22 ·
I think that if it were air bubbles, slowing down the pump wouldn't work to begin with, at least I don't see a reasonable explanation to this. Sure, in some cases it may be air bubble, and in these cases slowing down the pump does not help, but in most cases it does.

ED: cases, cases, cases... poor vocabulary is poor
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I'd personally like to thank wlw for the voltage dropper. I really recommend this if anyone is having a pump-grinding sound from your Corsair coolers.

I experienced similar problems with everyone with my h80 pump making an HDD-like scratching sound. Corsair advised me to leave the case on its side and let the air bubbles be slowly removed from the pump. We'll i've been waiting for over a month now and nothing worked, so I decided to go with the voltage dropper fix. Here's a before and after video.

Delivery was extremely quick, shipped out last tuesday from Poland, arrived in California today (monday) Thanks a bunch!
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Discussion starter · #24 ·
Hey friend, that's beautiful!

The noise is super irritating because while it's not very loud, it can be heard over anything else and is quite disturbing.
I'm glad it worked for you so well.
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And that's a nice PC too
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For some folks the effect isn't so dramatic, the noise is lessened but not completely gone.
I've analyzed the internals of the Hydro series units and I see a couple of points for improvement, in particular one that could fix this problem once and for all.
I'd need one of those units that I can't sacrifice for testing but that I can't do so theories will remain theories.
I don't know however why Corsair hasn't officially addressed this noise issue yet...
 
A small update.

I've been running with the dropper connected for 4 days now and it is still oh so wonderfully quiet!
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Although I don't have a fancy video like ilikepie45290 does here is a before and after image of the temps of the CPU in idle mode.

The text is in swedish though.
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Before
http://i42.tinypic.com/29ft8j5.jpg

After 4 days.
http://i41.tinypic.com/10hm5tu.jpg

So huge thanks again to wlw wl for all the help!
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Cheers!
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/Per
 
I just bought an h80 pump 2 days ago and got that horrible grinding noise

im glad i came here and after reading this thread a few taps on one of the hose fixed it right up

air i guess

so anyway just signed up to say thank you
 
I gotta thank my lucky stars, got a H100 and dont have that problem (knock on wood it does not happen)
 
I own the H100 with the grinding noise
First I tried what's suggested on corsair forums which is laying the computer on its side for a while and gentle hits on the pump and tubes in case its because of air.
I noticed that the pump was quiet when the computer was down on its side but as soon as it was back to normal position the pump was back to the grinding noise.

I RMA'd the H100

Received the second one a few days ago, same grinding noise, and again no noise when computer on its side (I'm starting to think it was designed and tested only in that position before going retail
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Today I tried the diode fix, which dropped the RPM from 2163 to 1953 but it didn't go quiet like other peoples here.
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Just got a 2nd RMA approved (fortunately I don't pay shipping for RMA with NCIX).

I don't mind doing RMAs as I still have the cooling that came with the cpu and as long as I don't pay for shipping (thanks to NCIX) but it's a bit a pain in the a.. to get the radiator in and out of the case everytime.

I wish the next one will be better or that at least the diode fix will make it quiet, I like the look of the H100 in my case.

BTW Thanks to wlw wl for sharing its knowledge !
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Originally Posted by Muttley916 View Post

OP Thanks! .... I just did the 1n4001 diode fix and it worked as described... Pump is now silent.... Now to get quieter fans lol... This is my second Hydro water cooler... I exchanged my H100 for an H80.... Same pump noise...
IN4001 diode from Radio Shack - Check
Soldering Iron - Check
Flux - Check
Heat Shrink - Check
PSU 4pin Molex Extension - Check
Note: Remember to note which direction the silver polarity mark on diode from pic in this thread.
Rattle HDD noise eliminated from Hydro Series Pump - Priceless
Thanks Again!
-Mutt
Culprit: Intel Water cooler's pump (by asetek)

Soldering Iron: Hakko FX-888 - Check
Flux: Flux Pen - Check

PSU 4pin Molex Extension - Gotta find one.

I do not know much about electronics. I will purchase enough to make 3 various cables of diff diodes. How much does 1N4001 reduce? and how much do the others reduce? I want one that'll reduce less while the other reduces more so that I can choose optimally.

1N4001 -- (unsure of good brands for diodes) Please suggest: http://my.element14.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2105+203047&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=1N4001&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial
Heat Shrink -- (unsure of size, type, and everything actually) Please suggest: http://my.element14.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2105+204365&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=heat+shrink&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&No=0&getResults=true&appliedparametrics=true&locale=en_MY&divisionLocale=en_MY&catalogId=&skipManufacturer=false&skipParametricAttributeId=&prevNValues=2105+204365&filtersHidden=false&appliedHidden=false&autoApply=false&originalQueryURL=%2Fjsp%2Fsearch%2Fbrowse.jsp%3FN%3D2105%2B204365%26Ntk%3Dgensearch%26Ntt%3Dheat%2Bshrink%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchallpartial%26No%3D0%26getResults%3Dtrue%26appliedparametrics%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_MY%26divisionLocale%3Den_MY%26catalogId%3D%26skipManufacturer%3Dfalse%26skipParametricAttributeId%3D%26prevNValues%3D2105%2B204365

(it has to be purchased from this site as I live in malaysia)

Thanks
 
Discussion starter · #33 ·
Can you show me some photos of that cooler?
If it's a different make, it might have a different problem and this fix could not work with it.
If it's a tall, round block, it might have a loose shaft like the Antec Kuhlers, if so you might want to start with the magnet fix for that.
Take as small, strong magnet - like one of those rare-earth magnets - and place it on the top (there the logo is) and move it around, you might find a spot which makes it stop rattling.

As for the diodes, definitely Vishay is a good brand, but any diode that is marked 1N4001 must have the same characteristics so it really doesn't matter.

Hestchrink - 4mm or 5mm with 2:1 ratio, color is up to you. 3mm might not pass over the diode and if you get bigger than 5mm, it will not shrink enough to catch 18 AWG wire, unless you find one with a higher ratio, like 3:1 or 4:1.
 
Discussion starter · #35 ·
Corsair Hydro coolers H60, H80 and H100 are made by CoolIT Systems and it's a different design.

Older Corsair Hydro coolers, such as the H50 and H70, were I believe made by Asetek, and were the tall-block type units, like Antec Kuhler.

There the problem was with the impeller's shaft, which could be addressed bu either a magnet or a heatshrinking the shaft itself, the latter meaning you have to take the pump apart.
 
I got lucky with my third H100, no noise at all. Well, when the block is upside down on a GPU that is.
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Mind providing me an understanding as to why there's this rattling sound? I don't get it at all. It does appear that almost every brand suffers this problem.
The pump is resonating noise throughout the case. That's one explaination. The fix is to fit it tighter. Another is that air might be trapped in the system. Which would be possible with a closed loop.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
If we're talking about the tall-block coolers, then I think the problem was/is that the impeller's shaft is loose in its bearings and it literally rattles.

As for the flat Corsairs units, they have so many problems that I wouldn't know where to begin, but the rattling specifically is hard to explain and investigate, I believe it's either a mechanical problem with the sleeve bearing or a resonance in BLDC windings caused by the PWM signal and the frequency they chose for it. I could confirm that, but like I said, I don't have a unit to dissect, I designed the diode mod on a cooler that had to live and gathered the rest of the knowledge from my own research, supported by detailed photos of the unit's internals provided by a friend.

If you're interested in more details, you'll find them here:
http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=106031&page=2
starting from post #26.

If anyone was willing to donate an H60/H80/H100 for science, I would gladly apply the findings.
Not many volunteers, eh?
 
I'm not absorbing this well enough (I do not have good knowledge of physics), so in my case -- Intel RTS2011LC (made by asetek) this mod wouldn't apply?

I'd need to do something else? Magnet / heatshrinking shaft? I thought I was closing in on a solution here.. now I just feel further away lol.
 
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Originally Posted by benfica101 View Post

ok yeah i read on forum that by tapping on the hoses can help, i heard a couple of bubbles get passed though the pump. But still noise persists i'll give it a month see if it stops
thanks for your advice
I used to give this advice out back when I had my H50.

I also used to say to make sure you tighten the screws evenly. I once had my H50 making weird noises because one screw was not as tight as the other screws. Not only did it fix the noise issue, but helped my temps slightly.
 
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