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I have a SteelSeries Qck mouse pad and a Logitech G400 mouse (set at 3600 DPI). I am a software programmer and there are times that I need the mouse to be precise (like when I'm editing text and need to set my cursor somewhere).

When I make large movements like swiping my mouse across my mouse pad, everything is completely smooth and perfectly fine. BUT...When I need to make very small, tiny movements, I find that sometimes my mouse gets stuck. So then I try to move it even harder, and then I overshoot my target.

Is it normal that doing very small movements is not going to be smooth (like trying to click between 2 certain characters in a text editor)? Would getting new mouse skates help with the small, tiny movements? If not, what would help?
 
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Turning down the DPI will make small movements smoother, it will mean that you need to move the mouse a larger distance in order to move it which will give greater precision.
 
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I was under the impression that a higher DPI will make your mouse cursor much more precise. A higher DPI causes a higher sensitivity, but if you turn down your Windows sensitivity to compensate for it, then you will have a much more precise mouse. So for example, a 400 DPI mouse at 6/11 windows sensitivty is equivalent to 3600 DPI and a 2/11 Windows sensitivty (just making up an example, I don't know the exact conversion to windows sens). Both of those cases would have the same sensitivty but the 3600 DPI set up would be much more precise. Is this not correct?
 
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too much friction, you may need a different mouse pad as cloth pads can sometimes have too much. I find that the best surface for that type of movement is a quality hardwood desk with the right coating, or maybe one of those ceramic mousepads. i've tried a razer vespula and it was terrible with friction, and i'm now using a monoprice aluminum mousepad which is much better, but my mouse feet are still a big issue.
 
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Yeah ideally you want to keep your window sensitivity at 6/11 then adjust the dpi to match the speed you want.

Though I understand with optical mouse usually there are steps that you have to follow, in that case you might have no choice but to tweak the windows sensitivity.

As for your original question, it sounds like you should turn on acceleration. It's what it's designed for really. When you do finer smaller movement it move at slower speed, when you do big swipes it move at fast speed.

I understand for most FPS players they want no acceleration for consistency since they do a lot of big swipes. But if you're having trouble clicking text you can either tone down your overall speed (then you'd have to do even bigger swipes when you want big movement compare to before) or turn on acceleration.
 
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It maybe not be your mouse a more precise mouse pad with little to know surface resistance helps alot there are many different textured surfaces from microfiber to acrylic glass you just need to find which one works better for you i personally like a harder surface then a rubber or microfiber surface
 
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lol software programmer and cant figure out that your mouse is jittering as hell at 3600dpi. G400 sensor cant track good at this resolution. Also problem with small movements is because g400 has(at least mine had) zero glide rubber feet that stick to the surface. Change mouse feet and use 800 dpi or less on it.
 
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The issue you are describing is static friction. Most mousepads are designed around dynamic friction, which you describe as being a non issue.

Mouse pads such as Razer's Goliathus Control or Corepad's Cerro, despite their marketing, are probably what you want to look for. Also, make sure your mouse feet are in good condition.
 
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Actually I think he should enable enhance pointer precision and turn DPI down to 800, just like Hyde00 said a page ago. Logitech Gaming Software would be helpful to fine tune pointer speed.
 
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Yeah, the way I remember the Logitech driver from years ago, it has three different acceleration settings to choose from and one might feel good enough at least on desktop. There's also a setting to disable acceleration in games, I think, so it would only be active on the desktop. That could be the best choice, 800 DPI and acceleration on, speed slider set so that you can navigate to single pixels without problems.

The high DPI settings for all sensors are kind of fake which you'll see drawing circles in Paint or something, or there's some latency introduced to smooth out the sensor's reading to get higher DPI to work correctly.
 
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HOLY ####
OCN at it again.

Yea Longpanth, you should go and buy a new mousemat (definitely take one that's at least $ / € 25 or more, and has the words "precision", "pro gamer" or "nano" on the box), and then get new mousefeet as well. Again, they need to be expensive and have "gaming" or "superglide" on the box, don't settle for less man, you need that mouse to put surgical robots to shame ! Oh, and don't forget the snake oil, put some of that on your sensor with a Q-tip and you're golden. $ 10.000 + a kidney per flask though but it's worth it.

Or......... you could put it at 800 / 1600 dpi, turn pointer precision off and set windows to 6/11.
If you have the drivers installed you can remove DPI presets and change them so you could have only 2 presets to switch between. That way you can have a setting for precision movement (not with surgical precision like the $10.040+ investment from above, but good enough for text editing) and one for general usage.

PS: This, and many other threads is the reason why soon OCN will be at the Youtube- and Facebook-level in terms of knowledge and the quality thereof.
I invite you to prove to me how someone would need new mousefeet and a new mousemat for text editing (via PM, as to not derail this thread) ... Bloody ridiculous and a shame
 
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Thank you all for your replies. I have now set my windows sensitivty to 6/11 and my DPI to 800. I read that 6/11 is the only accurate setting that doesn't cause any "loss" while others try to do some weird conversion that does cause loss. And I also read that a DPI of 800 is the G400's sweet spot.

I have no more issues with small movements of the mouse.

I probably don't need all this stuff for just text editing and whatnot. I think the reason I was having trouble with small movements was just because I was using a Windows sensitivity of 3/11 and it was making small movements not register sometimes, so that was bothering me. Now that it's at 6/11, I could probably use any mouse and no surface pad and I'll be fine.
 
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