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Drahadis

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I really like this cooler and want to get it but I want to make sure it doesn't run into any of the ram slots with all the fans installed. I read that it shouldn't, but I just want to be absolutely SURE that it won't run into the Gigabyte Tridents I'm getting. I'm sure it won't, but I want to be 110% sure.

This is the Ram I'm getting:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231617

BTW Newegg sucks for completely removing Thermalright from their store.

Also, I read on Tom's Hardware reviews this is a pretty good cooler... but they didn't compare it to the other coolers I was looking at like the Noctua NH-U12P SE2. A saw a review with a confusing chart, and if I understood it better the Thermalright is a tiny bit better than the Noctua?? I'll be overclocking a 4770K.... not extremely high. Maybe 4500-4600, if I can. From what I've seen around, it looks like this cooler can handle that task well and quietly, but I was hoping to hear from people who own them?

(No I'm not going water, don't bother bringing it up.)
 
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Oh, thats great news
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What about RAM blockage? I saw a pic of it on a server board, and all the RAM on both sides of the cooler was maxed out (eight, four stick in each group of slots). I don't know if the space between the cpu and ram is the same on all mobos (is it a standard?)
 
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What is the distance from center of CPU to RAM?
How tall is your RAM?
What is your case?

Archon SB-E is 52mm from center of CPU to front of fan, 42.75mm from bottom of fins to motherboard, is 155mm wide and 170.2mm tall.


There are other coolers that will clear RAM.
NH-U14S claims to fit with all RAM. It's the same 52mm from center of CPU to front of fan as Archon SB-E.


SST-HE01 is 47.5mm from center of CPU to front of fan.


CRYORIG will be releasing their new R1 Ultimate in January. It is 41mm from center of CPU to front of cooler. In February the R1 Universal will be out with center of CPU to front of fan of less than 53mm.
http://www.cryorig.com/product.php



And there are more
 
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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

Hardware secrets reviews are kinda of unaccurate
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Archon SB-E will definitely out perform NH-U12P 5-7c.. The higher the Oc the more the Achon will show it's stuff.

Do you have any data for OP to sho the difference in performance between Archon SB-E and NH-U12P? . As he said, there's not much out there showing both in same review.

Archon 3-5c better depend on fan speed.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1271-page5.html

Archon SB-E has 8x 6mm pipes & 2x 140mm TY-141 fans to NH-U12P's 4x 6mm pipes and 2x 120mm fans.

Archon SB-E performs within a couple degrees of top twin towers like PH-TC14PE, NH-D14, SST-HE01, Silver Arrow SB-E, etc. NH-U12P is not in the same league.

I had the NH-U12P SE2 on my 920 before I got my PH-TC14PE. When I changed coolers my temps dropped 9-11c

NH-U12P w/2x TY-140 fans with custom shrouds.


Define R2 w/ 3x FN053 & 1x TY-140; EX58-UD3R; i7 920 @3.55GHz w/ Noctua NH-U12P w/ 2x TY-140 on custom shrouds & duct to top of case.
All tests were running 2 sessions of Handbrake with 96-100% load on all cores. Temps were maximum readings after 30 minute run.
ET6 = 10% rpm @ 32c
100% rpm @ 48c
Bottom fan = TY-140 - front closed 22c ambient
magnetic filter idle 720rpm @ 36-41c encoding 1280rpm @ 67-68c mobo 37,50,55

Same system with PH-TC14PE w/ same 2x TY-140 fans ducted out top of case


ET6 = 10% rpm @ 30c
100% rpm @ 50c front closed 21c ambient
idle 680rpm @ 37-35-39-34c 30-30-42c Encoding 1170rpm @ 59-58-60-56c mobo 33-43-44c

Fans full speed front closed 21c ambient
1300rpm @ 33-31-36-31c mobo 28-27-39c encoding 1300rpm @ 58-57-58-55c 34-41-48c
 
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Okay, its a good cooler. I'm happy with how well it can perform, it suits my needs perfectly performance wise. Can we only talk about how it interacts with the ram now?

What I'm worried about the most is the RAM. In the pictures I saw, it didn't run into the ram AT ALL and it was mounted sideways with the fan right next to the RAM... but I don't know what motherboards they're using or what sockets they were, or if the unit can even be rotated a quarter (90 degrees)??? It stopped short next to the RAM in some pictures I've seen and didn't touch the stick of ram. I'm using this on an 1150 ASUS Z87-Plus

Sources:
http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/thermalright-archon-sb-e-x2-cpu-cooler/
http://www.vortez.net/news_story/thermalrights_archon_set_for_sb_e_x2_revision.html

If it fits the way it did in this review, I can't get it... I'll have to get something else.
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http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermalright-Archon-SB-E-X2-CPU-Cooler-Review/1741/4

But that was a 2011 socket. I'm using an 1150, but I can't find a picture of it on a board I know for a fact is 1150. Anyone have any good pictures of how the Thermalright Archon SB-E X2 interacts with the RAM on a 1150 board?

Please help? I already ordered the CPU. Its on its way now, I need to find out definitively how it fits so I know if I can order it or not.
 
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Here is in a p67/z68 motherboard
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Thermalright-Archon-SB-E-X2-CPU-Cooler-Review/1741/4

Ram clearance

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The RAM slots on the ASUS mobo are really close to the CPU zone, so the TY-150 fan only clears the side of the heatspreader in the first RAM slot by 1 mm. The fan clips extend over it, and with the Corsair Vengeance Low Profile RAM (26.25mm height) there's a 5-6mm clearance between the top of the heatspreader and the fan clips.
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Source.http://www.overclock.net/t/1155513/corsair-650d-proper-positive-pressure-project
 
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You can simply measure from the center of your CPU to your RAM and if you have more than 52mm it will fit... assuming your case has at least 170.2mm CPU clearance and the top PCI slot you use is more than 78mm from center of CPU.

Just like I told you in post # 4.
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

What is the distance from center of CPU to RAM?
How tall is your RAM?
What is your case?

Archon SB-E is 52mm from center of CPU to front of fan, 42.75mm from bottom of fins to motherboard, is 155mm wide and 170.2mm tall.

There are other coolers that will clear RAM.
NH-U14S claims to fit with all RAM. It's the same 52mm from center of CPU to front of fan as Archon SB-E.


SST-HE01 is 47.5mm from center of CPU to front of fan.


CRYORIG will be releasing their new R1 Ultimate in January. It is 41mm from center of CPU to front of cooler. In February the R1 Universal will be out with center of CPU to front of fan of less than 53mm.
http://www.cryorig.com/product.php


And there are more
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Discussion starter · #11 ·
I can't measure it, its in the mail. I just ordered all the primary components last night.
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I ordered G.Skill Trident 2133 RAM. Those clips will run into it.
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Is there a way to mount this fan without using those stupid clips? How much would using just one fan impact its performance???
 
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Why not get low profile RAM and obviate the problem?
 
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.....I already ordered it. Its already been shipped.

I'm so tired of this. I go through this with coolers every time I build a system. Can't one of these companies just design a top end cooler that is designed NOT to interfere with ram, and isn't a color that doesn't go with a lot of builds? A neutral color like black, grey, gunmetal, or silver.

If someone can suggest something that is backed away from the ram and doesn't hover over it, I'd be really thankful.

Isn't there a top end air cooler that mounts on an 1150 motherboard so the fans are facing the ram, and the cooler is pushed to the left away from the ram so it doesn't interfere with the ram in any way? I just don't not understand why companies aren't making coolers like that.
 
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Can I use a fan on just one side and still get good good performance with this product?

I looked at low profile ram, but didn't like the stats of any I saw. I made a thread about me looking for ram a while ago.

At any rate I need help solving this problem. While I panic not knowing what to do, time is ticking away on the time frame I have to return a part if I need to. I ordered an ASUS Z87-Plus motherboard, G.Skill Trident ram, a 4770K, and a 128GB drive for the OS. I also have a Seasonic PSU on the way I also ordered, and a corsair vengeance C70 case sitting here next to me waiting to be used.

If I can't use this cooler with only one fan, and a good air cooler exists that will not block or interfere with any ram slots, I'd love to know about it!

I really don't want to have to send the RAM back.
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The problem I had was I couldn't find quality low profile ram that ran at a lower voltage on stock.

I have a solution... but I'm not sure if its a wise idea. The fins on the ram I got are removable. They slide off and it becomes low profile ram. The problem with that? Don't I need that if I want to overclock it? Would putting a fan right over them fix the problem if they get too hot? Later on I suppose I could cut two slots into the cooling fins on one of them so the fan mounts just sit inside the slots... but this ram has a lifetime warranty and that would obviously void it.

Can you guys see this pic?
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Originally Posted by Drahadis View Post

Can I use a fan on just one side and still get good good performance with this product?

I looked at low profile ram, but didn't like the stats of any I saw. I made a thread about me looking for ram a while ago.

At any rate I need help solving this problem. While I panic not knowing what to do, time is ticking away on the time frame I have to return a part if I need to. I ordered an ASUS Z87-Plus motherboard, G.Skill Trident ram, a 4770K, and a 128GB drive for the OS. I also have a Seasonic PSU on the way I also ordered, and a corsair vengeance C70 case sitting here next to me waiting to be used.

If I can't use this cooler with only one fan, and a good air cooler exists that will not block or interfere with any ram slots, I'd love to know about it!

I really don't want to have to send the RAM back.
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The problem I had was I couldn't find quality low profile ram that ran at a lower voltage on stock.

I have a solution... but I'm not sure if its a wise idea. The fins on the ram I got are removable. They slide off and it becomes low profile ram. The problem with that? Don't I need that if I want to overclock it? Would putting a fan right over them fix the problem if they get too hot? Later on I suppose I could cut two slots into the cooling fins on one of them so the fan mounts just sit inside the slots... but this ram has a lifetime warranty and that would obviously void it.

Can you guys see this pic?
20-231-617.jpg
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Noctua recommends exactly this approach with an earlier kind of RAM with removable coxcomb. That's a good solution.
 
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Shouldn't I be worried about it overheating when I overclock the ram, if removing the cooling fin is the only way to make this work with that cooler? If no and there are ways to easily keep it from overheating, I'll order the CPU cooler. I need to get moving on this.
 
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One nifty feature is the ability to remove the screwed-on top fins of the black-red heatspreader, which is useful to avoid clearance issues with large heatsink towers (5.4cm becomes 3.9cm height).
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The Corsair Vengeance Low Profile of the Picture in the post 9 are 26.25 in height
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Vengeance Low Profile heat spreaders have a reduced height of 1.03" (26.25mm)
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and a clearance of 5 to 6 mm 26.25+6mm=32.25mm

39-32.25=6.75mm of extra height from the Gskill ram
 
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I have the Archon SB-E x2 mounted on a Asus Sabertooth Z87 with this GSkill Trident ram.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231638

The HSF is mounted in the conventional way with the fans blowing to the back of the case. There is absolutely no clearance problems with 2 sticks of ram. With the Sabertooth Z87 there would be no clearance problems with 4 sticks of ram, but the forth stick would only be a few millimeters away from the front fan.
 
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Originally Posted by Drahadis View Post

Shouldn't I be worried about it overheating when I overclock the ram, if removing the cooling fin is the only way to make this work with that cooler? If no and there are ways to easily keep it from overheating, I'll order the CPU cooler. I need to get moving on this.
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