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Jaydev16

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I'm getting a new PC this month and the OS will be Windows 8(.1?) Pro Student.I'll be using the 64-bit version.So I was wondering how much GB of download that will be.I'm using a prepaid connection so I may have to recharge my balance if I exceed the download limits.Any ideas?
 
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What?
 
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The MS store India says a min. HDD capacity of 20GB.That sounds absurd,what is this Borderlands?Hopefully what you said-3.35 is the actual one.Seems much more probable.Thanks!
 
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The MS store India says a min. HDD capacity of 20GB.That sounds absurd,what is this Borderlands?Hopefully what you said-3.35 is the actual one.Seems much more probable.Thanks!
That's after installation. What you'll be downloading is an .ISO file. You'll need to "extract" or "burn" the .ISO either to a bootable USB flash drive or to a DVD-R.
 
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Well, ok, I guess I can give you a rough estimate. The 64-bit 90-Day Windows 8.1 Enterprise Evaluation is 3.53 GB. So, I will assume that 3.53 GB is either exactly what you'll be downloading for 8.1 Pro Student, or extremely close.
This is about right. My copy of Windows 8.1 Pro from Dreamspark comes out to 3.63GB
 
Isn't the student version the same as 8.1 Pro with only a different price structuring for school licensing? should be about the same size. The 20 gigs "recommended" is after the install. The initial windows program is not very large. You will however need some download capacity left for your updates and that can be heavy unless you are sure it is windows 8.1. If it is 8.0 and you want to update it to 8.1 it will download the whole program again with the update included.
 
The latest 64-bit ISOs available for MSDN subs are almost 4GB in size, making it impossible to install from a 4GB USB drive.

Visit this (<- click) page and scroll down to "Windows 8.1 with Update (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)":

It's a worst case scenario though, yours may be little less in size.
 
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The latest 64-bit ISOs available for MSDN subs are almost 4GB in size, making it impossible to install from a 4GB USB drive.

Visit this (<- click) page and scroll down to "Windows 8.1 with Update (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)":

It's a worst case scenario though, yours may be little less in size.
I extracted that 3.53 GB ISO for the 90-Day 64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise Evaluation to a 4 GB flash drive and it works just fine. It installed Windows 8.1 to my drive smoothly and quickly with no problems.
 
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That's after installation. What you'll be downloading is an .ISO file. You'll need to "extract" or "burn" the .ISO either to a bootable USB flash drive or to a DVD-R.
And you boot through it and then install,correct?
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This is about right. My copy of Windows 8.1 Pro from Dreamspark comes out to 3.63GB
Ok,relieved!
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Thought I'd have to recharge my 9GB dongle just for the OS.
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Originally Posted by Baghi View Post

The latest 64-bit ISOs available for MSDN subs are almost 4GB in size, making it impossible to install from a 4GB USB drive.

Visit this (<- click) page and scroll down to "Windows 8.1 with Update (multiple editions) (x64) - DVD (English)":

It's a worst case scenario though, yours may be little less in size.
I got a few 8GBs.So I'm ok,thankfully.Thanks for the Link!
 
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And you boot through it and then install,correct?
That's right!

Here's a simple tool that will help, but be warned: using it on a USB flash drive will format it.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/html/pbPage.Help_Win7_usbdvd_dwnTool

Download: http://images2.store.microsoft.com/prod/clustera/framework/w7udt/1.0/en-us/Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe

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I got a few 8GBs.So I'm ok,thankfully.Thanks for the Link!
Again, I used a 4 GB USB flash drive with no issues. The .ISO was 3.53 GB. After extraction, it took up 3.66 GB of space on my USB flash drive. This is how much space that same .ISO I have would consume on a DVD-R.
 
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Thanks!Really helped me with that.
What's the second link for?
Ok,I got a new 3G dongle(and SIM) for downloading the OS.My current land-phone connected speed is less than 500kb/ps.So when I assemble all the parts of my new rig,how will the dongle install its software if I don't yet have Windows?And is it noral for dongles to require a mSD card to work.Sorry for going off-topic but I'm kinda confused about this.
 
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Thanks!Really helped me with that.
What's the second link for?
Ok,I got a new 3G dongle(and SIM) for downloading the OS.My current land-phone connected speed is less than 500kb/ps.So when I assemble all the parts of my new rig,how will the dongle install its software if I don't yet have Windows?And is it noral for dongles to require a mSD card to work.Sorry for going off-topic but I'm kinda confused about this.
Can you put spaces after your punctuation please? It's getting kind of difficult to read.

Anyway, the 2nd link is a direct download to Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool. That's why it says "Download" in front of it, and that's why it's a link to an executable file (Windows7-USB-DVD-tool.exe).

You will need some kind of an operating system because you will need some kind of software to extract that .ISO onto a bootable USB flash drive or "burn" (extract) it to a DVD-R. It doesn't have to be Windows, but it will need access to the internet. If you don't have that, then the .ISO will be completely useless to you.
 
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I have a Linux Mint 15 on pendrive. Will that be enough?
So I can download the win7 boot iso, copy it to a pendrive and boot using that into my new PC. Then, I use it to go to the MS store and download Win8 pro student, correct?
 
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I have a Linux Mint 15 on pendrive. Will that be enough?
Hmm. I'm not sure to be honest. I'm completely ignorant when it comes to anything non-Windows. Ask around, see if you can get a Windows .ISO onto a bootable USB flash drive or a DVD-R in Linux Mint 15. Also, ask if you can make a bootable USB flash drive in Linux Mint 15 too because installing Windows from a USB flash drive is pretty fast!

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So I can download the win7 boot iso, copy it to a pendrive and boot using that into my new PC. Then, I use it to go to the MS store and download Win8 pro student, correct?
It's not a boot ISO (there really is no such thing as a "boot ISO"). ISO files are like .ZIP files, only far more compressed, I think. So, the ISO you'll be downloading is a compressed archive (like a .ZIP file) of everything that you'd get if you had the store-bought DVD.

You don't copy the ISO either; it must be extracted using either the operating system's built-in tool (if present), or special software that must be downloaded (and perhaps even installed).

Once the ISO is extracted onto either a bootable USB flash drive or a DVD-R, you boot from that and install Windows. It will be just as easy and as simple as that. You download the ISO, extract it, boot to that thing you extracted it to, and install. After the installation, you're done (except for installing your programs and customizing Windows to your liking).

So, no: you won't be downloading anything after you've downloaded the .ISO. You'll be installing Windows afterward.

Important: If you have multiple storage drives (i.e. more than one solid state drive or more than one mechanical drive, or a solid state drive and a mechanical drive or whatever), then you must disconnect all other drives and only leave the drive connected that you will be installing Windows to. This includes external USB hard drives. Fortunately, you do not have to disconnect optical drives. You see, if you don't do this, then Windows will put the boot sector on one of those other drives. If that happens, then you'll be unable to start Windows if you were to disconnect or replace the drive that has the boot sector on it.
 
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I extracted that 3.53 GB ISO for the 90-Day 64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise Evaluation to a 4 GB flash drive and it works just fine. It installed Windows 8.1 to my drive smoothly and quickly with no problems.
The "latest" win8.1 w/ update 1 x64 is a bit larger in size than the std. win8/8.1 due to spring update pre-installed (which itself is about ~800 MB if you download standalone).

Straight from my ISO collection. I'd NEVER state anything like this without any proof to back it up.

And for this very reason, I had to burn a DVD-R because it couldn't fit on my 4gig USB stick which has 3.70GB or so total space available.

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I have a Linux Mint 15 on pendrive. Will that be enough?
Absolutely. Linux Mint comes with an ISO burner installed named Brasero which is plenty good and user-friendly.
 
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The "latest" win8.1 w/ update 1 x64 is a bit larger in size than the std. win8/8.1 due to spring update pre-installed (which itself is about ~800 MB if you download standalone).

Straight from my ISO collection. I'd NEVER state anything like this without any proof to back it up.

And for this very reason, I had to burn a DVD-R because it couldn't fit on my 4gig USB stick which has 3.70GB or so total space available.
Oh yeah, that's right. That which everyone is nicknaming "Update 1" is 887.6 MB. Adding that to 3.53 GB makes 4.39 GB, almost 4.4.
 
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