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Vantavia

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Optical mice can track on hard and cloth mouse pads and even have 5000 dpi native sensors now (because bigger means it's better >.>). What do laser mice do or achieve outside of having a high chance of jittering on cloth pads?
 
they are aimed in low to medicore gamers that cant justify to spend too much just on a mice (i myself use some crap 10 pounds mice with up to 2,5k dpi) and untill i can afford mionix 7000 im bound to use it
 
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There are cheap optical mice as well to be honest, infact most prebuilds even come with optical mice afaik. I have an Avior 7000 arriving in a day or 2 but idk if I will be able to get on with the added weight :x
 
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The shape was what people hyped and there are countless people that want an optical reason for a reason. Besides 5,700 dpi in 2007/2008 was clearly a marketing ploy. We don't even need that kind of dpi for 4k now :s
 
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Either way laser mice are known to jitter on cloth pads. It's ironic that Logitech are one of the biggest supporters of weight systems yet they produce mice with such a heavy base weight that it's laughable, that said with 12,000 dpi on the g502 you would still need a high resistance pulley system to play an fps.
 
I've been using mine in the silliest of surfaces. My leg, my sheets, my desk which is particle board, books, it has never failed. It only once tracked a bit weird on a varnished pinewood table, because it has very weird reflections (almost hologram-like).

The point of customizable weights, to your information, is not to solely make the mouse heavier, but to balance the weight of the mouse towards a position you are most comfortable with. In my case I biased mine to weight considerably more on the back because I rotate the mouse pivoting on my wrist.

DPI is up to the user solely. I am completely unable to play with these so-called 'gamer' settings like 400 or 800 DPI. I get a sore arm in the time it takes me to doubleclick the game executable file; while others are unable to have any sort of accuracy with 2400 or 3200 DPI, the settings I use for 1x1080p screen and 2x1080p screens respectively.
 
Wanna know why I love my laser mouse? Because it makes the best pattern ever on the desk! -R.A.T. 5
 
For my purposes, the one reason you discredited is my reason for using laser over optical; speed. The only reason I haven't upgraded from my G9x is because there aren't any mouse of comparable shape or size with a faster sensor. I've been looking for a higher DPI sensor for over a year now since the G9x just isn't fast enough anymore.
 
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Therefore the only compelling argument for one of the very few accepted laser mice is the shape. Which reinstates that laser is just... ugh. Unfortunately mice these days appear to be designed around the obesity epidemic though the g9 does have a bespoke shape as far as we know.
 
Hey, you forgot how it was when the laser mice first came out. They were marketed as working on any surface, no need to use a mouse pad anymore, you can just use any desk. They were also marketed as working better on things like glass tables. That's of course all a lie, but perhaps good enough for office work?
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EDIT: The first laser mouse that came out for normal PCs was the Logitech MX1000. Here's a quote out of the marketing material I could find:
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Now optical is obsolete. And your computing experience will never be the same.
Featuring the Logitech MX Laser Engine, the MX1000 delivers a new pinnacle of performance no optical mouse can match. With an incredible 20x more sensitivity to surface detail -- or tracking power -- than optical, laser can track reliably even on tricky polished or wood-grain surfaces. And the MX1000 offers even more advanced features that will make you more productive and more comfortable.

20X Tracking Power
By revealing significantly greater surface detail than optical mice, the MX1000 laser mouse tracks precise on previously impossible-to-navigate surfaces, such as highly polished or wood-grain surfaces.

In tests on these demanding surfaces, the invisible laser light reveals 20 times greater detail when compared to its LED-based counterparts.

The result is the MX1000 Laser Cordless Mouse, a next-generation mouse that harnesses precision laser light to track on surfaces where optical mice falter.
 
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Therefore the only compelling argument for one of the very few accepted laser mice is the shape. Which reinstates that laser is just... ugh. Unfortunately mice these days appear to be designed around the obesity epidemic though the g9 does have a bespoke shape as far as we know.
And speed, don't forget speed. Unless there's some nice 6000+ DPI opticals around in which case please feel free to list a couple, I'm just not aware of any.
 
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Wanna know why I love my laser mouse? Because it makes the best pattern ever on the desk! -R.A.T. 5
Thats a RAT 3, just saying.

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they are aimed in low to medicore gamers that cant justify to spend too much just on a mice
BS

As for the OP, you should improve your understanding of the topic by digging a bit around in the forum, especially look for the posts of jsx3.
 
I am not defending anything, but the conclusion that laser illumination equals jitter is just wrong, it is certain models and hardware combinations that are having/causing issues, not to mention that laser is not equal laser, there are many ways leading to rome and just generalizing is complete BS.
 
My G500 is good enough till something rolls out that is worthwhile for me to buy (or my mouse dies when it is out of warranty) I liked the G502, but the build quality issues turned me away from it and I returned it after I bought it.

So I'd like an optical in the near future, but I dont have the need for one right now.
 
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