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Hi everyone,

My 560ti was working fine one day the next day it dies, I'm not sure why it got damaged.

The next day I saw whenever I opened you tube , it would show an unresponsive plug in message. The screen would then black out saying something like "Nvidia driver has crashed & recovered successfully" This happened several times and finally when I restarted it was broken right from the boot screen.

I had been seeing you tube videos crash with the plug in message when I alt tabbed out of firefox for a long time, but never had any problem with games. I had seen the driver crash message before but only sometimes (may be once every 3 - 4 weeks).

So the next thing I tried, I put my old 8800GT (at 1920 * 1080) to check & it works fine except that after 15 minutes I see it is super hot. Now I'm not sure if its that Card or something else.

It might as well be the 560ti was damaged .
I will be buying another Card soon, but I don't want to risk it in case if the motherboard is a problem & could damage the new card. Any way I can check this ?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Originally Posted by _Nikhil View Post

Hi everyone,

My 560ti was working fine one day the next day it dies, I'm not sure why it got damaged.

The next day I saw whenever I opened you tube , it would show an unresponsive plug in message. The screen would then black out saying something like "Nvidia driver has crashed & recovered successfully" This happened several times and finally when I restarted it was broken right from the boot screen.

I had been seeing you tube videos crash with the plug in message when I alt tabbed out of firefox for a long time, but never had any problem with games. I had seen the driver crash message before but only sometimes (may be once every 3 - 4 weeks).

So the next thing I tried, I put my old 8800GT (at 1920 * 1080) to check & it works fine except that after 15 minutes I see it is super hot. Now I'm not sure if its that Card or something else.

It might as well be the 560ti was damaged .
I will be buying another Card soon, but I don't want to risk it in case if the motherboard is a problem & could damage the new card. Any way I can check this ?

Thanks in advance.
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PCIe slot probably isn't damaged.

Sporadic crashes are generally not PCIe slot related.
Hot cards are not PCIe related either.

If the slot was damage, it just wouldn't work. Besides, it's relatively hard to damage the slot unless you do something very not normal... like right a screwdriver through it at an angle.
 
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It doesn't sound like the slot is damaged. That's very rare. Also I don't think a lot could damage the card unless you insert the card badly.

Did you try a fresh install of drivers?
 
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PCIe slot probably isn't damaged.
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Thanks, That is good to know.

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It doesn't sound like the slot is damaged. That's very rare. Also I don't think a lot could damage the card unless you insert the card badly.

Did you try a fresh install of drivers?
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I had installed the latest drivers a couple of weeks ago.
I again updated drivers even after the 560ti was broken, but that didn't fix it.
But then missing drivers wouldn't cause white square blocks at the boot screen . would it ?

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Ddi you get any BSOD?
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Yes, I did get a BSOD a couple of times.
 
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Run whocrashed and run it,press the green bottom on the upper left cornet and copy the first couple of bsod that way we will know what generates it
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I don't get a BSOD anymore, Now it just runs in the least resolution (600 * 480 or something like that), all other resolution options are not there anymore and everything looks like the color is messed up with ugly graphics.
 
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I don't get a BSOD anymore, Now it just runs in the least resolution (600 * 480 or something like that), all other resolution options are not there anymore and everything looks like the color is messed up with ugly graphics.
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Are you in Safe Mode?

The GPU is being used in a lower setting so the OS may not be properly detecting your GPU.
 
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I don't get a BSOD anymore, Now it just runs in the least resolution (600 * 480 or something like that), all other resolution options are not there anymore and everything looks like the color is messed up with ugly graphics.
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you card can be dying or your card isnt being detected can you check the device manager?

Anyway run whocrashed the dump files are saved in the os unless you have formatted
 
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Are you in Safe Mode?

The GPU is being used in a lower setting so the OS may not be properly detecting your GPU.
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No, Not in safe mode. Its a lot much worse than how safe mode appears. 8800 GT works & displays fine.

I don't think its a problem with OS since the display is messed up right from that first boot screen,

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you card can be dying or your card isnt being detected can you check the device manager?

Anyway run whocrashed the dump files are saved in the os unless you have formatted
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Here it is

On Sat 9/13/2014 5:50:32 PM GMT your computer crashed
crash dump file: C:\Windows\Minidump\091314-14133-01.dmp
This was probably caused by the following module: dxgkrnl.sys (dxgkrnl+0x5D000)
Bugcheck code: 0x116 (0xFFFFFA80083FB010, 0xFFFFF8800F194E20, 0x0, 0x2)
Error: VIDEO_TDR_ERROR

Description: DirectX Graphics Kernel
Bug check description: This indicates that an attempt to reset the display driver and recover from a timeout failed.
The crash took place in a standard Microsoft module. Your system configuration may be incorrect. Possibly this problem is caused by another driver on your system that cannot be identified at this time.
Google query: Microsoft Corporation VIDEO_TDR_ERROR
 
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Could be your drivers
http://mikemstech.blogspot.com/2011/12/troubleshooting-0x116-videotdrerror.html

or your card can be the problem

http://www.faultwire.com/solutions-fatal_error/Attempt-to-reset-the-display-driver-and-recover-from-0x00000116-*1275.html
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I updated to the latest Nvidia Drivers but it didn't work, Updated the registry & created keys for TdrLevel & TdrDelay but didn't work.

I'll buy a new Graphics Card soon this week. My biggest concern was if there is any risk to the new graphics card if the mobo is a problem, but since you guys don't think that's likely, I'll see how it goes.

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Have you tried using the bios defaults?
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No, I haven't tried that yet.
 
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I updated to the latest Nvidia Drivers but it didn't work, Updated the registry & created keys for TdrLevel & TdrDelay but didn't work.

I'll buy a new Graphics Card soon this week. My biggest concern was if there is any risk to the new graphics card if the mobo is a problem, but since you guys don't think that's likely, I'll see how it goes.

Thanks
No, I haven't tried that yet.
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I really dont know how to test if a pcie is damaged

maybe @Blameless or @tsm106 know
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Your motherboard seems to have more than one PCIE...give another one a try.
 
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I have an MSI MPower Max Z87 with a damage PCI-E slot. The slot pulls away from the mobo. It was damaged while in transit (I didn't remove the GPUs since I didn't ship them, just took them in the moving truck and the weight of the DCU2 must have damaged it). For my motherboard, when I put a GPU into any PCI-E slot, I can't get any signal to my monitor and the GPU fans run at 100% speed.

I think you would have something similar to this if your PCI-E slot was damaged.
 
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@tsm106 know
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Hmm, I had a RIVE go bad because of the the top pcie slot. The contacts in the pcie slot are like leaf springs that push out on the the gpu when you insert it. I suppose after enough insertions the leafs sprung out of their guides. I did not notice it at first or for a long ass time because of all the weird behaviors my rig displayed. But after a time of pulling my head I inspected the board because there was just nothing left after ruling everything else out.

When I found the bad slot, I realized I was lucky that nothing shorted out. lol and was I lucky because it could have been real bad with quad gpu and the gpu in slot one was my super gold card. Knock on wood... disaster averted.
 
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Hmm, I had a RIVE go bad because of the the top pcie slot. The contacts in the pcie slot are like leaf springs that push out on the the gpu when you insert it. I suppose after enough insertions the leafs sprung out of their guides. I did not notice it at first or for a long ass time because of all the weird behaviors my rig displayed. But after a time of pulling my head I inspected the board because there was just nothing left after ruling everything else out.

When I found the bad slot, I realized I was lucky that nothing shorted out. lol and was I lucky because it could have been real bad with quad gpu and the gpu in slot one was my super gold card. Knock on wood... disaster averted.
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Thanks,

I bought a new graphics card now & put it into another pcie slot.
 
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Hi

I bought a GTX 770 to replace the broken 560ti but there are problems still. Drivers are updated to 344.11

Whenever I play BF3 Caspian Border map or Watch Dogs, PC shuts down within 15 mins. Then it shows CPU overheated & works fine a little later.
But the surprising thing now was when I checked the WhoCrashed report, its the same as before - Post# 11.

I'm not sure whats going on right now. The Graphics card is less than a week old, its definitely not a problem. Why would CPU overheat and the crash message be about Graphics card - Error: VIDEO_TDR_ERROR
 
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