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Hi Guys,

Really interested in getting the gtx 970, but I have an old system. I'm planning to overclock the i5 750 to about 4.0 ghz (going to buy a new cpu cooler also).
Would there be a bottleneck ? And if there is, how much?

I suspect there would be bottleneck, but if it's just 3-5% I can live with.

Note : I'm planning on playing on 1080p (hopefully with all detail cranked up) , no 4k at the moment.

Cheers.
 
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What games do you play?
In games that are CPU bound like ARMA III or something that suport a new architecture it will be a bottleneck
I like fps (bioshock,battlefield series,far cry) and RPGs / adventure (dragon age, witcher, assasins creed) , some FIFA also. It's the fps game I'm worried about where you need smooth fps. Witcher also, I did play the previous series on my gtx 285 and the fps took a massive dip compared to other games.
 
It will slightly. 5-15fps or so in the games I tried on my old system (i5 750 @ 4.2Ghz) then this new one (i7 4790k stock) while testing for other issues I had. It was pretty crude testing I did but the difference wasn't big. SLI will be better for the most part on a new system, though a few games did better on the old system surprisingly...
 
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I like fps (bioshock,battlefield series,far cry) and RPGs / adventure (dragon age, witcher, assasins creed) , some FIFA also. It's the fps game I'm worried about where you need smooth fps. Witcher also, I did play the previous series on my gtx 285 and the fps took a massive dip compared to other games.
well maybe in battlefield 4 64players
 
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Originally Posted by IcarusLSC View Post

It will slightly. 5-15fps or so in the games I tried on my old system (i5 750 @ 4.2Ghz) then this new one (i7 4790k stock) while testing for other issues I had. It was pretty crude testing I did but the difference wasn't big. SLI will be better for the most part on a new system, though a few games did better on the old system surprisingly...
Thanks for this, think I can live with 5-15 fps difference considering it is an old rig. I'm curious what games did better on the old system?
Your setup is sweet btw!

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well maybe in battlefield 4 64players
I won't be doing much online play currently (too addictive!) maybe just team fortress 2 which I'm sure I won't have problems with. I think I better stay out of CPU intensive games (64 player online game, arma 3). Thanks again.
 
GW2 did (very) slightly better on my old system with a single 970. Saints Row III did better too. I should try SOM now...
 
I just overclocked my I5 750 today to 3.6 Ghz (Paired with a 7870XT, 4 gigs of ram) and I was running Battlefield 4 w/ 64 players just fine. Especially with a 970, I'd imagine that Battlefield 4 is an easy task. I don't know about Arma 3 though. I was running the game at 1600x900 with supersampling (The resolution scaling settting in game was on 145%, slightly more pixels to render then 1080p - I'd say that it was a worthy test
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) on though, since I have a crappy old monitor. In other words, I think that you should just overclock your CPU (Also because it was so easy to do with an aftermarket cooler on my system, and a Asus P7H55-M motherboard. Those aren't ment for overclocking.) and go ahead and buy a new GPU. I thjnk that it will grant you a boost in performance. Perhaps, when a new CPU series arrives, you'll be able to put them in SLI in a new system, would you buy 2x 970s. One now, and one later on.

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I completely forgot actual results with my system, so here are some benchmarks of games that I tested today:

Hitman Absolution:
Everything on the highest settings, 8x AA. I figured that the 8x AA would compensate for my resolution, since I plan on upgrading later this month:
Max FPS: 48
Average FPS: 38
min. FPS: 30

Batman Arkham City:
Max FPS: 128
Average FPS: 94
Min FPS: 22

I don't know where the sudden FPS drop came from, I think it just was because of some terrible frame times (It only appeared once though, for less then 1 sec.)

As for Battlefield 4; I was running it with supersampling on 145%, with "High" settings all arround, although ambient occlusion and all forms of AA were disabled. It ran on arround 70 to 80 FPS. It would, on occasion, drop for less then a second to something like 20ish. But once again, I think that that is more due to the connection and frametimes then anything else.

Hope this helped
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I just overclocked my I5 750 today to 3.6 Ghz (Paired with a 7870XT, 4 gigs of ram) and I was running Battlefield 4 w/ 64 players just fine. Especially with a 970, I'd imagine that Battlefield 4 is an easy task. I don't know about Arma 3 though. I was running the game at 1600x900 with supersampling (The resolution scaling settting in game was on 145%, slightly more pixels to render then 1080p - I'd say that it was a worthy test
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) on though, since I have a crappy old monitor. In other words, I think that you should just overclock your CPU (Also because it was so easy to do with an aftermarket cooler on my system, and a Asus P7H55-M motherboard. Those aren't ment for overclocking.) and go ahead and buy a new GPU. I thjnk that it will grant you a boost in performance. Perhaps, when a new CPU series arrives, you'll be able to put them in SLI in a new system, would you buy 2x 970s. One now, and one later on.
how do you run BF4 multiplayer with 4GB if it needs 5GB?
 
Ah, that's probaly were my stuttering is coming from as well
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Should have upgraded long ago anyways, might as well do that now
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I was pleasantly surprised though at the performance increase I was still able to get with overclocking my CPU. Planting some more RAM into my computer, and some other stuff (Looking forward to the announcement of the 960!
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GW2 did (very) slightly better on my old system with a single 970. Saints Row III did better too. I should try SOM now...
Very interesting, well here's hoping my most used games will run better
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Originally Posted by Nehabje View Post

I just overclocked my I5 750 today to 3.6 Ghz (Paired with a 7870XT, 4 gigs of ram) and I was running Battlefield 4 w/ 64 players just fine. Especially with a 970, I'd imagine that Battlefield 4 is an easy task. I don't know about Arma 3 though. I was running the game at 1600x900 with supersampling (The resolution scaling settting in game was on 145%, slightly more pixels to render then 1080p - I'd say that it was a worthy test
biggrin.gif
) on though, since I have a crappy old monitor. In other words, I think that you should just overclock your CPU (Also because it was so easy to do with an aftermarket cooler on my system, and a Asus P7H55-M motherboard. Those aren't ment for overclocking.) and go ahead and buy a new GPU. I thjnk that it will grant you a boost in performance. Perhaps, when a new CPU series arrives, you'll be able to put them in SLI in a new system, would you buy 2x 970s. One now, and one later on.

Hope this helped
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Wow thanks for this, great post. Makes me super excited about upgrading the GPU, first I got to buy that hyper 212x and OC this badboy. This proc is not as old as I thought performance wise.
 
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Very interesting, well here's hoping my most used games will run better
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Wow thanks for this, great post. Makes me super excited about upgrading the GPU, first I got to buy that hyper 212x and OC this badboy. This proc is not as old as I thought performance wise.
Ha,I'll probaly end up doing something like that as well. I'm pleasantly surprised after 4 years
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Be aware of the RAM issue though, make sure to upgrade to 2x 4gb or 2x 8gb, since the I5 only supports dual or single channel.
 
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Ha,I'll probaly end up doing something like that as well. I'm pleasantly surprised after 4 years
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Be aware of the RAM issue though, make sure to upgrade to 2x 4gb or 2x 8gb, since the I5 only supports dual or single channel.
The CM 212x should arrive today or tomorrow, getting pretty excited. Will be focusing on the OC first, and then the GPU and RAM. Thanks for the RAM info. I think I'll wait for the 960 announcement and review also, if the price performance is good, I don't mind slight decrease in fps compared to 970.
 
I don't know yet. First I'm going to get some more RAM, then I'll also upgrade to a new case (I'm currently figuring out wether or not I want the Fractal design node 804 or Corsair 240). By the way, does anyone know if the I5 750 and p7h55m support one RAM stick? That way I can use only one of 8gb, then later upgrade to 16gb. I'm also getting some blue LED's and some other stuff for the case, since I'm considering this memory: http://content.hwigroup.net/images/products/xl/213365/kingston_hyperx_fury_blue_8gb_ddr31600_cl10_kit.jpg
With the motherboard and the LED's, I think that it will look sweet
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... By the way, does anyone know if the I5 750 and p7h55m support one RAM stick? That way I can use only one of 8gb, then later upgrade to 16gb.
I'd be also interested to know, but I'm using Gigabyte P55-UD3P.
I don't think I need 16 GB right now, but 4 GB is too close for many new games, so 8 is the sweet spot price-performance wise.

Good luck on your build! It sounds pretty sweet.
 
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Kind of relevant : A guy on reddit just upgraded his GPU from 560Ti to 970 on his i7 870 and blow away by the performance : Here

I commented the thread and someone with an i5 750 @3,9 ghz replied and give his benchmark document upgrading from 470 to 970:Here

Needless to say I'm salivating for the 970 now.
 
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Kind of relevant : A guy on reddit just upgraded his GPU from 560Ti to 970 on his i7 870 and blow away by the performance : Here

I commented the thread and someone with an i5 750 @3,9 ghz replied and give his benchmark document upgrading from 470 to 970:Here

Needless to say I'm salivating for the 970 now.
Haha, nice. I might still go for an amd, since crossfire motherboards are much easier to find.
 
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Haha, nice. I might still go for an amd, since crossfire motherboards are much easier to find.
What AMD are you interested in? I've heard about the heat and power consumption is quite high, honestly worried about my aerocool PSU (not so recognizable brand).
 
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