[Reddit] Witcher 3 HairWorks now works on AMD cards smoothly CC Tweak

edo101 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by victorelessar

well im using the same settings as you and getting around 40fps most of the time, believe me or not!

I am at work right now, so ill have to check the hariworks tesselation later though. but with shadows mid and foliage distance high, thats about what i get. i can even keep AA On and ambient occlusion high.

But i dont get the picks of 50~60 in any part of the game though.

I was getting those frames with 8X tessellation but I went up to 16x and it dropped. However I took shadows to low and set foliage density to medium and I get 40 fps on average across the board. And are you on a 280 or 290?
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Originally Posted by velocityx

running i7 4790k with a 290 and 2560x1440p. Running on High settings, I found that hairworks would bring me from 50fps to 25, however doing the trick did nothing for my fps, maybe 2-3fps higher, doesnt matter if I select all HW or just Geralt.

Make sure you set Overrid App settings and not AMD optimized on CC. And makes sure that when you click on general settings that you did not use the same settings. Use default CC settings on general settings but make the tessellation changes only specific to Witcher.exe

victorelessar · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by edo101

I was getting those frames with 8X tessellation but I went up to 16x and it dropped. However I took shadows to low and set foliage density to medium and I get 40 fps on average across the board. And are you on a 280 or 290?

280. thats my point!

if i turn hairworks ON, i lose about 15 fps, so i need to check if this ccc setting does any damage on my frames. but only later.

edo101 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by victorelessar

280. thats my point!

if i turn hairworks ON, i lose about 15 fps, so i need to check if this ccc setting does any damage on my frames. but only later.

Well i'd assume a 290 an overclocked one at that which is what I have would run it better.

But Um please make sure you did override and not use AMD optimised for .exe app settings in CC and make sure you kept general settings as stock

Eitherway, no matter I tweak the fps would be 27fps with the defualt HW. This trick has done wonders for my performance with HW. Like a 10fps jump

velocityx · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by edo101

Make sure you set Overrid App settings and not AMD optimized on CC. And makes sure that when you click on general settings that you did not use the same settings. Use default CC settings on general settings but make the tessellation changes only specific to Witcher.exe

Thx, indeed I had override on general settings and not in witcher 3.exe

with that on x16, I get 33-34 fps instead of 26 in my test spot.

RagingCain · May 20, 2015

I suppose Maxwell has a tesselation upgrade over Kepler? Has anyone tested it?

Forceman · May 20, 2015

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I suppose Maxwell has a tesselation upgrade over Kepler? Has anyone tested it?

Not really, and both Kepler and MAxwell kill GCN, so it must be something besides raw performance at play.

edo101 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by velocityx

Thx, indeed I had override on general settings and not in witcher 3.exe

with that on x16, I get 33-34 fps instead of 26 in my test spot.

http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/comparisons/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-shadow-quality-interactive-comparison-1-ultra-vs-low.html

Try lowering shadows. Just set it to low. I know we like to brag on having ultra but when it comes to W3, Low shadows looks the same as ultra. Its a joke really. I tell you this because on my 290 at 1100mhz, I average 40-45 fps. makes a difference.

Its almost as if CDPR is trolling us. Its like the put ultra settings just to kill performance and nothing else

tsm106 · May 20, 2015

However they are doing the HW, it's almost ******ed. How much screen space is the hair taking yet it requires a stupid investment of tessellation that is hammering everything. Obviously, the cost is more than users are willing to bear.

Mrzev · May 20, 2015

So the Fix is to lower tessellation, not just for the hair, but for everything? That's cool, kinda odd that you cant control that in the Witcher 3 options. AMD struggles with tessellation, there should be an option for that. Im sure NVidia struggles with some other thing, and that should also be an option.

It's a bit odd that the Devs didnt do anything... they didnt try to find a little twiek like this... they just said turn it off.

Hairworks has been around for almost a year.... what can AMD do to improve their performance with this? Is this a driver optimization thing? Do they need to ask the Devs to include TressFX? =( So much technical knowledge for me to read up on... too little time.

edo101 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by Mrzev

So the Fix is to lower tessellation, not just for the hair, but for everything? That's cool, kinda odd that you cant control that in the Witcher 3 options. AMD struggles with tessellation, there should be an option for that. Im sure NVidia struggles with some other thing, and that should also be an option.

It's a bit odd that the Devs didnt do anything... they didnt try to find a little twiek like this... they just said turn it off.

Hairworks has been around for almost a year.... what can AMD do to improve their performance with this? Is this a driver optimization thing? Do they need to ask the Devs to include TressFX? =( So much technical knowledge for me to read up on... too little time.

You know, there is no visible difference between the default tessellation via the stock Nvidia hairworks and routing the hairworks through AMD CC. I'm beginning to see a lot of settings that I have tweaked to go from low to ultra have no noticeable difference on the image quality.

I'll take it any day. I'm done following an Ultra preset just for the sake of it when it provides absolutely no difference in quality besides killing performance

I really wish TressFX was in the game. Also hope there is a way for AMD to do physics like Nvidia does it via gameworks

majin662 · May 20, 2015

So how much 290x's going for

Ganf · May 20, 2015

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So how much 290x's going for

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=146&sort=a8&page=1

$300 up front, 280 AR.

Or you could get the Final Fantasy Licensed edition for $360, set your PC by your window and light up your neighbors yard with all of the LED's. Your choice.

majin662 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by Ganf

http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/video-card/#c=146&sort=a8&page=1

$300 up front, 280 AR.

Or you could get the Final Fantasy Licensed edition for $360, set your PC by your window and light up your neighbors yard with all of the LED's. Your choice.

Love me some pc partpicker. Thanks for the link man.

I'm definitely debating a switch since you can pick the 290x's up for so cheap (relative term obviously) I was looking to upgrade soon to maybe sli 970's or 980's (saving my scraps for the winter) but I could honestly drop a few hundred on a switch if everything going around ends up being true

Playapplepie · May 20, 2015

Tested at 8x tessellation and everything runs really well. Also tweaked the HW AA levels as linked in the Reddit thread.

edo101 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by Playapplepie

Tested at 8x tessellation and everything runs really well. Also tweaked the HW AA levels as linked in the Reddit thread.

Link? What did changing HW AA do for you?

DerkaDerka · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by edo101

Link? What did changing HW AA do for you?

Go to Witcher 3 / bin / config / base and find the rendering.ini file. You can find hairworksAAlevel towards the bottom, you can change this to 2,4,6, or 8x.

I have my custom profile exactly like the one on reddit, edited the AA level in the ini file and hairworks still runs like complete crap. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I'm inside at Vizima and turning hairworks on drops me from 80fps to 35.

edo101 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by DerkaDerka

Go to Witcher 3 / bin / config / base and find the rendering.ini file. You can find hairworksAAlevel towards the bottom, you can change this to 2,4,6, or 8x.

I have my custom profile exactly like the one on reddit, edited the AA level in the ini file and hairworks still runs like complete crap. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong but I'm inside at Vizima and turning hairworks on drops me from 80fps to 35.

Cities will drop your frames and 35-40 in cities are what I get too. still better than 24-27 I always I get with default Nvidia

DerkaDerka · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by edo101

Cities will drop your frames and 35-40 in cities are what I get too. still better than 24-27 I always I get with default Nvidia

I am getting no difference running regular hairworks versus using the CC profile, which from what everyone is saying there should be at least a slight difference. I am using the exe from the bin/x64 folder and running the GoG version of the game. Only thing I can think of that might be affecting things is I have GoG Galaxy installed on my C drive and the actual game is installed on another SSD, but I don't see why that would matter so I'm out of ideas.

edo101 · May 20, 2015

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Originally Posted by DerkaDerka

I am getting no difference running regular hairworks versus using the CC profile, which from what everyone is saying there should be at least a slight difference. I am using the exe from the bin/x64 folder and running the GoG version of the game. Only thing I can think of that might be affecting things is I have GoG Galaxy installed on my C drive and the actual game is installed on another SSD, but I don't see why that would matter so I'm out of ideas.

Check under general settings in CC. Are you using default CC settings? Delete your Witcher 3 profile again and recreate it and make sure it is only applicable to Witcher 3 and not general settings as well.

Even when I was running on the Ultra spec, I still noticed the difference between AMDHairworks and Nvidia's. It has to work I don't see how it couldnt. I am using GOG version and my game is installed on my D drive which is mechanical. My C drive is a small 128Gb ssd

tsm106 · May 20, 2015

My first guess would be user error. Re-check your steps.

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