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Just had to drop back and say thank you for the review Ino, just ordered one

No major publication does any legitimate mouse reviews, so the selection is limited. Had a RAT7 for years (which I could make it fit me like a glove), then to a G502 on your review (which I love)....but the shape and weight are too much for me now, but going back to the RAT7 sensor just didn't feel comfortable enough to warrant

Nice to see this implementation isn't too bad, and with my RAT7 parts, I should be able to salvage this into something that fits nearly as well as the original RAT7 while still having at decent sensor performance

Again, thanks for the review. Mouse selection is far too limited because of the lack of real sensor reviews
 
If you swipe to the right the mouse goes up and to the right, to the left and it goes down and to the left. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this, try it again and report back - I'm curious. I don't think it's human error due to grip, I legitimately think they fit the sensor at a wonky angle or something. Had two of them like a year ago.
 
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If you swipe to the right the mouse goes up and to the right, to the left and it goes down and to the left. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this, try it again and report back - I'm curious. I don't think it's human error due to grip, I legitimately think they fit the sensor at a wonky angle or something. Had two of them like a year ago.
My beta sample of the original CM storm sentinel with the PLN2032 had the same problem.
 
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Just had to drop back and say thank you for the review Ino, just ordered one

No major publication does any legitimate mouse reviews, so the selection is limited. Had a RAT7 for years (which I could make it fit me like a glove), then to a G502 on your review (which I love)....but the shape and weight are too much for me now, but going back to the RAT7 sensor just didn't feel comfortable enough to warrant

Nice to see this implementation isn't too bad, and with my RAT7 parts, I should be able to salvage this into something that fits nearly as well as the original RAT7 while still having at decent sensor performance

Again, thanks for the review. Mouse selection is far too limited because of the lack of real sensor reviews
You can actually put RAT TE's PCB in RAT 7 shell, it'll fit just fine. Right panel, wrist rest and buttons are the same too. The only difference is in Left side with thumb buttons.

Just don't forget to disable Sensor Dampening in software.
 
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Originally Posted by justnvc View Post

If you swipe to the right the mouse goes up and to the right, to the left and it goes down and to the left. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this, try it again and report back - I'm curious. I don't think it's human error due to grip, I legitimately think they fit the sensor at a wonky angle or something. Had two of them like a year ago.
I wonder if there is any way to make cursor move directly to the right. May be it's related with grip or sensor rotation.
 
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You can actually put RAT TE's PCB in RAT 7 shell, it'll fit just fine. Right panel, wrist rest and buttons are the same too. The only difference is in Left side with thumb buttons.

Just don't forget to disable Sensor Dampening in software.
yeah I noticed that from the pictures - same hex key on all sides (props to them, Madcatz could have been dicks and done something more permanent). I've always preferred the grip/fit of the RAT series personally, so all I needed was a review of the sensor. hopefully I'm satisfied, should be arriving today!

can't wait to try a lighter mouse again too - rat7 to g502, I forgot that mice could be much lighter
 
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yeah I noticed that from the pictures - same hex key on all sides (props to them, Madcatz could have been dicks and done something more permanent). I've always preferred the grip/fit of the RAT series personally, so all I needed was a review of the sensor. hopefully I'm satisfied, should be arriving today!

can't wait to try a lighter mouse again too - rat7 to g502, I forgot that mice could be much lighter
If you remove a couple of parts it may get even lighter. But if light weight isn't your first priority, I guess It's better to put TE's PCB in 7's shell. TE is very fragile and may get bent and broken with ease, while 7 has aluminum base which I doubt anyone can bend with fingers.

If you had R. A. T. 5 you could just swap plastic TE's base with metal 5's base like I did. I personally use fingertip grip and don't need most of this mouse's parts. After I removed them it's still very robust and weights next to nothing.
 
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Could someone describe the weight distribution in the TE? I find a lot of mice too rear-heavy. I'm a fingertip gripper so I can't support weight in the rear of the mouse very easily.

My FK is nicely balanced, but I'd like to have something wider in shape. I've tried my girlfriend's R.A.T. 3 and it does feel a tad rear-heavy; the center of balance is right at the sensor in the middle when it should be somewhere to the front (it's pretty hard to measure accurately with the cord attached though). Is the TE similar? Or can I remove the adjustable palm plate without a hammer?
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I really like the idea of doppler shift sensors, but I also really like cloth pads. I'm currently using a Zowie CM which has a fairly tight and smooth weave, so it shouldn't be that bad, right? Right?
 
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Could someone describe the weight distribution in the TE? I find a lot of mice too rear-heavy. I'm a fingertip gripper so I can't support weight in the rear of the mouse very easily.

My FK is nicely balanced, but I'd like to have something wider in shape. I've tried my girlfriend's R.A.T. 3 and it does feel a tad rear-heavy; the center of balance is right at the sensor in the middle when it should be somewhere to the front (it's pretty hard to measure accurately with the cord attached though). Is the TE similar? Or can I remove the adjustable palm plate without a hammer?
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I really like the idea of doppler shift sensors, but I also really like cloth pads. I'm currently using a Zowie CM which has a fairly tight and smooth weave, so it shouldn't be that bad, right? Right?
Cloth might feel nice to hand, but performance wise it's terrible for any type of sensor. You'd be better to search for different tracking surface. Recently I've found out that raw wood cutting board may be worthy alternative to cloth mouse pads for PTE. It's hand friendly and has similar kind of friction. At the same time it has good characteristics for PTE tracking.
 
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Recently I've found out that raw wood cutting board may be worthy alternative to cloth mouse pads for PTE. It's hand friendly and has similar kind of friction. At the same time it has good characteristics for PTE tracking.
Nice find!

Shame about cloth. Is it because the surface fabric slightly flexes to the direction of the moving mouse? If that's the case, how about textureless soft pads, e.g. the silicone Razer Megasoma? It's got a slick surface I think.

I played a few more matches with the R.A.T. 3 and the balance is actually okay if I just grip more to the rear. Feels pretty natural, and fortunately the buttons are still easy to actuate closer to their base. I'm just gonna assume that the TE does fine in this regard.
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Btw, I kinda disagree with something you implied earlier, Above8. You said that with a doppler sensor, gamers would be able to switch to a lower cm/360 ratio concerning sensor accuracy. Okay, valid logic, but there are other reasons to prefer a high number: at least for me, it's a lot easier to move my hand 9-11 cm than 9-11 mm physically. The margin of error is smaller.
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Is it because the surface fabric slightly flexes to the direction of the moving mouse? If that's the case, how about textureless soft pads, e.g. the silicone Razer Megasoma?
First of all you don't want tracking surface to be soft.
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Btw, I kinda disagree with something you implied earlier, Above8. You said that with a doppler sensor, gamers would be able to switch to a lower cm/360 ratio concerning sensor accuracy. Okay, valid logic, but there are other reasons to prefer a high number: at least for me, it's a lot easier to move my hand 9-11 cm than 9-11 mm physically. The margin of error is smaller.
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It only means that you haven't tried PTE. Human hand fine motor skills allows much more than any sensor can see.
 
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