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http://www.myce.com/news/windows-10-updates-can-disable-pirated-games-and-unauthorized-hardware-76883/
No, they're saying if you compromise one of their services (I dunno, hack OneNote, Skype etc) they'll stop you from accessing that servive via an update.Originally Posted by r0llinlacs
So, try to disable/uninstall that "service" and MS just turn it back on/reinstall it? MS has gone rogue.
It isn't just about pirated copies, its more about that micosoft is telling you what you can and can not do with your rig.Originally Posted by Dmitriy
Why do people like mixing everything together, privacy is one thing but this is different. Theoretically if MS could prevent pirated games from running without any bugs and hurting paying users it would be an awesome thing. New era of pc gaming, no more "pc users are pirates" excuses from game developers. Sadly it's not what this is about. Nothing to discuss here.
Except the services agreement in the article basically says if you use our OS to compromise our platforms, we reserve the right to remove your access from those services.Originally Posted by Alvarado
It isn't just about pirated copies, its more about that micosoft is telling you what you can and can not do with your rig.
Do you really think that developers have only one excuse to screw PC gaming?Originally Posted by Dmitriy
Why do people like mixing everything together, privacy is one thing but this is different. Theoretically if MS could prevent pirated games from running without any bugs and hurting paying users it would be an awesome thing. New era of pc gaming, no more "pc users are pirates" excuses from game developers. Sadly it's not what this is about. Nothing to discuss here.
This article is making a mountain out of flat ground. It isn't all that different from what they're doing already. They already ban modded Xbox 360 consoles from Xbox Live. They can ban users from Xbox Live for using hacks. Steam servers can ban you from servers for using hacks in their games.Originally Posted by Menta
its not about pirated games or hardware, bla bla... some just don't get he big picture and all future ramifications this has.....rules! nice one....some skipped history lessons i see all intentions are good till they not
How far can that go, What if someone edits an ini file to remove a 24fps cinematic framerate lock and a 2.35:1 aspect ratio lock because they dont want to burn in their tv? is that pirating?Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn
Oh, please. They've always had rules about what you can and can't do. You're violating the game dev's/publisher's license agreement too if you crack it, whether you purchased or pirated a copy. It's just that now, with the Internet, it's possible to scan common cracks as if they're virus definitions.
So it's no different from a console ban.Originally Posted by Tsumi
What you said would be true... except for one big glaring misrepresentation. This ToS does not cover Windows, at all. The writer of this article is making a stretch to make it cover Windows when it doesn't. What the ToS says is that it can block you from Xbox Live, Skype, Outlook, Office 365, etc. if you abuse their services (i.e. pirating Xbox One games, using hacked 365 keys, etc). It does not cover standalone Office, nor does it cover Windows.
I don't think you understand what piracy means. Hacking a game? Fine, as long as you don't circumvent copy protection. Downloading a game from the official source (e.g. Steam or Origin)? Perfectly acceptable of course.Originally Posted by KenjiS
How far can that go, What if someone edits an ini file to remove a 24fps cinematic framerate lock and a 2.35:1 aspect ratio lock because they dont want to burn in their tv? is that pirating?
What if i remove motion blur because it makes me seriously ill? Is that "pirating"
I paid for the game, I paid for the right to play the game and enjoy it. So long as I am not taking that code and reusing it for commercial purposes, that should be protected under fair use. The problem with the "rules" in this case is that publishers will force developers to do hackjob work and then if anyone tries to fix anything they'll scream PIRATEY PIRATE PIRATE, put a scarlet P on their chest and then sue them for 4 million dollars for daring to be motion sick because of motion blur..
I see the potential issues but at the same time feel that in reality it wont amount to muchOriginally Posted by Menta
look, i buy games on steam, a few on origin, uplay and battlenet....its not this this article its the sum of what is windows 10....a spying, gathering information, selling information maybe and even having games with adds that you can pay to remove...and what else......if you think this not dangerous in so many levels good for you
well on that note you right, we asked for this with all that social crap that has being onOriginally Posted by KenjiS
I see the potential issues but at the same time feel that in reality it wont amount to much
Then again, the reason it may not amount to much is we KNOW what Win 10 is potentially capable of and point out these possible outcomes, When Microsoft knows most users realize how bad they could be abused and revolt then Microsoft is much less likely to do any of the "drastic" things that people suggest..
Its like the Palladium thing years back.
Spying and gathering information is pretty much status quo for everything online these days unless you go to pretty extensive measures most folks dont want to go through. All of it is a double edged sword and in the real world theres little black and white, merely shades of grey
Yeah, you get banned from Microsoft services on your Windows PC. Luckily for you, you're using Windows, and there's a whole host of service providers to choose from. Banned from Outlook? Go to Gmail. Banned from Skype? Gmail does video chats and calling too. Banned from Xbox Live? Good thing you've got Steam, Origin, GoG, etc, right? Banned from Office 365? Can keep using Office 2013, or go to Libreoffice. Banned from Bing? Surely there's no alternatives to Bing?Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn
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That's it, I'm done. There has not been one article about this operating system that has been remotely objective. It is all alarmist crap.
Somehow I don't believe you. Did you just exceed your download cap? Or do they actually know what files you're downloading? Game mods aren't illegal are they, and an ISP should only know if you tell them or there is some court order. But for downloading mods, that just doesn't make sense.Originally Posted by tkenietz
I've had multiple disputes with my isp for downloading mods. I can only imagine my own pc questioning me.
I think the "jailbreaking" will be fine. There's even an option for it under "Update and Security > for developers > Sideload Apps" (Then again, im probably thinking of something completely different) the feature has been there since Win 8.Originally Posted by Artikbot
What the most likely mean is that the OS will actively try to stop services that crack software obtained through the appstore, illegally downloaded software found in the appstore, or some form of 'jailbreaking' for the store.
Honestly this is what I thought of when I first read the OP. And even if they magically decide to attack some of the games I have, it doesn't mean whatever comes after won't have a work-around. This is a cat & mouse game we're playing, and it doesn't help when sometimes a cracked version of a game runs better/is more enjoyable than a legitimate copy (GTA V, Far Cry 4, NFS: Rivals, just to name a few). Hell in order to have FC4 boot on a dual-core system (granted, anyone gaming on a PC likely has a quad-core processor at least) would have to apply a patch that's easier to do with a cracked version of the game. Don't get me started on NFS: Rivals. I shouldn't have to pirate a game to get a legit, offline single-player experience. If Microsoft seriously wants to try & block pirated games from running on Windows 10, LOL GOOD LUCK!Originally Posted by Artikbot
What the most likely mean is that the OS will actively try to stop services that crack software obtained through the appstore, illegally downloaded software found in the appstore, or some form of 'jailbreaking' for the store.
My theory is that perhaps he downloaded the mods utilizing a torrent-style connection systemOriginally Posted by aweir
Somehow I don't believe you. Did you just exceed your download cap? Or do they actually know what files you're downloading? Game mods aren't illegal are they, and an ISP should only know if you tell them or there is some court order. But for downloading mods, that just doesn't make sense.
