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Originally Posted by vibraslap View Post

You do not need to disable Q-fan control. What you need to disable is the monitoring of the cpu fan speed. In the same tab in the bios, above the q-fan control section, there should be a list of all your fans and their current speeds. Since you are using a water cooler there will be no reported fan speed for you cpu fan. Click on the cpu fan speed and select "do not monitor". This will fix the "no cpu fan detected" error on startup.

I use Q-Fan control exclusively for fan control on my system as I find it more reliable than external software solutions. I would use PWM over DC for your water pump(it uses a PWM(4-pin) connector) with 100% speed for all temperatures.
hi , thx for the reply , it isn't me disabling the CPU Q-fan , maybe I need to test some more ? I was trying to get Q-Fan Working/Optimised but ended up switching the Connector back to the WaterPump header and set Ignore for CPU FanSpeed as every reboot I got the Fan error , no matter the setting if I connected something to the Fan Header. it either acted like nothing was connected or told me to set a lower Fanspeed limit even after running "optimise all"

My Water Cooler is the AIO H80iGT and while the fans themselves (SP120) are 4pin PWM they connect to the H80i through a dual Fan header which only has a 3 pin connector to the MB , so I read it should be set to DC Mode , I assume cos the H80iGT's own Firmware controls the fans via USB with CorsairLink. ( and it doesn't have the 4th wire anyway)

Is there a Thread on Q-Fan or a Tutorial maybe , I'm new to X99 and it's been a few years since I had an Asus board too.
 
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If nothing is connected to the fan header, then you can disable the CPU fan header monitoring. If something is connected, then you can set the CPU low limit warning to a lower RPM value so that it doesn't trip the warning message.
 
Here's what I'm doing on my board. YMMV. Using Asus x99 Deluxe-II and Corsair h100i v2. Shouldn't make any difference, but just for reference.

Fan Connections

I have my h100i's water pump connected to my cpu fan header.
I have chosen to not use CorsairLink to control fan speed, as I do not want to many programs polling my temperature/fan speed sensors and I am already using AIDA64 for that. Also I found that using CorsairLink to control fan speed and using the recommended(by corsair) fan connections(fans plugged into pump) did not properly adjust fan speed under load.(my fans were at 50% speed at max load)

Because of this, I elected to plug my h100i fans directly into fan headers on the motherboard and use Q-Fan control to control the speed.

Q-Fan Control Set Up

I recommend you do NOT use the "optimize all" option for this and instead manually set up each fan. You only need to do this once, so while it may seem tedious, it is very much "set and forget".

So each fan has the same basic settings and options that should look something like this



The first option lets you select the fan control mode, i.e. PWM or DC, pretty self explanatory if you know what those mean.

The "Fan Source" option allows you to select a temperature that the fan speed will be controlled by. So if this is your CPU cooler, any fans on it should be using "CPU" as the temperature source.

The step up and step down options let you dictate the amount of time it takes the fan to speed up or down when it reaches a temperature threshold. 0 means it will immediately change speeds when it reaches the threshold temperature for a certain speed. Change this setting if you don't like to hear your computer suddenly making a lot of fan noise during load, and it will gradually adjust.

The fan low limit sets the fan minimum speed below which an alarm will go off. (I think? Honestly never needed this)

The fan profile is the actual "fan curve" where you set the fan speed vs temperature(of the "fan source" sensor). You can use one of the presets, but I recommend taking the time to find the manual settings that work right for your system.

Manual fan profile has 6 additional settings where you set up your fan curve. They are also pretty self explanatory.

The low and high settings are the most important here, with the middle setting, from my understanding, being used to smooth the fan curve.

So, how do you find your optimal settings?

I'm sure greater minds than me have guides on this sort of thing, but I'll give you a quick and dirty guide that's basically how I did mine.

You ideally want your system to make as little noise as possible while remaining the coolest under light load, and have maximum cooling with no regard to noise at max load(at least that's how I feel). The first thing to do is find the highest "quiet" setting on your fans. In Q-Fan control, adjust the minimum fan setting upwards in 5% increments starting at 20% until you hear and audible change in loudness, then drop down one 'notch'. You do not need to save the BIOS settings for these changes to take effect.

Once you have your minimum fan setting, you should find your idle load temperature. Go browse the internet for a few minutes, watch some Netflix, whatever your "basic" computer usage consists of. Take a note of your CPU temperature while doing this. Add 2-3 degrees C, and you have your "minimum" temperature to input into Q Fan. if you exceed this temp, your fans will now increase speed.

Your Maximum fan setting should obviously be 100%. For the "maximum" temperature, set whatever temperature you feel signify's that your computer is now under heavy load. Use a stress test like RealBench if you need to find what your system temps are like under load. For reference, I would maybe use 55C as a baseline for max temperature.

Middle temp and fan speed can just be whatever is directly between high and low.

To solve your CPU fan speed error, the section above Q-Fan should look something like this(in whatever skin your bios has)



Under CPU fan speed you should see 'N/A' or '----' or the like. Click this. You will see a menu with some option. One of those is "do not monitor" or "ignore this sensor". That is the option your are looking for to make the error go away on boot.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck in your endeavors!
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hi , thx for the reply , it isn't me disabling the CPU Q-fan , maybe I need to test some more ? I was trying to get Q-Fan Working/Optimised but ended up switching the Connector back to the WaterPump header and set Ignore for CPU FanSpeed as every reboot I got the Fan error , no matter the setting if I connected something to the Fan Header. it either acted like nothing was connected or told me to set a lower Fanspeed limit even after running "optimise all"

My Water Cooler is the AIO H80iGT and while the fans themselves (SP120) are 4pin PWM they connect to the H80i through a dual Fan header which only has a 3 pin connector to the MB , so I read it should be set to DC Mode , I assume cos the H80iGT's own Firmware controls the fans via USB with CorsairLink. ( and it doesn't have the 4th wire anyway)

Is there a Thread on Q-Fan or a Tutorial maybe , I'm new to X99 and it's been a few years since I had an Asus board too.
is it a 3 or 4 pin fan?
 
Here's my Q-Fan setup but obviously very tailored to my needs. I run my pump full speed from the PSU but use the CPU Opt header for the tach. A couple of fans, on the H_Amp header, I turn on only when it gets hot.

Q-Fan.pdf 279k .pdf file
 

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For the H80i GT connection, set the Q-Fan control for its header to 'Full Speed'. Besides providing a full 12v load for the pump and its fan controller, that should "grey out" the AI Suite master fan control options that can unintentionally cut power to the pump. You could also set the H80 header to PWM to provide the 12v, but it should not matter either way. In the past, this would prevent the CPU fan error, although I suppose that may not extend to the new boards. In theory, this should work on the water pump header as well, but I don't have one of the X99 II or Z170 boards with it.
 
Hi people, first of all pardon my english since it isn't my first language.

I'm an owner of an Asus X99 Deluxe combine with an Intel Xeon and 32 GB of RAM, The thing is that since I added 16 Gb of RAM to complete the 32, the PC sometimes do not detect all of them and in a couple of very rarely ocasions the PC froze. I've tested all my memories, switched them in diffrent slots and so far no problem at all.
The only thing I couldn't test is the PSU, yet is a Seasoinc 1200, which rarely fails and I didn't either looked how my pins are.
If I switch the RAM from their positions and in the next boot up they are all detected. I've played, designed, ect with no issues whatsoever nor temp issues, nothing.

Is this a common isue with x99? it has become one since some BIOS update? (I tend to update everytime), thanxs in advance!
 
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Hi people, first of all pardon my english since it isn't my first language.

I'm an owner of an Asus X99 Deluxe combine with an Intel Xeon and 32 GB of RAM, The thing is that since I added 16 Gb of RAM to complete the 32, the PC sometimes do not detect all of them and in a couple of very rarely ocasions the PC froze. I've tested all my memories, switched them in diffrent slots and so far no problem at all.
The only thing I couldn't test is the PSU, yet is a Seasoinc 1200, which rarely fails and I didn't either looked how my pins are.
If I switch the RAM from their positions and in the next boot up they are all detected. I've played, designed, ect with no issues whatsoever nor temp issues, nothing.

Is this a common isue with x99? it has become one since some BIOS update? (I tend to update everytime), thanxs in advance!
It sounds like you added a second kit to one you already had installed:
1) Mixing ram kits is risky. They can work at SPD, but may not work together at XMP or higher. Even if they are the same brand and model.
2) you need to provide more information... speed, timings, voltage (VDIMM and VSA etc). Easiest way is to post bios screenshots.
3) I doubt it is any other component...
 
Jpmboy,

I know you got a lot of experience with different RAM kits. Which would be the best 8x8GB kit for doing 3200MHZ with decent timings for a 5930k?

And would a 5930k actually better better when OC'd under water then say a 6800k? I think you get a higher CPU/cache OC, just the RAM would be slower, right?

I'm asking because I recommended to a friend he'd be better of with the 5930k.
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Jpmboy,

I know you got a lot of experience with different RAM kits. Which would be the best 8x8GB kit for doing 3200MHZ with decent timings for a 5930k?

And would a 5930k actually better better when OC'd under water then say a 6800k? I think you get a higher CPU/cache OC, just the RAM would be slower, right?

I'm asking because I recommended to a friend he'd be better of with the 5930k.
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eh... the cpu call is a silicon lottery one, so I'll let that ride. No doubt that it would be a toss up IMO. 8x8 kit?

any of the 3200c14 8x8GB kits from GSKILL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232289
cheaper.. get the c16 lower bin 8x8GB kit.
 
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Originally Posted by Raja@ASUS View Post

If nothing is connected to the fan header, then you can disable the CPU fan header monitoring. If something is connected, then you can set the CPU low limit warning to a lower RPM value so that it doesn't trip the warning message.
Setting the limit to the lowest limit ( 300?) didnt help so I move the H80iGT's connector to the WaterPump header and ignored the CPU monitoring as this is what I did on my earlier X99 Boards.

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hi , thx for the reply , it isn't me disabling the CPU Q-fan , maybe I need to test some more ? I was trying to get Q-Fan Working/Optimised but ended up switching the Connector back to the WaterPump header and set Ignore for CPU FanSpeed as every reboot I got the Fan error , no matter the setting if I connected something to the Fan Header. it either acted like nothing was connected or told me to set a lower Fanspeed limit even after running "optimise all"

My Water Cooler is the AIO H80iGT and while the fans themselves (SP120) are 4pin PWM they connect to the H80i through a dual Fan header which only has a 3 pin connector to the MB , so I read it should be set to DC Mode , I assume cos the H80iGT's own Firmware controls the fans via USB with CorsairLink. ( and it doesn't have the 4th wire anyway)

Is there a Thread on Q-Fan or a Tutorial maybe , I'm new to X99 and it's been a few years since I had an Asus board too.
is it a 3 or 4 pin fan?
The H80iGT has a 3Pin to the MB even though the fans themselves are 4Pin PWM Fans ...two x SP120's these are plugged into a double 4pin Connector but the lead to the MB out of it has only 3 Wires , and I read earlier on the Forums to set it up under DC Mode because of this. BTW the H80 does not have separate Pump and Fan Connections , it is one 3 wire only .

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Here's my Q-Fan setup but obviously very tailored to my needs. I run my pump full speed from the PSU but use the CPU Opt header for the tach. A couple of fans, on the H_Amp header, I turn on only when it gets hot.

Q-Fan.pdf 279k .pdf file
Thanks Djgar I appreciate it .

And VibraSlap , BIG thanks , appreciate you taking the time to type that up and getting a pic for me , I will have another go at it tonight. I don't usually use Optimise all but after about the 15 failed boots due to the fan error I got desperate
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Hi KW , would you mind , if you have time, next time you are in your X99A II Bios, saving the Bios settings to the .CMO Text file and attaching it to a post here please, my CPU on RMA has finally shipped , so I should get to play with the X99A II soon.
thanks.
Here is screens what I have on my 5960x Adaptive stable. 24/7 4.7GHZ CPU, 4.4GHZ cache, 128GB at 2666 12-12-12-32 1T. RealBench, AIDA cache test and HCI and GSAT stable.
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I never posted the timings but what I did was put everything on Auto in timings except for the 12-12-12-32 1T which I knew I could run, then I loaded the 2133MHZ RAM setting on XMP, manually set the sub timings in BIOS to what they are at that speed except a few tweaks I knew are optimal like tREFI etc, then rebooted at 2666MHZ on Manual with those sub timings and passed GSAT etc.
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With Adaptive/Offset it's a good idea to sets your voltages .002 higher or so then on Fully Manual to get things stable as there may be a bit more Vdroop with Adaptive.

AdaptiveBiosScreenshots.zip 2085k .zip file













 

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For the H80i GT connection, set the Q-Fan control for its header to 'Full Speed'. Besides providing a full 12v load for the pump and its fan controller, that should "grey out" the AI Suite master fan control options that can unintentionally cut power to the pump. You could also set the H80 header to PWM to provide the 12v, but it should not matter either way. In the past, this would prevent the CPU fan error, although I suppose that may not extend to the new boards. In theory, this should work on the water pump header as well, but I don't have one of the X99 II or Z170 boards with it.
That is correct that is what I had to do on the 1st GB MB I had back in Feb. , it got RMA'd and as stock was low I switched to ASUS instead and did the same thing on the 1st MB, a X99A but I am now on the X99A II after several more RMA's.
 
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Originally Posted by Kbird View Post

Hi KW , would you mind , if you have time, next time you are in your X99A II Bios, saving the Bios settings to the .CMO Text file and attaching it to a post here please, my CPU on RMA has finally shipped , so I should get to play with the X99A II soon.
thanks.
Here is screens what I have on my 5960x Adaptive stable. 24/7 4.7GHZ CPU, 4.4GHZ cache, 128GB at 2666 12-12-12-32 1T. RealBench, AIDA cache test and HCI and GSAT stable.
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I never posted the timings but what I did was put everything on Auto in timings except for the 12-12-12-32 1T which I knew I could run, then I loaded the 2133MHZ RAM setting on XMP, manually set the sub timings in BIOS to what they are at that speed except a few tweaks I knew are optimal like tREFI etc, then rebooted at 2666MHZ on Manual with those sub timings and passed GSAT etc.
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With Adaptive/Offset it's a good idea to sets your voltages .002 higher or so then on Fully Manual to get things stable as there may be a bit more Vdroop with Adaptive.

AdaptiveBiosScreenshots.zip 2085k .zip file
Wow , thanks , I'm being Spoiled today
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I have it up and running and have been combing the .cmo to see what you usually do and am trying things out , it will do 4.5 with your settings however I dont feel comfortable pushing more Voltage ATM to make it 100% stable , especially as I only have the H80iGT AIO..... it seems much happy at 4375 and at lower voltages , so thanks again.
 
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Wow , thanks , I'm being Spoiled today
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I have it up and running and have been combing the .cmo to see what you usually do and am trying things out , it will do 4.5 with your settings however I dont feel comfortable pushing more Voltage ATM to make it 100% stable , especially as I only have the H80iGT AIO..... it seems much happy at 4375 and at lower voltages , so thanks again.
Forgot you like the .txt.
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4.7Adaptive_setting.txt 33k .txt file
 

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Wow , thanks , I'm being Spoiled today
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I have it up and running and have been combing the .cmo to see what you usually do and am trying things out , it will do 4.5 with your settings however I dont feel comfortable pushing more Voltage ATM to make it 100% stable , especially as I only have the H80iGT AIO..... it seems much happy at 4375 and at lower voltages , so thanks again.
Forgot you like the .txt.
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4.7Adaptive_setting.txt 33k .txt file
And THANKS AGAIN !
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gonna have to make a KedarWolf folder under Hardware if this keeps up
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Anyone with a v edition 10. So both cases I've tried the "built in shield" for io does not fill the holes in the cases. Pretty big gap..
 
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Originally Posted by Jpmboy View Post

It sounds like you added a second kit to one you already had installed:
1) Mixing ram kits is risky. They can work at SPD, but may not work together at XMP or higher. Even if they are the same brand and model.
2) you need to provide more information... speed, timings, voltage (VDIMM and VSA etc). Easiest way is to post bios screenshots.
3) I doubt it is any other component...
1. Yeap, I've added a second kit. Same model from GSkill yet, I detected in AIDA64 that is from another manufacturer. I'm using them in SPD, yet I've touched the voltage (1.3) since someone told me that soemtimes increasing teh voltage helped in x99 mobos.
2. Im' uploding some iMGs with this post
3. I hope so!!

Thanxs man!!




 
whoa - it's even worse than I thought. Different ICs. Frankly, the best thing to do is sell them and by a single kit at the density you need.
 
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