PMW3325 ? - PMW3320 / AM010 rebrand?

TK421 · Sep 19, 2016

New mouse from Bloody/A4

http://www.bloody.cn/Products.php?pid=31&id=92

Granted, the speed is still 2.5m/s to malfunction (100 inch/s max), but I really like the software + they use IR switch. Spec seems VERY similar (if not identical) to the PMW3320/AM010. So I think it's safe to assume that this is a rebranded sensor.

Gonna ask my chinese friend if he can import an activated Ultra Core 3/4 unit into the US

Pragmatist · Sep 19, 2016

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Originally Posted by TK421

New mouse from Bloody/A4

http://www.bloody.cn/Products.php?pid=31&id=92

Granted, the speed is still 2.5m/s to malfunction (100 inch/s max), but I really like the software + they use IR switch. Spec seems VERY similar (if not identical) to the PMW3320/AM010. So I think it's safe to assume that this is a rebranded sensor.

Gonna ask my chinese friend if he can import an activated Ultra Core 3/4 unit into the US

Not interested in their cheap cheating software, but I have tested it to see what it's about and you can activate it yourself on their site. It's not for free, though.

TK421 · Sep 19, 2016

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Not interested in their cheap cheating software, but I have tested it to see what it's about and you can activate it yourself on their site. It's not for free, though.

You can buy the software, or buy a preactivated mouse (usually cheaper, sold as a package).

Any info on sensor?

Pragmatist · Sep 19, 2016

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Originally Posted by TK421

You can buy the software, or buy a preactivated mouse (usually cheaper, sold as a package).

Any info on sensor?

I have two of their mice that I bought last year and I didn't like them at all. I can take a photo if you like? In any case, I wouldn't recommend them unless you're in a budget, but even then there are better options IMO. The sensor tracked okish for a while, but the sensor glass got scratched because it sits extremely low.

Again, I have no idea if they've improved their new lineup.

TK421 · Sep 19, 2016

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I have two of their mice that I bought last year and I didn't like them at all. I can take a photo if you like? In any case, I wouldn't recommend them unless you're in a budget, but even then there are better options IMO. The sensor tracked okish for a while, but the sensor glass got scratched because it sits extremely low.

Again, I have no idea if they've improved their new lineup.

The sensor glass you can remove, it's only a filter. Mine never scratched on a soft mousepad.

Their newest mouse (this one) is the only one that carries "PMW3325" sensor. I have the V7 previously and it worked great for $20, comes preactivated too

If you do actually have this particular one, please do send nudes pics.

Pragmatist · Sep 19, 2016

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Originally Posted by TK421

The sensor glass you can remove, it's only a filter. Mine never scratched on a soft mousepad.

Their newest mouse (this one) is the only one that carries "PMW3325" sensor. I have the V7 previously and it worked great for $20, comes preactivated too

If you do actually have this particular one, please do send nudes pics.

These are the ones I have and none of them has the new sensor you mentioned.

TK421 · Sep 19, 2016

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These are the ones I have and none of them has the new sensor you mentioned.

Ah, that's a shame :|

But based on your speculation, what might the sensor be?

trism · Sep 19, 2016

It's not a direct rebrand of the PMW3320, like AM010 <-> PMW3320. More likely a successor/alternative with a somewhat new design. Uses the same case and 3-wire SPI but has a higher maximum specified CPI capability, different product ID vs. AM010/PMW3320 and different feature registers. Also the operation voltage is lower.

TK421 · Sep 19, 2016

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Originally Posted by trism

It's not a direct rebrand of the PMW3320, like AM010 <-> PMW3320. More likely a successor/alternative with a somewhat new design. Uses the same case and 3-wire SPI but has a higher maximum specified CPI capability, different product ID vs. AM010/PMW3320 and different feature registers. Also the operation voltage is lower.

But the max speed is still 100ips?

It's safe to assume that aside from minor changes, the sensor will have the same native DPI of 250CPI steps? I will most likely use 500CPI.

Or maybe tweak like the G402 / G302 80cpi step?

Pragmatist · Sep 19, 2016

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Ah, that's a shame :|

But based on your speculation, what might the sensor be?

The black and silver one has the Avago A9800, and the plain black one has the Avago A3050. I bought them to test the software, and they are pretty cheap so I got two for the hell of it. Let's hope someone that has tested the new sensor stops by to answer your questions.

TK421 · Sep 19, 2016

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Originally Posted by Pragmatist

The black and silver one has the Avago A9800, and the plain black one has the Avago A3050. I bought them to test the software, and they are pretty cheap so I got two for the hell of it. Let's hope someone that has tested the new sensor stops by to answer your questions.

I buy from Taobao, hopefully someone can give some insight when I open up the mouse.

wareya · Sep 20, 2016

http://www.pixart.com.tw/product_data.asp?product_id=157&productclassify_id=1&productclassify2_id=3&productclassify_name=&productclassify2_name=&partnumber=PMW3325DB-TWV1

iceskeleton · Sep 20, 2016

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http://www.pixart.com.tw/product_data.asp?product_id=157&productclassify_id=1&productclassify2_id=3&productclassify_name=&productclassify2_name=&partnumber=PMW3325DB-TWV1

Is it possible for these sensors (3360 as well) to be fixed frame rate? I noticed they write this down on them.
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The chip comes with self-adjusting variable frame rate algorithm to enable wireless gaming application.

Seems it's only there for power efficiency.

TK421 · Sep 20, 2016

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Is it possible for these sensors (3360 as well) to be fixed frame rate? I noticed they write this down on them.
Seems it's only there for power efficiency.

hmm, doesn't say the native cpi step :|

Bucake · Sep 20, 2016

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hmm, doesn't say the native cpi step :|

i assume the same is true for the 3360: http://www.overclock.net/t/1561041/reverse-engineering-3366/100#post_24142200

edit: oh you were talking about the 3325, nevermind

TK421 · Sep 20, 2016

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i assume the same is true for the 3360: http://www.overclock.net/t/1561041/reverse-engineering-3366/100#post_24142200

edit: oh you were talking about the 3325, nevermind

so 3325 is a variant of a the am010 without tweak, can assume the step is 250 similar to G100s?

pixart website does not state this info even on the pdf datasheet

I really need info on this

m0uz · Sep 20, 2016

Hoping the 3325 is 16-bit so it actually has a usable tracking speed at higher CPI values

TK421 · Sep 20, 2016

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Hoping the 3325 is 16-bit so it actually has a usable tracking speed at higher CPI values

did the am010/pmw3320 lose tracking speed over high cpi like the 3050?

uaokkkkkkkk · Sep 20, 2016

The A4tech Bloody mice that have the PMW3325 haven't been released yet.

TK421 · Sep 20, 2016

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The A4tech Bloody mice that have the PMW3325 haven't been released yet.

Hmm, but seller have posted the mouse with 3325 on Taobao?

Says CPI step is from 100 to 5000
CPI可调节范围100至5000 CPI

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