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#741 ·
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I had two out of three monitors hooked up as my 3rd hasnt arrived yet and I could only run one at 165hz. Is 144hz max for multiple displays?
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Got my second one today, again no dead pixels or bleed, this one actually has a bit less of that dark bluish bleed at the bottom bezel, though my first one doesn't have much of it either. Both displays running at 165hz w/gsync enabled no problem. Running it in custom color (haven't calibrated yet so its all at 100 for the values), contrast down to 68 and brightness set to 2. Waiting on the vesa mount i ordered to help free up some desk space.
 
#742 ·
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Is pixel inversion just something that one has to accept with the S2417DG? I'm seeing a few mentions of it in this thread and in reviews on Amazon, but some reviews on Amazon have said that their monitors lack it. I personally am experiencing it on my particular unit, and am wondering if it would be advisable for me to return it and try another one. Another thing to consider is that I bought the monitor for $400 (from Amazon), and I could possibly get a refund and then buy a new one for the $360 they're charging now (assuming the price doesn't increase once stock returns). Additionally, there are two flecks of dust under the matte coating. One is in the bottom left which I haven't noticed outside of my initial checking for defects (I've had the monitor about two weeks), and the other is almost in the direct center of the screen which I have noticed especially when doing amateur image editing as well as in desktop usage and web browsing. It's not noticeable in gaming, though.

Barring those issues, it's a great monitor. The stand is sturdy, and I greatly prefer the "business" design to the "gaming" designs most monitors sporting these features have. The thin bezel is nice, but the matte coating (I think?) goes past the usable screen area until about 1mm from the edge of the monitor, which makes adjustment almost impossible without putting fingerprints everywhere. The smooth motion of 165hz is great, but with a weaker CPU (waiting until Zen), my framerates tend to vary, which in large swings causes a jarring effect between smoothness of motion. Coming from an Asus PB278q, which is a 27" 1440p 60hz IPS, I can say that the reduced screen size is regrettable, but the increased PPI is nice. Not enormous in terms of difference, but noticeable. The colors on the S2417DG are actually not that bad compared to the PB278q's IPS panel. After calibration, they look just slightly less vibrant with a little less color accuracy. I tried increasing the digital vibrance in the Nvidia control panel, but I found that the reduced color accuracy that accompanied it made it look worse. One last minor thing to note is that the monitor has some strange behavior when it comes to power-on-state. I immediately disabled power-saving mode due to hearing about strange behavior that accompanied it and not really caring about slightly increased power usage, so perhaps it has something to do with that, but the monitor doesn't seem to power off when you press the power button but rather go into a low-power state. It's not a deal-breaker, but it did cause confusion when trying to enable the overclock, as I had to physically unplug the monitor and then plug it back in to make the setting stick. Maybe this occurs to prevent either the splash screen, as I noticed that I don't see it every time I turn the monitor on as I did with the Asus, or else to prevent that bug with running display port at high resolutions causing your desktop icons to move whenever you turned the screen off, which was also a problem with the Asus that I am thankful to (seemingly) be rid of. All in all, this monitor is a huge upgrade from the Asus PB278q, and is definitely worth the asking price.

I would love an answer on if the pixel inversion is an issue across the entire model or just a recurring defect, if anyone could provide one. Honestly, I might just get a replacement to try and rid myself of that fleck of dust in the center of the screen regardless.
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I had pixel inversion on my A00
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#744 ·
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What's the best way to test/look for it? I've seen it on previous monitors but i haven't noticed it on the Dell from normal usage.
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I had pixel inversion on my A00
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I noticed it in h1z1 when swinging my mouse around. Everything would go almost Haze like for a split second. Hard to describe, but very miminal and over before you really know what it is!
 
#745 ·
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I'm wondering if Windows 10 scales it automatically. It would make sense since a lot of my apps are blurry. I know Steam looks blurry. I'll have to check and go with 100%
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Windows 10 scales it to 125% automatically. My monitor came in today, and the DPI is not too small on the desktop but I find it a bit small for webpages like reddit and forums. I've left desktop scaling at 100% (native) and upped chrome's zoom to 110% and so far I think this combination is perfect! Tried to calibrate the best I could, but still waiting on the colormunki calibrator I snagged off amazon during black friday.
 
#746 ·
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Got my second one today, again no dead pixels or bleed, this one actually has a bit less of that dark bluish bleed at the bottom bezel, though my first one doesn't have much of it either. Both displays running at 165hz w/gsync enabled no problem. Running it in custom color (haven't calibrated yet so its all at 100 for the values), contrast down to 68 and brightness set to 2. Waiting on the vesa mount i ordered to help free up some desk space.
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Thanks for that. Ill mess with it more once i get time to hook up all 3.
 
#747 ·
So this may sound weird but i'm sending back one and sticking to one monitor. I seem to prefer using a single monitor, Having that second monitor on the side just distracts me when gaming tbh. I'm keeping the second one that came in since it virtually has none of that lower bezel bleed, the first one i got has some towards the bottom right especially, even with both monitors at 2 brightness you could still see it slightly.
 
#748 ·
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So this may sound weird but i'm sending back one and sticking to one monitor. I seem to prefer using a single monitor, Having that second monitor on the side just distracts me when gaming tbh. I'm keeping the second one that came in since it virtually has none of that lower bezel bleed, the first one i got has some towards the bottom right especially, even with both monitors at 2 brightness you could still see it slightly.
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That's pretty much me. One front and center is all i need. So what do you think about the coating? Will you be attempting to remove it?
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#749 ·
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I would switch it out. I received two of my three yesterday and havent had a ton of time to test them but i havent noticed any pixel inversion. Both screens are defect free as well that i can tell.
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I had pixel inversion on my A00
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Thank you for the answers. I've ordered a replacement to see if I can't at least rid myself of that dust in the center of the panel. It's bothering me even as I type this.
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What's the best way to test/look for it? I've seen it on previous monitors but i haven't noticed it on the Dell from normal usage.
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I noticed it most often when I had the brightness at a higher value (50 or more), especially before adjusting gamma in-game. It shows on lighter colours better than darker ones. I never actually noticed it outside of games, and very rarely in instances that weren't displaying any kind of significant motion, although I did see it on some still loading screens in PlanetSide 2. It especially tends to occur in instances where semi-transparent textures are being used, such as with fog and mist. The mist of Skyrim's waterfalls are a good example of that. It's also much more noticeable with a lower frame rate. I saw it a lot in Overwatch when I played during the free weekend. It seemed to occur on walls most often, there.
 
#750 ·
This monitor is epic. For you who play Overwatch. Historically I've had a accuracy around 35% with Pharah, yesterday, on my first match on the S2417DG, I had 51% with Pharah. That is by far the highest accuracy I've ever seen on Pharah on my own profile. Now, these things can differ from match to match, but I bet I'll get a significantly higher accuracy this season, after getting a 165 (144) hz monitor.

Anyhow, when using the UFO tests, how are you previewing percieving the top (fast) UFO? I remember seeing this test on my friends Benq with light boost, and the top UFO was 100% clear. This was on 144hz though. It is not clear to me, it has a slight fuzz around it. How does it look for you?

http://www.testufo.com/#test=framerates
 
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#752 ·
I just got my second one and the colors look a bit better with the calibrated profile, nothing huge, but I can notice it. It's another perfect panel, so I've only had 1 bad out of 3 I've gotten. The box also had a 1" gash in it exactly where the screen lays, so I was a bit worried, but the packaging protected it well. Stand is a lot smoother to move up and down, my other 2 were very stiff. Power button is still really stiff. 165hz works on desktop with no flickering! My past two had flickering with 165hz on desktop, but they were all fine in-game at 165hz.
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I am going to be using this with a 1060 pushed to the limit. I assume that I should keep it at 144Hz and not bother with the OC?
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There is no reason why you shouldn't be using 165hz for gaming, unless the overclock isn't stable. If there is no weird flickering or artificating in-game, you should be using it for a slight edge and a tiny bump in motion clarity. You have G-Sync, so you never have to worry about using a refresh rate you can't match with your FPS. Just cap your frame rate in-game, or use NVIDIA inspector to set a global cap to 164 (fps tends to go 1 fps over cap, so you set it to 164 to have the overflow fps only hit 165 and still stay in the range), or you will get tearing if you go outside of the G-Sync range - 30 - 165hz.
 
#754 ·
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Thank you for the answers. I've ordered a replacement to see if I can't at least rid myself of that dust in the center of the panel. It's bothering me even as I type this.
I noticed it most often when I had the brightness at a higher value (50 or more), especially before adjusting gamma in-game. It shows on lighter colours better than darker ones. I never actually noticed it outside of games, and very rarely in instances that weren't displaying any kind of significant motion, although I did see it on some still loading screens in PlanetSide 2. It especially tends to occur in instances where semi-transparent textures are being used, such as with fog and mist. The mist of Skyrim's waterfalls are a good example of that. It's also much more noticeable with a lower frame rate. I saw it a lot in Overwatch when I played during the free weekend. It seemed to occur on walls most often, there.
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I guess i won't see the problem then since im running mine at 8 brightness now which is about 48 nits.
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That's pretty much me. One front and center is all i need. So what do you think about the coating? Will you be attempting to remove it?
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I think someone somewhere posted a dematted s2417dg already and it looked good, im actually not too bothered by this monitors coating, its quite light, and i no longer need to see my keyboards leds reflect off my screen when i press a key
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That said i'm in the process of calibrating the monitor and i'm debating whether or not i even want an icc profile for this thing. My settings are:
8 brightness
75 contrast
95/95/100 for RGB
Here are the UNCALIBRATED results:





This monitor is giving me a nearly perfect BT.1886 gamma curve, greyscale looks great, just a few colors have large deltas but that's honestly to be expected from a TN which is prone to either under saturating or over saturating some colors, still looks great regardless.
 
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Anyone having issues with 165hz Gsync? Had mine come in today, but 165hz Gsync straight up refuses to work with a blank flickering screen. Turning off Gsync or disabling the OC solves the problem
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Is that with the included dp cable?
 
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@ Malinkadink,was there any need to lower the contrast to 68 as noted by Tom's Hardware? Is 95,95,100 your final calibration, or still finetuning?
Runing mine at 12 brightness, still have to order a Spyder or X-Rite, as i left mine outside the country at my brothers place ?...
 
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