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The "all new" RX 580 is... what we all expected. A rebadge/respin. What I didn't expect is a higher TDP which in this case, it is quite higher than the RX 480's 150w (around 218 for the Asus version).
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It is a little crazy to see a product that sits in this performance range with a 30cm cooler. It is indicative of the fact that the new RX 580 cards require more voltage, produce more heat and thus have higher power consumption. Apparently ASUS felt the need to apply a three slot cooler with three fans onto this product. Whatever you think of that fact, it works well though as the cooler is silent and the temperatures remain under control. Our one gripe with our sample was coil whine, we had significant amounts of it. As stated we'll have to check up some other reviews and/or user experiences and do hope this was an isolated issue on our sample. The card performance nicely and with the 8GB of graphics memory you can game at 2560x1440 really well for a fair amount of money. There's just nothing wrong with the Radeon RX 580 as it offers great value at the same price as last years RX 480. The 269 ~ 279 USD for a customized AIB version is merely a tenner or two over reference and that makes this an attractive 1080p and even 1440p graphics card. However if you already own a R9 390 / Fury / Rx 470 or 480 then you're already good to go as there is no need or necessity to upgrade as we need bigger performance improvements to make that happen. While it is more of the same we'll still recommend the product as the Radeon RX 580 certainly deserves a that. Remember though, it has three fans, eats three slots and is 30 cm in length! But yes, it's a great performing card up-to that and including the WQHD domain.
Seems the innovation from AMD in the GPU department will not come until VEGA is released.

Cheers!

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_rx_580_strix_review,1.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-rx-580-gaming-x-review,1.html
 
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Originally Posted by pokerapar88 View Post

The "all new" RX 580 is... what we all expected. A rebadge. What I didn't expect is a higher TDP which in this case, it is quite higher than the RX 480's 150w (around 218 for the Asus version).
Cheers!

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_radeon_rx_580_strix_review,1.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-rx-580-gaming-x-review,1.html
Not a rebadge. It's able to hit 1400MHz to 1500MHz. It's been re-engineered. Same GPU, made slightly better.

That's not a rebadge.
 
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Not a rebadge. It's able to hit 1400MHz to 1500MHz. It's been re-engineered. Same GPU, made slightly better.

That's not a rebadge.
Well, its a better FinFet+ tech for what I've read. But it's basically the same GPU which can reach higher clocks at the cost of way higher power consumption... so though it's not a technical rebadge nor a die shrink, it's basically the same GPU with 0 innovation. Those 100-200mhz don't make the GPU faster than a GTX 980 in some games. Still not worthwile for a new gen of gpus. they could just name them RX480+ or something like that.
 
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Correct if I'm wrong , but couldn't the later samples of the Rx 480 hit those clockspeeds with higher voltages aswell ?
I think that they wouldn't go higher than 1380mhz on the best binned gpus (without bios mods and such)
 
It's a re-spin rather than a re-badge. Small difference.
 
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Crap, absolute re branded crap. Increased TDP, increased power consumption, no visible architectural improvements besidess RTG saying "Oh we tweaked the process and tightened the voltage regulation". Absolutely NO overclocking for enthusiasts whatsoever.

If Vega isn't any good then RTG might as well pack it up and the staff start sending out resumes. This garbage has to stop.
 
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Not a rebadge. It's able to hit 1400MHz to 1500MHz. It's been re-engineered. Same GPU, made slightly better.

That's not a rebadge.
It sounds like it's hitting higher clocks through the use of higher voltage and power (just like the 390). So it isn't the result of process improvements, it doesn't appear, but brute force.
 
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Well, its a better FinFet+ tech for what I've read. But it's basically the same GPU which can reach higher clocks at the cost of way higher power consumption... so though it's not a technical rebadge nor a die shrink, it's basically the same GPU with 0 innovation. Those 100-200mhz don't make the GPU faster than a GTX 980 in some games. Still not worthwile for a new gen of gpus. they could just name them RX480+ or something like that.
See --> Kabylake..
 
Almost 1 year later and only now AMD manages to beat the GTX1060, just barely. This is absolutely atrocious as far as innovation and progress is concerned. I guess it's a decent mid range GPU for the masses, but damn, enthusiast in me couldn't be more bored. Oh and power consumption is a joke, as always.
 
Shocking. I have no words yet I need to buy Vega because AMD needs the cash inflow.
 
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Almost 1 year later and only now AMD manages to beat the GTX1060, just barely. This is absolutely atrocious as far as innovation and progress is concerned. I guess it's a decent mid range GPU for the masses, but damn, enthusiast in me couldn't be more bored. Oh and power consumption is a joke, as always.
RX 480s were actually beating GTX 1060s due to driver maturation. This is not a generational release thing.
 
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It sounds like it's hitting higher clocks through the use of higher voltage and power (just like the 390). So it isn't the result of process improvements, it doesn't appear, but brute force.
This precisely.

 
At least it's close now to Fury @ 1080p
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...Seems like a nope for me. ;/
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Not even closer to delivering I'm afraid.

The 1060 still matches or outperforms it, only this time it actually isn't just more power efficient, but FAR more power efficient.
Agreed. Actually, I think they should be named RX 480/70/60/50 + instead of using the 500 series name. For less than 15% of performance increase, it starts to look like Intel's late roadmap.
 
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