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I wouldn't worry about it. M.2 drives are so ridiculously fast now that even if it's a tad bit slower than the Gen3, I can all but guarantee that the only place you could ever see it was on a graph and definitely nothing you'd notice in real world use. Still worth it I would say.
 
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No, it won't be noticeable. The performance advantages with NVMe don't manifest themselves unless you're performing drive-intensive tasks. With normal usage, the only place you're likely to notice is loading Windows. Instead of taking 15 seconds, it might take half that time. Your money is likely better spent on a higher capacity AHCI SSD regardless of interface, SATA or M.2.
 
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NVMe SSDs have rather impressive benchmarks, but the additional performance doesn't translate to real-world scenarios. You would only see a benefit if your current SSDs were the bottleneck. There's very few scenarios where an AHCI SSD would be the bottleneck.
 
I used my NVME samsung drive as a game drive for my sandbox games, like skyrim modded and GTA V.

I have directly compared them to being installed on my 500gb sata 850 EVO, and NVME wins every time in game loading. In game, when you are traveling quite fast in GTA V, texture pop-in is somewhat smoother, but overall game play remains nearly unchanged.

Id say save the NVME decision for when you are doing many MANY tasks that require fast loading.

For the most part, faster/lower latency system memory will have a stronger impact than drive speed. As long as the drive is capable of finding the data it needs in a timely fashion, the difference between sata and M.s NVME will be a minor amount

That certainly should not stop you from installing an M.2 drive if you have a spot for it on your motherboard
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Even if you simply wanted to test the waters and get a cheap 32gb NVME drive for 40 bucks or something, that would still be good enough to move your paging file to it, user profiles, caching files for internet browsers, etc..

When I went to my NVME for my skyrim modding stuff, nearly everything sped up, as my modding basically creates a virtual drive system (mod organizer) to keep the game folder clean. NVME speeds helped this dramatically.

I personally am using PCIE 2.0 4x with my drive.
 
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Thanks mattliston

modern motherboards today announce ultra m.2 where you use 2 or 3 M.2 in raid0 but to have this system I will have not only buy M.2 drives but also change my board, CPU, RAM and Cooler !! alot of money to spend.
 
A NVMe RAID array is impractical and you'll be bottlenecked by Windows. Windows already can't achieve the maximum speeds premium NVMe SSDs are capable of so using them in RAID 0 would net very little tangible benefit. Yes, load times would be faster on a NVMe SSD, but we're talking about fractions of a second. That' why I said you won't notice a difference unless you're performing drive-intensive tasks. If a map in Battlefield 1 loads one second quicker, does it really make a difference in your gameplay? If your drives aren't currently a bottleneck, there's no reason to get a NVMe SSD. Not sure how else to illustrate this.
 
Chances are it isn't. If you're not doing drive-intensive tasks like rendering video, your drive won't be a bottleneck.
 
I wouldnt do a RAID with the NVME. I dont think you can on the Z97? (prove me wrong? )

I'm looking into getting one for my board myself. you'll need to get an adapter like this - https://www.ebay.com/itm/Asus-Hyper-M-2-X4-Mini-SSD-PCI-Express-PCI-E/173026314085?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I'm just waiting to gather all my information together so I can get it. But yeah, its badass and extremely fast.

you'll notice a huge difference from what your using. only thing though is you may see a tiny bit different latency from startup into windows, but no problem, you'll blaze through any program with it.
 
I'm not sure what you're calling a "huge difference." NVMe SSDs are considerably quicker than AHCI SSDs, but you only notice the difference if the task takes long enough for the speed difference to matter. The best examples I have are loading Windows or rendering a 4K video. For "normal" tasks like web browsing or gaming, the performance difference will be minimal. Instead of Chrome taking a quarter of a second to load, it takes a tenth of a second to load. I don't know the actual number, but you're not going to notice the 0.15-second difference in that scenario.
 
You call it "vague" and I call it an exaggeration. The difference is measurable, but imperceptible unless the task takes long enough for the difference to be meaningful. And if you're not doing a lot of tasks like that, NVMe SSDs aren't worth the investment over ACHI SSDs. If someone wants to spend the extra money for a NVMe SSD, I at least want them to be educated on their decision. The last thing I would want is someone purchasing a NVMe SSD expecting drastic performance difference and not being able to tell.
 
I personally only bought my NVME drive because it was an OEM samsung drive that was 256gb and under 100 shipped. Much cheaper than the mainstream 960 drive it basically mimics, minus the fancy ROM firmware that makes it plug and play. enterprise driver from samsung got it working, and I was off to the races with a $15 asus PCIE adapter, also from ebay (and a Z170, according to board printing lol)

For me, it was a reasonable cost to try out some new tech, and something to play around with
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I personally only bought my NVME drive because it was an OEM samsung drive that was 256gb and under 100 shipped. Much cheaper than the mainstream 960 drive it basically mimics, minus the fancy ROM firmware that makes it plug and play. enterprise driver from samsung got it working, and I was off to the races with a $15 asus PCIE adapter, also from ebay (and a Z170, according to board printing lol)

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that-a-boy , you'll love it. cant wait to jump ship with that as well.
 
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