[twitter] Titan V revealed.
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That is the most frustrating part about owning a Nvidia GPU now. They are servery power limited. They have pushed these cards too hard to get the very last MHz. I run my 1080 Ti 1860MHz @ 0.875v with ~ 85-90% power. The same thing at stock uses more power and clocks lower. In the end once you finish benching Nvidia card best solution is just under Volt.Originally Posted by CallsignVega
Especially with how impressive the power section is. I guess NVIDIA designed this board to be under 100% usage for years with zero problems.
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That is the most frustrating part about owning a Nvidia GPU now. They are servery power limited. They have pushed these cards too hard to get the very last MHz. I run my 1080 Ti 1860MHz @ 0.875v with ~ 85-90% power. The same thing at stock uses more power and clocks lower. In the end once you finish benching Nvidia card best solution is just under Volt.
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Sorry for the off topic but I love talking about my bikes! My general advice for anybody who is considering a bike (especially a sport bike) is, if you don't think you have the self control to ride one you are probably right.
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That is absolutely the key to remaining (at least relatively) safe on board a motorcycle. In my 20+ years riding I have of course had many close calls, usually arising from unpredictable situations, but I've yet to go down mostly because I respect the crap out of my bike and fully understand that its abilities far, far exceed my own talent as a rider. I've owned four 600's (my ZX-6R is actually a 636cc but still considered a 600) and one time I made the mistake of deciding I had outgrown supersports by getting myself a brand new 2006 ZX-10R and that thing literally scared the hell out of me! It would do 102 mph in FIRST gear and full acceleration in the first three gears would bring the front tire off the ground with ease. Needless to say that I sold it after 6 months and ended up getting my current Ninja instead.Originally Posted by rluker5
I hope my 1080tis handle 4k as well for as long as my 780tis are handling 1440p. They are starting out about even with those respective resolutions and sli "1060s" (after a setting adj or 2) are no slouch at 1440p even today.
It really is the resolution that requires more gpu. Sometimes there are cheap shots at earlier cards like the volumetric lighting indoors in FO4 or how bad they made Dishonored 2 look in some spots without AO but usually this is the exception.
No way I'm getting a fast bike though. The county 5 miles of the west of me has few people, is all rolling hills with great views, almost no police and a ton of deer. Already totaled a 2 yr old car on one. My self control isn't good enough to keep me safe.![rolleyes.gif]( "rolleyes.gif")
Sorry for the off topic but I love talking about my bikes! My general advice for anybody who is considering a bike (especially a sport bike) is, if you don't think you have the self control to ride one you are probably right.
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To be fair, Nvidia did NOT design this card with gaming and/or benching in mind (as I keep repeating), so its power limitations are totally understandable.Originally Posted by CallsignVega
Especially with how impressive the power section is. I guess NVIDIA designed this board to be under 100% usage for years with zero problems.
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I would think it borrowed a similar Tesla PCB. Also, the power limitations does make sense for the intended usage of this card.Originally Posted by CallsignVega
Especially with how impressive the power section is. I guess NVIDIA designed this board to be under 100% usage for years with zero problems.
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It's only my 4th riding season but ride 4K+ a year in north east Ohio where we currently have 8" of snow on the ground! Lol
I went from my FZ6R to my current Repsol 1000RR. I have to say I absolutely love super sports. I can never go back to the 600 once I rode the CBR. I respect the power for sure. But the taller gearing and aesthetics were what I was after.. Maybe here or there a little throttle therapy lolOriginally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric
That is absolutely the key to remaining (at least relatively) safe on board a motorcycle. In my 20+ years riding I have of course had many close calls, usually arising from unpredictable situations, but I've yet to go down mostly because I respect the crap out of my bike and fully understand that its abilities far, far exceed my own talent as a rider. I've owned four 600's (my ZX-6R is actually a 636cc but still considered a 600) and one time I made the mistake of deciding I had outgrown supersports by getting myself a brand new 2006 ZX-10R and that thing literally scared the hell out of me! It would do 102 mph in FIRST gear and full acceleration in the first three gears would bring the front tire off the ground with ease. Needless to say that I sold it after 6 months and ended up getting my current Ninja instead.
Sorry for the off topic but I love talking about my bikes! My general advice for anybody who is considering a bike (especially a sport bike) is, if you don't think you have the self control to ride one you are probably right.![thumb.gif]( "thumb.gif")
It's only my 4th riding season but ride 4K+ a year in north east Ohio where we currently have 8" of snow on the ground! Lol
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That is what I'm doing as well. Pascal GPUs (and probably Volta) perform poorly when they hit power limit and they have to constantly lower clocks. Frametimes are way worse. Only real option is to either undervolt or shunt mod.Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er
That is the most frustrating part about owning a Nvidia GPU now. They are servery power limited. They have pushed these cards too hard to get the very last MHz. I run my 1080 Ti 1860MHz @ 0.875v with ~ 85-90% power. The same thing at stock uses more power and clocks lower. In the end once you finish benching Nvidia card best solution is just under Volt.
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Bout to get my preorder in
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Does undervolt actually overclock the card?Originally Posted by Clukos
That is what I'm doing as well. Pascal GPUs (and probably Volta) perform poorly when they hit power limit and they have to constantly lower clocks. Frametimes are way worse. Only real option is to either undervolt or shunt mod.
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One example with the 1080 Ti:
Stock card: 1.062 - 1.043 vcore at 1950-ish clock with drops down to 1870~ <- Hits power limit
Undervolt: 1.000 vcore at 2012 constant core clock with drops down to 2000 when it exceeds 70C <- Doesn't hit power limit
Of course, with a shunt mod you can push both voltage and clocks much higher without hitting the power limit. It would be a lot easier if Nvidia just let us modify the BIOS
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Depends on how lucky you are with the silicon lottery. Undervolting just ensures your GPU never hits power limits (same as shunt modding), and it also ensures a constant core clock as long as you don't hit thermal limits. And of course, it improves the thermal behavior of the card. I would assume the Titan V gains a lot by undervolting because you might gain some overhead with the HBM2 OC.Originally Posted by guttheslayer
Does undervolt actually overclock the card?
One example with the 1080 Ti:
Stock card: 1.062 - 1.043 vcore at 1950-ish clock with drops down to 1870~ <- Hits power limit
Undervolt: 1.000 vcore at 2012 constant core clock with drops down to 2000 when it exceeds 70C <- Doesn't hit power limit
Of course, with a shunt mod you can push both voltage and clocks much higher without hitting the power limit. It would be a lot easier if Nvidia just let us modify the BIOS
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So will Nvidia realise 3-4 of these ? Titan V, Titan Xv, Titan XV, Titan XV Collectors Edition ? Or will they only releasing this Titan and the 2000`s series Ti will get the new treatment like the Pascal Titan?
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But tbh I usually undervolt too since 2 are plenty in the games I have been playing and I can keep the fans at base. Also keeps the room cooler.
Some AIBs don't have this problem. My Aorus waterforce 1080ti aios have a stock 375w power limit (after sliding the bar to 150% in AB) and the aio generally keeps them below 60c. Would be a good thing to check a big Volta for. AIB AIOs are getting a lot more popular these days.Originally Posted by Clukos
Depends on how lucky you are with the silicon lottery. Undervolting just ensures your GPU never hits power limits (same as shunt modding), and it also ensures a constant core clock as long as you don't hit thermal limits. And of course, it improves the thermal behavior of the card. I would assume the Titan V gains a lot by undervolting because you might gain some overhead with the HBM2 OC.
One example with the 1080 Ti:
Stock card: 1.062 - 1.043 vcore at 1950-ish clock with drops down to 1870~ <- Hits power limit
Undervolt: 1.000 vcore at 2012 constant core clock with drops down to 2000 when it exceeds 70C <- Doesn't hit power limit
Of course, with a shunt mod you can push both voltage and clocks much higher without hitting the power limit. It would be a lot easier if Nvidia just let us modify the BIOS![rolleyes.gif]( "rolleyes.gif")
But tbh I usually undervolt too since 2 are plenty in the games I have been playing and I can keep the fans at base. Also keeps the room cooler.
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I haven't looked into this in awhile. Do you need a custom BIOS to under-volt? Nothing in say MSI Afterburner allows me to under-volt. The "core voltage %" slider goes from 0-100 but I'm pretty sure zero is stock.Originally Posted by Clukos
Depends on how lucky you are with the silicon lottery. Undervolting just ensures your GPU never hits power limits (same as shunt modding), and it also ensures a constant core clock as long as you don't hit thermal limits. And of course, it improves the thermal behavior of the card. I would assume the Titan V gains a lot by undervolting because you might gain some overhead with the HBM2 OC.
One example with the 1080 Ti:
Stock card: 1.062 - 1.043 vcore at 1950-ish clock with drops down to 1870~ <- Hits power limit
Undervolt: 1.000 vcore at 2012 constant core clock with drops down to 2000 when it exceeds 70C <- Doesn't hit power limit
Of course, with a shunt mod you can push both voltage and clocks much higher without hitting the power limit. It would be a lot easier if Nvidia just let us modify the BIOS![rolleyes.gif]( "rolleyes.gif")
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0.900 - 1.000 vcore is the sweetspot for Pascal, not sure about Volta.
Control + F should open up the voltage curve, you just manually adjust the voltage/frequency to where you want it (everything after your set clock/voltage should be a flat line). This is 2012/1.000 vcore for example:Originally Posted by CallsignVega
I haven't looked into this in awhile. Do you need a custom BIOS to under-volt? Nothing in say MSI Afterburner allows me to under-volt. The "core voltage %" slider goes from 0-100 but I'm pretty sure zero is stock.
0.900 - 1.000 vcore is the sweetspot for Pascal, not sure about Volta.
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The idea to under-volt in order to maintain a higher and stable overclock sound intriguing.
I assume is because of the power formula P=VI where lowering the voltage at a fixed capped power give more ampere.
So the consensus is that more ampere = more clock?
I assume is because of the power formula P=VI where lowering the voltage at a fixed capped power give more ampere.
So the consensus is that more ampere = more clock?
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Undervolting is all about making your card more efficient. It's just that with Pascal the vcore overhead is so big you can actually undervolt and overclock at the same time.Originally Posted by guttheslayer
The idea to under-volt in order to maintain a higher and stable overclock sound intriguing.
I assume is because of the power formula P=VI where lowering the voltage at a fixed capped power give more ampere.
So the consensus is that more ampere = more clock?
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That doesn't work with Volta. Even with the latest MSI AB, voltage is read as 0 mV and the CTR-F voltage is just a straight line that isn't editable.Originally Posted by Clukos
Control + F should open up the voltage curve, you just manually adjust the voltage/frequency to where you want it (everything after your set clock/voltage should be a flat line). This is 2012/1.000 vcore for example:
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0.900 - 1.000 vcore is the sweetspot for Pascal, not sure about Volta.
the voltage line is there it's below the 1000mhz line, if you set 100 or more in the core setting then cntrl F you will see the voltage curve but if you then set up a curve it will still bounce off the PLLL like crazy and doesn't give any better results, much better cooling is needed, I see Slinky has mounted a Universal block but I don't know what adapter to get it mounted
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No, the line is locked on 1200 and nothing you click on does anything. Clicking in the 1000 area on the bottom of the Ctr-F chart also does nothing. MSI Afterburner cannot read Volta voltage, so it would make sense that this does not work.Originally Posted by Menthol
the voltage line is there it's below the 1000mhz line, if you set 100 or more in the core setting then cntrl F you will see the voltage curve but if you then set up a curve it will still bounce off the PLLL like crazy and doesn't give any better results, much better cooling is needed, I see Slinky has mounted a Universal block but I don't know what adapter to get it mounted
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