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Is it possible for a chip to just not be able to do anything better than 3200MHz, or am I just sucking at finding the sweet spot? I've spent hours trying to get something above that running on my 2700X, and whilst I can get to the point that games and day to day applications seem stable enough, it will never, ever past memtest (failing out relatively quickly too). On the other hand, I can run 3200MHz with timings tighter than the fast preset in the calculator without issue and fully stable. It just seems like my chip absolutely refuses to do any clock speed above that. I've tried 3333, 3400 and 3466 all without success and tweaked and retweaked every voltage and timing that the calculator and flowchart have listings for. Using a 3866MHz C18 G.Skill B-die kit and a Crosshair VI for reference.
 
Did you increase the voltage? 3600 crashed within seconds or minutes for me, now I can run it a few hours at 1.48 V. 3533 will run fine at 1.43 V. It seems to be less an issue with the SOC voltage for me, so its probably right Zen+ needs less SOC. When I noticed it to crash very quick it was usually too low voltage.
 
Did you increase the voltage? 3600 crashed within seconds or minutes for me, now I can run it a few hours at 1.48 V. 3533 will run fine at 1.43 V. It seems to be less an issue with the SOC voltage for me, so its probably right Zen+ needs less SOC. When I noticed it to crash very quick it was usually too low voltage.
Yeah, I've gone up to 1.45V on the memory and it changed nothing. I'm not comfortable going higher than that for "only" 3466. I've even tried the safe timings from the calculator at higher voltages and even those weren't stable. I've had the memory kit running at its rated 3866 in an Intel system via XMP without issues, so I know it's "good" so to speak. It's just irritating me at this point, even if the gains would be minor from a very tight 3200.
 
I think even 1.45 V is too low, I tried that too, but it would go unstable after a few seconds or minutes. My record so far is five hours. 3200 to 3466 is a slight difference, after that the difference is probably nonexistant if you run 3466 at very tight settings. So 3600 remains as a dream.

I bought these kits for future proofing, so I will not have problems with future CPUs. 4266 is one of the fastest kits you can currently buy and I wish Zen 2 supported it and scaled as well as it if Zen does with lower speeds. The results seem fantastic, even at 3533 CL14 you get Min-FPS like with Intel-CPUs.
 

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So while testing with memtest is it normal to have half of the instances be roughly 100% behind the other half? ie with my 2600x I have 12 instances and after 1 hour half of them will be at say 200% and the other will be around 100%. I'm assuming it's because half are using the real cores while the other are coming from threads. Then when I look at screenshots of others running memtest everyone's instances are near equal so I'm a bit worried and confused.

EDIT: Could it be because I'm putting too much ram in memtest? I have 16gb but on desktop with nothing running I have around 13-13.5gb left so for each instance I put 1050 which totals 12.6gb. Thing is when I look at my available memory after starting the test it shows I still have 1gb left even if I had 13gb before running the test. Could it be using pagefile?
I can't say I have had such a big gap. Does not matter if I have used Ryzen gen1/2 with C6H or C7H and even on TR+ZE. It's more like below ~50% from highest% instance and lowest % instance, I have done runs of over 7hrs at times.

Run something like HWINFO, fire up the HCI test and you should be able to see instantly in HWINFO if the settings used for HCI loaded up the pagefile.
 
Is it possible for a chip to just not be able to do anything better than 3200MHz, or am I just sucking at finding the sweet spot? I've spent hours trying to get something above that running on my 2700X, and whilst I can get to the point that games and day to day applications seem stable enough, it will never, ever past memtest (failing out relatively quickly too). On the other hand, I can run 3200MHz with timings tighter than the fast preset in the calculator without issue and fully stable. It just seems like my chip absolutely refuses to do any clock speed above that. I've tried 3333, 3400 and 3466 all without success and tweaked and retweaked every voltage and timing that the calculator and flowchart have listings for. Using a 3866MHz C18 G.Skill B-die kit and a Crosshair VI for reference.
try 3502 bios, the problem is not in memory and not in the processor

Single errors are module overheating (over 52 degrees) or incorrect secondary timings, such as tFAW, for example. Mass errors are procODT, RTT and voltages.

When you find successful procODT, RTT, and voltages, you need to configure secondary and tertiary timings (tRRDS , tFAW , tRTP, tRDWR , tWRRD).
 
I can't say I have had such a big gap. Does not matter if I have used Ryzen gen1/2 with C6H or C7H and even on TR+ZE. It's more like below ~50% from highest% instance and lowest % instance, I have done runs of over 7hrs at times.

Run something like HWINFO, fire up the HCI test and you should be able to see instantly in HWINFO if the settings used for HCI loaded up the pagefile.
HWINFO shows 0-1% pagefile usage so I think I can rule that out. I ran memtest for 5 hours and attached a screenshot below. Also attached my current timings and Aida bench. As you can see, half of the instances are much slower but show 0 errors. Really not sure what's going on. I ran userbench and it says my ram is at 97th percentile so my ram doesn't seem to be 'slower'.
 

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Ugh, finally getting a nice kit of B-Die again. I haven't went with Patriot for a long time.... but this is the ONLY B-Die in Canada you can get from Amazon.

This is the kit: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07CX6WK5G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'm told this benches VERY well, among the best for a Single Sided kit. That, B-Die, and 3600mhz will make my 2700x very happy. I currently have Hynix MFR @ 3200mhz 14-15-15-15-28-1T with this IMC, I cannot wait to see what this kit can do.

That and I'm getting some decent Internet here, 25/5. Now don't laugh, I'm rural and my modem is wireless. This new modem they are installing is going to be amazing. 4K streaming will finally work in my place. :)

Going to be a great week! Cheers boys!

try 3502 bios, the problem is not in memory and not in the processor

Single errors are module overheating (over 52 degrees) or incorrect secondary timings, such as tFAW, for example. Mass errors are procODT, RTT and voltages.

When you find successful procODT, RTT, and voltages, you need to configure secondary and tertiary timings (tRRDS , tFAW , tRTP, tRDWR , tWRRD).
I would like to personally thank you for the time you put into the Ryzen RAM Calculator application. Thank you.

I was able to take my lowly Hynix MFR 8GB kit to 3200mhz 14-15-15-15-28-1T with this tool. Very much appreciated.
 
The Team Dark pro 3200c14 Bdie ia also a very good kit for Ryzen.
 
Is it possible for a chip to just not be able to do anything better than 3200MHz, or am I just sucking at finding the sweet spot? I've spent hours trying to get something above that running on my 2700X, and whilst I can get to the point that games and day to day applications seem stable enough, it will never, ever past memtest (failing out relatively quickly too). On the other hand, I can run 3200MHz with timings tighter than the fast preset in the calculator without issue and fully stable. It just seems like my chip absolutely refuses to do any clock speed above that. I've tried 3333, 3400 and 3466 all without success and tweaked and retweaked every voltage and timing that the calculator and flowchart have listings for. Using a 3866MHz C18 G.Skill B-die kit and a Crosshair VI for reference.
try 3502 bios, the problem is not in memory and not in the processor

Single errors are module overheating (over 52 degrees) or incorrect secondary timings, such as tFAW, for example. Mass errors are procODT, RTT and voltages.

When you find successful procODT, RTT, and voltages, you need to configure secondary and tertiary timings (tRRDS , tFAW , tRTP, tRDWR , tWRRD).
Do you maybe know why ram that is stable and has passed hci 2000%, and memtest5 16 cycles becomes unstable after a shutdown/reboot with the exact same timings and temperatures?

EDIT: memclear disabled fixed stability between reboots.
 
Managed to get 2 kits of 2x16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200 CL16 running at 3466 and 3533 respectively on their own, the former being Hynix M, the latter kit being Samsung B, both dual rank. Together they only run at 3200 16 18 18 36 with 1.39V but they are rock solid.

Crosshair VII
R5 2600 @ 4.0 manual all-core with ~1.36V on auto and 23°C idle and ~60℃ under AIDA stress test or Prime95. Going to try higher after some prolonged heavy load testing
SOC 1.1635
PLL 1.7

Didnt manage for the life of me to tighten timings of the full 64GB RAM rack though. Not even sub timings budged an inch. Averages ~50000 on bench. Guess it's fine for a temporary system until Zen2 drops though.
 
Anyone here ever tried to overclock Micron B-Dies? I managed to get my old 3000 CL18 overclock working again, but I'm not really happy with it. Its a 4x4 config and won't even boot 3200. The RAM is a 2400 CL17 kit from 2016 that I previously used for my Quadchannel X99 rig, but now was reused in my Ryzen 1700 HTPC.
 
new cpu same stability :D
 

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Try this. It's stable for me. I have to run 1.5V on DRAM though.
Thanks i'll give them a try ,but i dont want to run so high volrages for 24/7. I try to stay as low as i can on voltages.
 
Any ideas what i should try next? This is what i am running atm.
1. Pic with 24/7 settings, second with higher cpu oc.
Maybe i should change the fan above the ram to intake for better temps.
I am using 3600CL17 Gskill RGB RAM with Samsung B Dies.
 

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Which voltage for the ram? Wonderful aida sir

Any ideas what i should try next? This is what i am running atm.
1. Pic with 24/7 settings, second with higher cpu oc.
Maybe i should change the fan above the ram to intake for better temps.
I am using 3600CL17 Gskill RGB RAM with Samsung B Dies.
 
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