(Gigabyte Z390 AORUS Owners Thread)

Artroxa · Jan 14, 2019

So, on to some more basic stuff.

I have the fractal design define r6 which comes with 3 case fans per default, altough they are 3 pin connectors.
The issue im having is that my aorus master just dont seem to wanna pump voltage into the 3 pins even tho i noticed the sys fan connectors seem to have 3pin orientation.

So trying to use the case pwm hub ( i know, ****ty ) the only way i could get the motherboard to even spin the case fans was by popping the all the case fans + cpu fan into the PWM hub, and then connecting that to the CPU fan, however this REALLY cranks up the volume of the fans as the case fans seems to be either be off or going full RPM mode.

Has anyone else had issues with this or is everyone just running 4 pin PWM fans?
11 days til paycheck....

KedarWolf · Jan 14, 2019

Artroxa said:
So, on to some more basic stuff.

I have the fractal design define r6 which comes with 3 case fans per default, altough they are 3 pin connectors.
The issue im having is that my aorus master just dont seem to wanna pump voltage into the 3 pins even tho i noticed the sys fan connectors seem to have 3pin orientation.

So trying to use the case pwm hub ( i know, ****ty ) the only way i could get the motherboard to even spin the case fans was by popping the all the case fans + cpu fan into the PWM hub, and then connecting that to the CPU fan, however this REALLY cranks up the volume of the fans as the case fans seems to be either be off or going full RPM mode.

Has anyone else had issues with this or is everyone just running 4 pin PWM fans?
11 days til paycheck....

In BIOS need to change the fans settings from Auto or PWM to Voltage.

Artroxa · Jan 14, 2019

KedarWolf said:
In BIOS need to change the fans settings from Auto or PWM to Voltage.

JFC, you just saved me alot of headache and some dollars, surprised i couldnt find this in the manual or by googling at all tbh.

KedarWolf · Jan 14, 2019

Artroxa said:
JFC, you just saved me alot of headache and some dollars, surprised i couldnt find this in the manual or by googling at all tbh.

Glad to help. In your Inbox, you'll find my invoice for $49.99 plus applicable taxes for tech support services rendered.

Artroxa · Jan 14, 2019

KedarWolf said:
Glad to help. In your Inbox, you'll find my invoice for $49.99 plus applicable taxes for tech support services rendered.

Then il have to request a full looktrough as to why my comp refuses to boot with any sort devation from "auto" on the cpu power settings, vcore, LLC, any of that.

No guide will make it boot but for some reason i can just crank up the core multiplier to 5.1 on the otherwise default settings and its relatively stable, fully stable on 5.0 but im not a big fan of the temps im getting...

talexxx · Jan 14, 2019

Hi!

Really loving the content on this thread! I have been going trough my own OC'ing challanges with the Z390 and 9900K and i've kinda hit a wall, but cant figure out what is going on...

I am running a 9900k on a Z390 Aorus Master with a 2080TI.
I have two kits or RAM - one 2 x 8 Corsair 3200C16 and one 4 x 8 Corsair 3600C16.
My PSU is a Enermax Digifanless 550w, it's rail specification are here: https://www.enermaxusa.com/product.php?pid=72075659#!/Digifanless 550W/p/72075659
I initially had an upgaded PSU in mind - a 750W Seasonic - but removed it as it made funny fan noises, so i went back to my trusty Enermax that is dead quiet.
I am afraid the PSU might be too small, but looking at it's specs and the wall consumption while doing stress testing on CPU + GPU, i dont seem to be going over it's overall rated power. I also dont seem to be going over some specific rail power but i cant tell for sure.

Once i go over 1.35V LLC Turbo with the 9900k on the Z390 Master i'm getting instant shutdowns in Prime95.
If i enable XMP profile on the 3600C16 kit - this seems to push my VCCSA and VCCIO voltages - i'm getting shutdowns ever since 1.3V with LLC Turbo in Prime95.
Here's a clip of it in action:

I'm clearly hitting a limit but i dont know which one - may it be a PSU rail limit or a motherboard limit.
I've removed power limits from the BIOS by setting them to the highest value.
CPU and VRM temps are well in check.

Could you please help me figure out where i'm going wrong?
I really cant figure out where/how to look to understand why i'm getting the instant shutdowns.

Thanks!

Padinn · Jan 14, 2019

Sounds like power supply unit limit to me. 2080ti recommends 600 or 650w and 9900k can consume 160+ watts easily when overclocked.

KedarWolf · Jan 14, 2019

Artroxa said:
Then il have to request a full looktrough as to why my comp refuses to boot with any sort devation from "auto" on the cpu power settings, vcore, LLC, any of that.

No guide will make it boot but for some reason i can just crank up the core multiplier to 5.1 on the otherwise default settings and its relatively stable, fully stable on 5.0 but im not a big fan of the temps im getting...

5GHZ settings. https://www.overclock.net/forum/6-i...ntel-motherboards/1711478-gigabyte-z390-aorus-owners-thread-7.html#post27791250

5.1GHZ https://www.overclock.net/forum/6-i...tel-motherboards/1711478-gigabyte-z390-aorus-owners-thread-16.html#post27779912

DON'T forget IA AC Loadline to 1 or your voltages will be way too high. And you may need more voltage than me, I'm lucky to get the volts that low for CPU Offset for my clocks.

Robbært · Jan 14, 2019

Padinn said:
Sounds like power supply unit limit to me. 2080ti recommends 600 or 650w and 9900k can consume 160+ watts easily when overclocked.

9900k can consume near 275W on ambient cooling
140-160W is MCE without OC

talexxx · Jan 14, 2019

Padinn said:
Sounds like power supply unit limit to me. 2080ti recommends 600 or 650w and 9900k can consume 160+ watts easily when overclocked.

Robbært said:
9900k can consume near 275W on ambient cooling
140-160W is MCE without OC

I'm getting these shutdowns in Prime95 on the CPU, so there is no GPU load involved, only CPU.

Does the CPU draw power off the 12v or 5v PSU rail?
If the CPU draws power from the 12v rail, my PSU is rated for 30A on the 12V that would be 360W: https://www.enermaxusa.com/product.php?pid=72075659#!/Digifanless 550W/p/72075659
Also, i was surprised to see that real gaming load with 9900K OC'ed and 2080ti OC'ed - 3dMark, Tomb Raider maxed out, etc. barely scratches 500W power consumption at the wall....

So if my understanding of all this is very wrong i dont understand why the PSU would be the limiting factor here. I also subjectively feel it might be a "small" PSU but i cant objectively find what of its limits is being surpassed.
It's also a very expensive PSU, so i'm expecting it to deliver on it's rated power specs.

Robbært · Jan 14, 2019

talexxx said:
I'm getting these shutdowns in Prime95 on the CPU, so there is no GPU load involved, only CPU.

Does the CPU draw power off the 12v or 5v PSU rail?
If the CPU draws power from the 12v rail, my PSU is rated for 30A on the 12V that would be 360W: https://www.enermaxusa.com/product.php?pid=72075659#!/Digifanless 550W/p/72075659

Yes, from 12V and CPU alone can 275W
PSU 360W 12V
It all about PSU short circuit and overload protection as power rise.

OutlawII · Jan 14, 2019

Robbært;27805880 said:
talexxx said:

I'm getting these shutdowns in Prime95 on the CPU, so there is no GPU load involved, only CPU.

Does the CPU draw power off the 12v or 5v PSU rail?
If the CPU draws power from the 12v rail, my PSU is rated for 30A on the 12V that would be 360W:

https://www.enermaxusa.com/product.php?pid=72075659#!/Digifanless 550W/p/72075659

Click to expand...

Yes, from 12V and CPU alone can 275W
PSU 360W 12V
It all about PSU short circuit and overload protection as power rise.

Yes dude your running out of power... I was worried about a 750 Watt and your on 550 👎👎

talexxx · Jan 14, 2019

Thank you for the feedback guys!
Ok, so it's obvious that i'm running out of power... Glad to hear it because i really didnt know what else it could be.

I guess i'm just frustrated because i cant figure out _how_ i'm running out of power... I would expect to see something happening just before the crash either in HWMonitor or the PSU monitoring software.

The PSU has monitoring software and no over current protection even comes close to triggering before the shutdown.
I'm not going over the 12v rail rated power consumption, nor past the overall PSU rated capacity.
The PSU monitoring software is showing below 300W power consumption when the crash happens and that includes all power consumption from all components, not only the 12v rail that is rated by itself at 360W.
So i guess i'm writing Enermax an email about this....

Luck100 · Jan 14, 2019

talexxx said:
Thank you for the feedback guys!
Ok, so it's obvious that i'm running out of power... Glad to hear it because i really didnt know what else it could be.

I guess i'm just frustrated because i cant figure out _how_ i'm running out of power... I would expect to see something happening just before the crash either in HWMonitor or the PSU monitoring software.

The PSU has monitoring software and no over current protection even comes close to triggering before the shutdown.
I'm not going over the 12v rail rated power consumption, nor past the overall PSU rated capacity.
The PSU monitoring software is showing below 300W power consumption when the crash happens and that includes all power consumption from all components, not only the 12v rail that is rated by itself at 360W.
So i guess i'm writing Enermax an email about this....

It's never the sustained load that shuts you down, it's the rapid transient spikes. You won't see those in your software.

talexxx · Jan 14, 2019

Luck100 said:
It's never the sustained load that shuts you down, it's the rapid transient spikes. You won't see those in your software.

Thank you for the feedback mate!

I did have a Seasonic Prime Ultra Platinum 750W before but i gave it back because the fan had a horrible grinding sound when running, it was not extremely loud but very noticeable.... This is when i switched back to my trusty Digifanless...
Now that i think of it i dont remember this kind of shut downs with the 750W PSU so i guess this is it....
How is your 1000W PRIME? Does it have the "trademark" grinding sound when the fan spins?

BradleyW · Jan 14, 2019

Any tips on stabilizing an overclocked un-core frequency on a 9900K?

Cheers.

Falkentyne · Jan 14, 2019

talexxx said:
I'm getting these shutdowns in Prime95 on the CPU, so there is no GPU load involved, only CPU.

Does the CPU draw power off the 12v or 5v PSU rail?
If the CPU draws power from the 12v rail, my PSU is rated for 30A on the 12V that would be 360W: https://www.enermaxusa.com/product.php?pid=72075659#!/Digifanless 550W/p/72075659
Also, i was surprised to see that real gaming load with 9900K OC'ed and 2080ti OC'ed - 3dMark, Tomb Raider maxed out, etc. barely scratches 500W power consumption at the wall....

So if my understanding of all this is very wrong i dont understand why the PSU would be the limiting factor here. I also subjectively feel it might be a "small" PSU but i cant objectively find what of its limits is being surpassed.
It's also a very expensive PSU, so i'm expecting it to deliver on it's rated power specs.

Did you increase CPU Current protection? (not VAXG Vcore protection).
I can't believe there have been 10 replies yet not a single person mentioning this very basic setting.
It's even in the gigabyte overclocking guide as well as that video.

Padinn · Jan 14, 2019

KedarWolf said:
Artroxa said:

Then il have to request a full looktrough as to why my comp refuses to boot with any sort devation from "auto" on the cpu power settings, vcore, LLC, any of that.

No guide will make it boot but for some reason i can just crank up the core multiplier to 5.1 on the otherwise default settings and its relatively stable, fully stable on 5.0 but im not a big fan of the temps im getting...

Click to expand...

5GHZ settings. https://www.overclock.net/forum/6-i...ntel-motherboards/1711478-gigabyte-z390-aorus-owners-thread-7.html#post27791250

5.1GHZ https://www.overclock.net/forum/6-i...tel-motherboards/1711478-gigabyte-z390-aorus-owners-thread-16.html#post27779912

DON'T forget IA AC Loadline to 1 or your voltages will be way too high. And you may need more voltage than me, I'm lucky to get the volts that low for CPU Offset for my clocks. /forum/images/smilies/redface.gif

Do you se DC loadline to 0 or 1?

Padinn · Jan 14, 2019

Probably worth noting that PSU does decline with age too.

Falkentyne · Jan 14, 2019

Padinn said:
Probably worth noting that PSU does decline with age too.

My Seasonic 1000W Platinum I purchased on December 2011 is having no problems with my 9900K + Vega64 system. 7 years old.

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