MSI MEG X570 Unify Overclocking & Discussion Thread

eliwankenobi · Jun 5, 2020

Spilly44 said:
Just tried front.Same distortion accompanied now by a buzzing noise
Realtek console working and Nahmic working
Plugging front in cuts off rear output.

Ta for reply

John

In thar case, it seems the problem is the Realtek chip or the amplifier circuit in the analog stage. The buzzing noise is expected. That’s noise caused by EMI/RFI inside the case. I think you may have to RMA the board. Sorry.

Spilly44 · Jun 5, 2020

At the mo it is out of the case.
Think I will rma it.cant spend more time messing
Ta

John

edhutner · Jun 5, 2020

I have seen previously others having issues with the integrated realtek audio and x570 boards. I have never tried mine integrated audio because I am using wireless headset with it's own usb dongle that is acting as a sound card.

Spilly44 · Jun 5, 2020

I've seen them.
My nephew has the same rig as me bar 3900X and mine a 3950X
and his sound is fine.I even tried setting my 3950X to 3.8 which is def 3900x speed
Tried various mem speeds and different sticks.reset bios to default
All drivers installed and Realtek and Nahmic control consoles installed
Pops and crackles.if you stop music u get a sound like a turbo spooling down from speakers.
All music and speech distorted.Tried toslink to av reciever.No distortion but the odd blip
If the Realtek is the sound chip then what roll does the ESS 9018 dac chip play in the sound?
Annoyed becuae apart from this its a damn good board.The only gripe I have with it which is prob petty is
that you cant turn the sata ports off.
Trying to RMA but msi site just sits there saying loading data please wait

John

KedarWolf · Jun 5, 2020

MSI Phone Support hasn't been working over a week now.

You call and it says it's under maintenance.
Before you just couldn't connect at all.

TheGrayHatter · Jun 5, 2020

Spilly44 said:
I've seen them.
My nephew has the same rig as me bar 3900X and mine a 3950X
and his sound is fine.I even tried setting my 3950X to 3.8 which is def 3900x speed
Tried various mem speeds and different sticks.reset bios to default
All drivers installed and Realtek and Nahmic control consoles installed
Pops and crackles.if you stop music u get a sound like a turbo spooling down from speakers.
All music and speech distorted.Tried toslink to av reciever.No distortion but the odd blip
If the Realtek is the sound chip then what roll does the ESS 9018 dac chip play in the sound?
Annoyed becuae apart from this its a damn good board.The only gripe I have with it which is prob petty is
that you cant turn the sata ports off.
Trying to RMA but msi site just sits there saying loading data please wait

John

What bios are you on? I’ve had stability issues with the lastest unlocked found in this threat. Rolled back to the previous unlock and doing fine. I had the same issue persist regarding audio and found my solution was due to utilizing too many pcie 4 lanes while using onboard audio(go figure) If you have a 4.0 name and a Navi gpu and, force it to run at 3x.

Spilly44 · Jun 6, 2020

Thanks for the replies all

Am on Bios A4.2 at the mo but did try them all.In terms of performance my Patriot DDR4 seems to need less voltage on A20 bios
so that's what I've had it on
Should point out I've had the board since January but as I had another computer to use and still do I didn't exactly rush to build it
and this week is the first time I've actually hooked up the sound

Tried it with all slots inc chipset on x 3.Still the same.Have tried nvme drive on board slots and on external card.
Tried nvme and gpu in all slots.
Even tried another power supply
Get three nasty pops through speakers when computer starts windows
Not much left to try really.

Annoying

John

ObviousCough · Jun 6, 2020

Has anyone fiddled with blck overclocking yet?

eliwankenobi · Jun 7, 2020

Spilly44 said:
I've seen them.
My nephew has the same rig as me bar 3900X and mine a 3950X
and his sound is fine.I even tried setting my 3950X to 3.8 which is def 3900x speed
Tried various mem speeds and different sticks.reset bios to default
All drivers installed and Realtek and Nahmic control consoles installed
Pops and crackles.if you stop music u get a sound like a turbo spooling down from speakers.
All music and speech distorted.Tried toslink to av reciever.No distortion but the odd blip
If the Realtek is the sound chip then what roll does the ESS 9018 dac chip play in the sound?
Annoyed becuae apart from this its a damn good board.The only gripe I have with it which is prob petty is
that you cant turn the sata ports off.
Trying to RMA but msi site just sits there saying loading data please wait

John

Regarding the ESS chip, it only functions as the digital to analog converter. The Realtek chip does the sound processing and interfacing with Windows with the Nahimic software handling the sound features in Windows. Once the Realtek has done its job, sound is sent to the DAC conversion to analog and then the pre-amplification stage where they make use of the “high quality solid state Japanese capacitors”

Speaking of capacitors, the noise and crackling could be result of that analog stage having faulty part.

Spilly44 · Jun 7, 2020

eliwankenobi said:
Regarding the ESS chip, it only functions as the digital to analog converter. The Realtek chip does the sound processing and interfacing with Windows with the Nahimic software handling the sound features in Windows. Once the Realtek has done its job, sound is sent to the DAC conversion to analog and then the pre-amplification stage where they make use of the “high quality solid state Japanese capacitors”

Speaking of capacitors, the noise and crackling could be result of that analog stage having faulty part.

Thanks for the reply.Tried again today but still the same.Have messed with voltages as seems to be showing up as a prob on msi and other X570 boards
Some saying cause by having XMP enabled,Some saying VDDG voltage to low.
Have just tried usb output to my Oppo 105D player and seems ok so may get a usb dac
Awaiting reply from MSI.Would rather use onboard sound

John

eliwankenobi · Jun 7, 2020

MSI MEG X570 Unify Overclocking & Discussion Thread

Spilly44 said:
Thanks for the reply.Tried again today but still the same.Have messed with voltages as seems to be showing up as a prob on msi and other X570 boards
Some saying cause by having XMP enabled,Some saying VDDG voltage to low.
Have just tried usb output to my Oppo 105D player and seems ok so may get a usb dac
Awaiting reply from MSI.Would rather use onboard sound

John

Have you tried going back to “optimized defaults” and test audio that way? You can rule out any system settings interference.

I am using a USB DAC myself as well. You Oppo 105 is a fantastic unit! BTW, it also uses ESS Sabre DAC. But the big brother to the one in the Unify

Spilly44 · Jun 7, 2020

eliwankenobi said:
Have you tried going back to “optimized defaults” and test audio that way? You can rule out any system settings interference.

I am using a USB DAC myself as well. You Oppo 105 is a fantastic unit! BTW, it also uses ESS Sabre DAC. But the big brother to the one in the Unify

Yes have tried defaults.Still the same.
I may closely inspect the board around the Realtek and ESS chip.
Ive modded the Oppo and its good but I have to say on my old rig I preferred the sound of the Pioneer BD-LX91.Now I have a new power amp
i'll re try them.
Going to see whats out there in the way of usb dacs.No glitches at all with usb to Oppo but using toslink connector to old Pioneer SC-LX59
there where odd little blips.

John

edhutner · Jun 7, 2020

Do you have usb devices with external power connected to the usb? Some time ago I found out that external disk enclosure, that had it's own power adapter, were messing with the mother board stability via the usb. I even could not power off the board while this usb device was powered. Removing it fixed all my issues.

So that is why I am asking, may be it could be some strange interference with external devices via the usb return power.

Spilly44 · Jun 7, 2020

edhutner said:
Do you have usb devices with external power connected to the usb? Some time ago I found out that external disk enclosure, that had it's own power adapter, were messing with the mother board stability via the usb. I even could not power off the board while this usb device was powered. Removing it fixed all my issues.

So that is why I am asking, may be it could be some strange interference with external devices via the usb return power.

Hi
Ta for reply
No usb on apart from mouse and Keyboard,1 stick of memory,nvme drive and graphics card
Turned wi fi off as well in case it was that

Magnifying glass and camera out soon
John

ZEEWON · Jun 9, 2020

Hi, I recently built my first pc in a decade. Everything went well & it works perfectly, except for one thing. The top M2 slot runs at half speed or x2. My drive should get around 3.5GB/s read however I end up with around 1.7GB/s instead. And if I check HWiNFO or CrystalDiskInfo it reports to be running at Gen 3 x2 (and shows x4 as maximum capacity). I've tried using it in a slot via the chipset & it delivers full speed no problem. I can find no setting in bios to change this, all other settings are default btw. Has anyone else encountered this is issue and managed to solve it?

Specs of my build:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
MSI Meg X570 Unify
Sabrent 1TB NVMe drive (Gen 3 x4)

I've the latest bios on my motherboard and no other drives installed, just the NVMe.
Also I've tried flashing a previous bios version, it didn't help...

Knud · Jun 10, 2020

ZEEWON said:
Hi, I recently built my first pc in a decade. Everything went well & it works perfectly, except for one thing. The top M2 slot runs at half speed or x2. My drive should get around 3.5GB/s read however I end up with around 1.7GB/s instead. And if I check HWiNFO or CrystalDiskInfo it reports to be running at Gen 3 x2 (and shows x4 as maximum capacity). I've tried using it in a slot via the chipset & it delivers full speed no problem. I can find no setting in bios to change this, all other settings are default btw. Has anyone else encountered this is issue and managed to solve it?

Specs of my build:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
MSI Meg X570 Unify
Sabrent 1TB NVMe drive (Gen 3 x4)

I've the latest bios on my motherboard and no other drives installed, just the NVMe.
Also I've tried flashing a previous bios version, it didn't help...

I ran into a similar issue with my drive as well - I had to manually set the PCI-e speed to Gen 3 for the drive slots. (In the bios)

ZEEWON · Jun 10, 2020

Knud said:
I ran into a similar issue with my drive as well - I had to manually set the PCI-e speed to Gen 3 for the drive slots. (In the bios)

I don't see any setting specifically for the M2 slot. However I've tried switching from Auto to Gen 3 on the following settings: PCI_E1, PCI_E3 & Chipset Gen Switch. Is there a setting I've missed or am I just unlucky?...

Spilly44 · Jun 13, 2020

ZEEWON said:
I don't see any setting specifically for the M2 slot. However I've tried switching from Auto to Gen 3 on the following settings: PCI_E1, PCI_E3 & Chipset Gen Switch. Is there a setting I've missed or am I just unlucky?...

As far as I know there isn't one for the top nvme as it goes straight to the cpu

On a note reg sound problems I have been having.My nephews X570 unify would not start up
It has now but he now has the same sound distortion I have,His front panel audio works ok though

John

jamie1073 · Jun 13, 2020

ZEEWON said:
I don't see any setting specifically for the M2 slot. However I've tried switching from Auto to Gen 3 on the following settings: PCI_E1, PCI_E3 & Chipset Gen Switch. Is there a setting I've missed or am I just unlucky?...

Are you running the latest AMD Drivers for the chipset? I know it does not run off the chipset but who knows if that may cause an issue if they are not there.

Awsan · Jun 13, 2020

Awsan said:
Hey everyone and @Veii

I am going to change my ram but due to my situation this will be a one time thing

When I read what people are saying I see that the Viper steels are the best clockers but when I check the AMD spreadsheet usually the best clockers are the F4-3600C15D-16GTZ.

If I were to get 4x8Gb of either which one would you recommend? (I know we already discussed this and the A2/A0 will be a big gamble) but in this case will getting these B-die Neos be a better option? and how will these time in your opinion? https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232860

Or do you recommend any other good B-dies that are 2x16gb?

Thanks

Anyone?

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