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I have a Seagate BarraCuda 4TB model 5900rpm (ST4000DM005) in the 3.5″. Specs say that it a has workload rating of <55 TB/year. So I've had the drive now for 5years now and it says when using a Seagate drive tools that I've accumulated a "Annualized Workload Rate [Writes + Reads] 78.79/yr.

So what does this mean, should i continue using it or has it outlived it's useful life and should be changed asap. It seems to work fine but the but when it comes to defragging, it seems to take a long time.

It was in this review that the guy said the workload rating of 55 TB/year was a bit low for this drive. Review | Seagate BarraCuda 4TB 3.5″ SATA HDD
 
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It means the drive is made to withstand up to 55 TB of writes every year
With that being said the Barracuda are not all that great nor is 5900 RPM very fast so if you had it for 5 years you should probably consider a new drive

The Ironwolf and Ironwolf Pro are far better drives
Also you should never ever defrag your drive not unless you are trying to lose your data on purpose
 
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Well the 5900rpm is a non issue my OS is not on there. Defragging is good for mechanical HDD I thought, anyway I never had a problem doing so with my data doing so far. I was thinking of getting a WD Black 6TB HDD. But I'm worried that it might be noisy due to the higher RPM, I need this thing to be silent so not sure. The new barracudas are SMR and I don't want that.
 
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Subzero11 said:
Well the 5900rpm is a non issue my OS is not on there. Defragging is good for mechanical HDD I thought, anyway I never had a problem doing so with my data doing so far. I was thinking of getting a WD Black 6TB HDD. But I'm worried that it might be noisy due to the higher RPM, I need this thing to be silent so not sure. The new barracudas are SMR and I don't want that.
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Some of the WD Black models have heads with lubrication so the arms will move back and forth making noise every few seconds and its also another thing that can go wrong and many owners find it annoying

The Ironwolf and Ironwolf Pro dont need lubrication and no its not good for the drives last time i did it i screwed up most of my data and i have neve done it since it also takes ages and i dont have time for that

The non pro Ironwolf is cheaper than the WD Black making it a better deal its cost less its better and its more more quiet and also more reliable since it has no lubrication system
The Ironwolf Pro is more than the WD Black and the non pro Ironwolf but its also better and has a longer warranty

Edit: by the way if you want to buy a drive better buy it now since there might be a hard drive shortage on the way due to Chia mining
 
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Well if its 55 TB per year and it's taken me five years to do 78 TB of use I mean technically my hard drive has very low mileage and could still be good for a few years but does the age actually factor in if it's still only a total of 78 TB.
 
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The numbers of writes has nothing to do with how long a drive can last there are many parts in a HDD like the actuator the platters the circuit board the controller and a ton of other parts and none of them last forever they will wear out over time

The actuator is often what dies first since its a sensitive part and 5 years is pretty long for a Barracuda which like i said are not all that great

Your drive could die this week or it could last another year who knows the point is it WILL die at some point and often you get zero warning the drive just dies and the data cant always be recovered so if you have no backup you have a problem

Even IF the data can be recovered it will often cost a ton of money if you need that data recovered
The standard warranty for a Seagate Barracuda is two years and if you bought the drive 5 years ago it ran out of warranty 3 years ago
 
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Subzero11 said:
okay thanks
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Be careful with mechanical drives, Shilka is right, 5 years is a long time. With SSD's, you are usually 'lucky' in the sense that you will notice their performance degrade while your data is still accessible. For mechanical drives on the other hand, its usually hero to zero from one day to another.
 
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Okay Shilka lets take it from the top. I'm looking for a HDD with at least 6TB and cmr and has to be quiet and 5900 or 7200 doesn't matter to me. My local Micro center has the 6TB Black on special for $159 right now (WDBSLA0060HNC-WRSN) WD6003FZBX with 256 MB and not the 128 MB. Do you have any idea with this info that's it the one with a lubricated arm that make's noise or not ?

You mentioned the standard IronWolf they do have them at MC also but they don't have either the 6 or the 8TB. I'd have to get the 10TB but hat one has helium are those as reliable as the standard air IronWolf one's ? By the way these are marked as NAS. But I'm not building a NAS system it's just to store files on it in my tower and I power off my PC overnight. Thanks
 
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Be careful with mechanical drives, Shilka is right, 5 years is a long time.
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Long time ? Its all about specific model and delivered manufacturing quality relative to life cycle.
RAPTOR HDD made to last 100 Years.

Now do the math of my dual Raptors in RAID, from operating hours in to years.
Either way the major problem here this is that for unknown reason, even WD this is not a producer of high reliability HDD anymore even if they OWN the HOW TO about to make them.



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Subzero11 said:
Okay Shilka lets take it from the top. I'm looking for a HDD with at least 6TB and cmr and has to be quiet and 5900 or 7200 doesn't matter to me. My local Micro center has the 6TB Black on special for $159 right now (WDBSLA0060HNC-WRSN) WD6003FZBX with 256 MB and not the 128 MB. Do you have any idea with this info that's it the one with a lubricated arm that make's noise or not ?

You mentioned the standard IronWolf they do have them at MC also but they don't have either the 6 or the 8TB. I'd have to get the 10TB but hat one has helium are those as reliable as the standard air IronWolf one's ? By the way these are marked as NAS. But I'm not building a NAS system it's just to store files on it in my tower and I power off my PC overnight. Thanks
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Sory i dont know which of the WD black models that use the lubrication system
As for Seagate i have had the 8 and 10 TB Ironwolf Pro which i sold due to them running out of space and right now i have a 12 TB a 14 TB two 16 TB and two 18 TB Ironwolf Pro drives

The 8 and 10 TB are still working perfectly fine despite being from 2017 and 2018 and the other 6 Ironwolf Pro are also working with no problems so i have never had a problem with an Ironwolf Pro

I have only had one non Pro Ironwolf which was a 12 TB and i sold it because it ran out of space not because of a problem so my experience with the non pro is limited to that one 12 TB i had

As for helium all of the drives i have are helium as far as i know and none of them have ever had a problem

With that being said i would not call the Ironwolf Pro drives above 8 TB as being super quiet they are not loud but you can hear them or maybe its because i have 6 of them and it just sounds louder

As for the drives being NAS drives it just means they are better built since they are made to be on 24/7 but you can also use them in a PC that you shut off every evening thats what i have been doing with my drives

Edit: none of the Ironwolf drive uses SMR by the way all of them are CMR drives
 
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shilka said:
The non pro Ironwolf is cheaper than the WD Black making it a better deal its cost less its better and its more more quiet and also more reliable since it has no lubrication system
The Ironwolf Pro is more than the WD Black and the non pro Ironwolf but its also better and has a longer warranty
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Yeah this is why if I ever need mechanical drives in the future, I will be looking at these Ironwolf drives over WD Black drives these days.
 
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This morning they had two IronWolf 10TB, so I thought I'll go this afternoon after work, both already sold out. They still have the Black but I'm not risking it. Guess I'll just wait and keep a eye out.

I think I'm going to get the two IronWolf's 6TB for $150 a piece instead of the 10TB for $279. Not sure why the 6TB only run at 5400rpm instead of the 7200rpm for the higher TB drives but what is odd the 4TB runs at 5900rpm. Oh well maybe it's better this way it will be quiet and it's just for storage anyway.
 
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5900 RPM is the odd speed it has always been either 5400 or 7200 RPM not 5900 which is a newer oddball RPM
5400 RPM might be more quiet but is also going to be slower
 
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I went ahead and got the IronWolf 10TB, they got some in restock. I have it installed and I ran a couple test with seatools and it looks good. So now I'm starting the process of putting my files on it. I did noticed that it is just as quiet as my old 5900rpm drives but when the new drive seeks for something I can hear it. It's a slight vibration sound from the PC case. I'm assuming that's it when it's idling and then suddenly goes to full 7200rpm and that's what causing it, so I'm sure it's normal right ?
 
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You can download hard drive sentinel which is a free program and you can force the drive to always run so you dont get the annoying spin up noise and wait time while it starts
I have my drives always running since i dont want to deal with the noise and wait time

They are NAS drives so they are made to run 24/7 so might as well use it and have them always running
 
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Subzero11 said:
Thanks, the speed diff between this 7200 and my old 5900 are definitely more noticeable might be impossible to ever go back to a 5900 drive now.
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Its not only the RPM as you go up in size the read and write speeds also go up slightly so even if the RPM was the same it would still be slightly faster
But yes once you get used to 7200 RPM you dont want to go back
 
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braincracking said:
Be careful with mechanical drives, Shilka is right, 5 years is a long time. With SSD's, you are usually 'lucky' in the sense that you will notice their performance degrade while your data is still accessible. For mechanical drives on the other hand, its usually hero to zero from one day to another.
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I've had the exact opposite experience. All my HDD's gave me some SMART notice before I allowed them to die (ever increasing numbers of rellocated sectors), my Crucial NVME SATA SSD died without any warning. Even an HDD that had seek problems but no reallocated sectors I managed to get working after it exhibited problems and get the data off it.
 
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